Hey Christians

[timaishu 10+ year member]

Quoting the bible is like quoting a great fiction story, it cant be used in an argument because there isn't any scientific reference behind it.

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[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Yes but like I stated before there are too many religions to choose from there for if one of the choices is even correct you have a higher chance mathematically to fail.. And just because a mass majority picked christianity it makes it the right choice? No.. Most of the so-called christians don't even know about their own religion let alone any of the others... the followed the group

That is true. If I am wrong, I have suffered no less consequence than not believing at all. If religion is indeed like a lottery, you have to play to win. You are chosing not to play simply because you fear the odds are stacked against you. Good luck getting wealthy or going to heaven. Believing you are right against all odds is fundamental to both.

 

[coupe man 10+ year member]

I have explained this. I can try to explain it again step by step if needed.

chill your just to fast for me

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Quoting the bible is like quoting a great fiction story, it cant be used in an argument because there isn't any scientific reference behind it.

I posted this before you even thought about joining a forum.

makes sense...and just to put it out there i have nothing against religion...i myself dont have "faith"... but hay i hope there is a god

Why do you hope?

 

[coupe man 10+ year member]

Sorry, I was generalizing the non-christian side of the debate, my bad

its fine man. i can tell your passionate about this....

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

chill your just to fast for me

This isn't my first or last input on this topic. You don't accumulate 303y27 posts talking about caps or which subs wang the hardest, yo!

 

[Notloud00 10+ year member]

ah yes! I was't sure what side you are on though.

i have no "side". i just like question people's logic and i make decisions that i believe are logical //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

Believe what you want how it makes sense to you. I am one of the few that will admit the foundation for my faith is mathematics. It is a game theory math problem in which the solution requires faith. I belive very strongly in what I know about game theory. Thus, faith is the optimal solution. I don't see why many people contest that so much. I am thinking is it a lack of formal education in math and economics.

well listen, if you can explain this "game theory" to me in a way that it will make me believe in Santa Clause and the easter bunny again and make my christmas and easter fun again i will for sure give this whole jesus, god thing a try too.

you know the only economics in christianity that makes sense to me is that if we get rid of churches and religion most of the poverish areas might get a little wealthier. just about any poverish community ive ever been too all have something in common. usually people dont have money to eat but there are churches every 100 ft and the pastors, preachers, etc are usually driving new cars and have plenty of money.. no matter how poor they are, they are guilted into giving most of their money to the church..... without those churches maybe the cities wouldnt be so poor......

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

i have no "side". i just like question people's logic and i make decisions that i believe are logical //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

IIRC, you either live near me or Loretta Lynn's....so many members from TN I forget

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

what did i say that was all that hateful? i used the word dam n..... i apologize for my vulgar words haha
i figure even christians were smart enough to question a book written by man. i mean it was written by someone you didnt know. i bet if your friend came over right now at told you a story that just happened you would think that story was so exaggerated and you probably wouldnt believe most of it. what makes you think these stories written thousands of years ago arent so unbelievable skewed and exaggerated that who knows if there are any facts in the book. right?

sucks when common sense comes into the argument. do you still believe in the easter bunny and santa clause?

What make you think Christians don't question? I question everyday "why" why is my son retarded? why has my business failed? why am I 38yrs old and losing my house, why would God allow this to happen?

My answer is, I don't know why! I do know the strenght I get from this religion or faith that you (collectively) find so ignorant is what makes me continue everyday with an //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif (with a few exceptions, Bad days:laugh

 

[coupe man 10+ year member]

I posted this before you even thought about joining a forum.


Why do you hope?

let me rephrase.....an afterlife.... not necessarily god

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

well listen, if you can explain this "game theory" to me in a way that it will make me believe in Santa Clause and the easter bunny again and make my christmas and easter fun again i will for sure give this whole jesus, god thing a try too.

Believing in no after life has a payoff of zero.

Belieiving in some form of afterlife has a pay of 1,000,000.

Odds of guessing the right religion: 1 : 1,000,000

HOWEVER, living your life (in your actions) to benefit the world around you has an incalcuable payoff....even if it doesn't get you into heaven. I think I will be content in hell knowing I did the best I could.

you know the only economics in christianity that makes sense to me is that if we get rid of churches and religion most of the poverish areas might get a little wealthier. just about any poverish community ive ever been too all have something in common. usually people dont have money to eat but there are churches every 100 ft and the pastors, preachers, etc are usually driving new cars and have plenty of money.. no matter how poor they are, they are guilted into giving most of their money to the church..... without those churches maybe the cities wouldnt be so poor......

Are you suggesting that the "establishment of the church" is a regressive tax?

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

adio is here

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

its fine man. i can tell your passionate about this....

I try to live, to show what I am in more than words. I am not suprised or upset by anything here. This is a great forum, a great topic, with 2 radically different sides. I do wish we could debate with respect, as shown by Flip. Christianity is my life, and to read some of the words is sad, not the questions of my faith, but the derogatory comments could be left at the door. but I expect no less

Not necessarily pointing directly at you, just in general.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

let me rephrase.....an afterlife.... not necessarily god

What version of an afterlife is godless? I know not one that is conceptually complete.

I believe that an afterlife requires a God...this is where the "grader" comes in. If there were no hope for afterlife, then one is best off commiting ******* after procreation.