hdc312 on a gp3000d-pro

[LuvnThatBass 10+ year member]

although i have never done the big 3 before on any previous installs, i have more significant voltage drop with the opti2000.1d and a visonik4000x Which was not seeing too much more than 2000 watts im sure....

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

you sure that is the crunch pro and not the pzi?

 

[BassAddictJ 5,000+ posts]

your electrical does not need to be upgraded if your voltage stays at 14v.
if that amp really pulls 300A, with a stock electrical at full tilt, you should be NO WHERE NEAR 14V when the bass hits.

hes right..... IMO your amp settings are high because your tryign to make the amp put out power it isnt taking in. That amp with a solid electrical will give you the results that aparently are pretty **** decent from what i hear. make sure it's the pro and not the pzi series. Typically the amp would drain you weak electrical..... usually it just pulls that current until the electrical blows or the amp blows...

reason your voltage drop isnt so bad is because of that amp cant pull the power with that bad ground. scrap that paint man. you want clean barely metal for those terminals. 220amp alt and 2400 in the trunk will be MUCH better for that amp. After you get that alt, the more batteries the better, the more wire the better. get some wood glue and glue that terminal back in there and make sur eit has a good seal. btw what kind of car is this in?

does your HU have a subwoofer level or just bass/mid/trebble? Set you HU at 85% ish volume. Use a 50Hz tone and slowly turn the gain up. as you turn the gain up the thje loudness will plateau, beyound this point it doesnt get much louder and it will distort. you have to find this point to where the sub plays as loud and clear as possible. the sound differance at this plateau is hard to hear. you'll hit this point of most clear bass when you look at how loud it gets vs how much you turn the gain knob. at some point the increase of loudness per amount gain knob increase will drop off. you can hear it in the subs as you continue to turn it up past this point/plateau as the cones do not move as fluidly and efficently.

to answer your other question.....when you clip it it seems to be a little louder, but only by a barely audible amount. Even then it sounds like shit and blows the subs. with a clean signal it wont seem as loud, but once you give that amp the juice it needs...........it'll get loud.

 

[LuvnThatBass 10+ year member]

you sure that is the crunch pro and not the pzi?

haha come on man. i can read!! yeah and its a beast.

 

[LuvnThatBass 10+ year member]

hes right..... IMO your amp settings are high because your tryign to make the amp put out power it isnt taking in. That amp with a solid electrical will give you the results that aparently are pretty **** decent from what i hear. make sure it's the pro and not the pzi series. Typically the amp would drain you weak electrical..... usually it just pulls that current until the electrical blows or the amp blows...
reason your voltage drop isnt so bad is because of that amp cant pull the power with that bad ground. scrap that paint man. you want clean barely metal for those terminals. 220amp alt and 2400 in the trunk will be MUCH better for that amp. After you get that alt, the more batteries the better, the more wire the better. get some wood glue and glue that terminal back in there and make sur eit has a good seal. btw what kind of car is this in?

does your HU have a subwoofer level or just bass/mid/trebble? Set you HU at 85% ish volume. Use a 50Hz tone and slowly turn the gain up. as you turn the gain up the thje loudness will plateau, beyound this point it doesnt get much louder and it will distort. you have to find this point to where the sub plays as loud and clear as possible. the sound differance at this plateau is hard to hear. you'll hit this point of most clear bass when you look at how loud it gets vs how much you turn the gain knob. at some point the increase of loudness per amount gain knob increase will drop off. you can hear it in the subs as you continue to turn it up past this point/plateau as the cones do not move as fluidly and efficently.

to answer your other question.....when you clip it it seems to be a little louder, but only by a barely audible amount. Even then it sounds like shit and blows the subs. with a clean signal it wont seem as loud, but once you give that amp the juice it needs...........it'll get loud.

thanks man that was 100% the most helpful post. it is in a 2000 dodge dakota club cab. head unit just has basic controls, bass/treb. not even mid. haha.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

haha come on man. i can read!! yeah and its a beast.

hey im just saying man, cause i heard a bunch of people got confused on this site before.

would make sense that the POS pzi would cause a lot less stress on the electrical than the pro which would do an actual 3kw

 

[LuvnThatBass 10+ year member]

i think that bassadict is correct in the the fact that my amp is not dropping voltage it cant get...(bad ground)...

 

[LuvnThatBass 10+ year member]

i see in your sig that you got the 15". what vehicle you runnin that in?? is that loud as hell?? you got a bigger alt? if so, where you get it, how much and how big....??

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

i see in your sig that you got the 15". what vehicle you runnin that in?? is that loud as hell?? you got a bigger alt? if so, where you get it, how much and how big....??

explorer sport

yes

yes

http://www.mean-green.com

$392 shipped

220 amps with a stock g65 batt

i still get pretty decent voltage drops from my kx2500.1 at full tilt on some songs. holds up pretty good on most though. i seriously suspect something is amiss about your setup.

 

[LuvnThatBass 10+ year member]

amiss?? if that means bad, then i totally agree. but i will change my ground to something more promising, then i will go from there... i think if the ground is fixed, the amp will be able to get the voltage it is wanting, then i will have SIGNIFICANT voltage drop..i think...remember, this is all a guess. it seems very plausible to me knowing where the ground is located, i thought about it from the get-go, but i needed to get to work.. so i kinda rushed things... if the RCA's or the speaker wires were not hooked up correctly, there would be a whole different set of problems correct?? like actually blown equipment or fuses?? or just not working all together..?

 

[LuvnThatBass 10+ year member]

when do you ever sit in your explorer and have that thing at full volume and not go deaf..??

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

when do you ever sit in your explorer and have that thing at full volume and not go deaf..??

well i really dont like the box it is in right now so on some songs it doesnt bother the ears. 38hz tunings dont work in explorers all too well (at least the 98's). but when you find a peaky song, on full tilt it definitely bothers the ears and gets uncomfortable to listen to for a full song. i usually turn it down about 3/4 of the way through. the bostons pro60's get kind of loud too so that doesnt help.

i also learned not to listen to jimi hendrix full tilt on the bostons. i never realized how ****ing harsh the tweets are until i played rock on them. jesus christ. they work for rap and reggae though, so ill deal. off topic as **** right here lol.

 

[LuvnThatBass 10+ year member]

hes right..... IMO your amp settings are high because your tryign to make the amp put out power it isnt taking in. That amp with a solid electrical will give you the results that aparently are pretty **** decent from what i hear. make sure it's the pro and not the pzi series. Typically the amp would drain you weak electrical..... usually it just pulls that current until the electrical blows or the amp blows...
reason your voltage drop isnt so bad is because of that amp cant pull the power with that bad ground. scrap that paint man. you want clean barely metal for those terminals. 220amp alt and 2400 in the trunk will be MUCH better for that amp. After you get that alt, the more batteries the better, the more wire the better. get some wood glue and glue that terminal back in there and make sur eit has a good seal. btw what kind of car is this in?

does your HU have a subwoofer level or just bass/mid/trebble? Set you HU at 85% ish volume. Use a 50Hz tone and slowly turn the gain up. as you turn the gain up the thje loudness will plateau, beyound this point it doesnt get much louder and it will distort. you have to find this point to where the sub plays as loud and clear as possible. the sound differance at this plateau is hard to hear. you'll hit this point of most clear bass when you look at how loud it gets vs how much you turn the gain knob. at some point the increase of loudness per amount gain knob increase will drop off. you can hear it in the subs as you continue to turn it up past this point/plateau as the cones do not move as fluidly and efficently.

to answer your other question.....when you clip it it seems to be a little louder, but only by a barely audible amount. Even then it sounds like shit and blows the subs. with a clean signal it wont seem as loud, but once you give that amp the juice it needs...........it'll get loud.

ok, so i switched my awful ground directly to the chassis. and pretty much no difference. no voltage drop from a stock 117a alt and a stock battery (its a huge battery tho) did i mention that i did the big 3 with kol 1/0 (equiv to 2/0). i dont understand why my amp is not asking for more power. AHHHHHH WHY WONT MY VOLTAGE DROP!!! haha never thought i would want this to happen.

 

[BassAddictJ 5,000+ posts]

ok, so i switched my awful ground directly to the chassis. and pretty much no difference. no voltage drop from a stock 117a alt and a stock battery (its a huge battery tho) did i mention that i did the big 3 with kol 1/0 (equiv to 2/0). i dont understand why my amp is not asking for more power. AHHHHHH WHY WONT MY VOLTAGE DROP!!! haha never thought i would want this to happen.

weird... make sure all the crimps are on the wires good. wiggle the power/ground wires around and see if they come out of the ring terminals. it's gotta be somewhere not getting a solid connection. also how are the wires going into the amp terminals? if the whole wire in the amp or are there loose ends sticking out of the terminal a lil bit. if so then cut the whole end off, and with a blade strip the seathing off enough and slide the perfect wire carefully into terminals avoiding any kind of loose ends sticking out. recheck that grounding spot man, you want to bolt it to the frame and avoid anywhere that looks lie a piece of metal connected to the frame...you want frame.. the fact that you have a low end (no offense) HU might be a contributing factor. with the low preamp voltage youll have to turn the gain up higher than iff you had more preamp voltage or a line driver.

try testing the rcas by unpluggin one side at a time. if you unplug an rca and the performance is the exact same, then you have a ****ed rca.

possible the sub is wired incorrectly and its running at a higher ohm? maybe even a loose wire on the speaker terminal?

first an formost, UPGRADE THAT ELECTRICAL. whether or not that amp is able to pull the current current...once you make it so that it can pull the current, you;re gonna either blow you stock alty, or blow your amp. you NEED at least another battery in the back by that amp.

there's the remote possibility the amp can sense there's not the current available it needs, and thus doesnt try to pull it...even though these are very new amps that havent been out long, this theory is not likely.

get us pics man. find a friend with a camera and take lots of pics bro

 

[BassAddictJ 5,000+ posts]

find a friend with a digi cam and take us some pics man. this problem is starting to bug me. lol