Happy Birthday Tupac Shakur

[BigDrez 10+ year member]

**** it dude do you ahve this bullshit copy and pasted or something? this shit comes up in every thread where music is discussed we realize your point and your opinion so just leave it short and simple. good ****ing riddance

don't read it then idiot....but thanks for playing...

 

[BigDrez 10+ year member]

because when I laugh and say he isn't the best...people are going to comment with some bullshit asking why....figure I'd get it out of the way early...

 

[TIGERFOR2 10+ year member]

My thoughts:

Tupac is the best of all times. BIGGIE came out when all New York rappers were ******* west coast dack! So he became the best in NY. No disrespect to BIG but its easy to be the best when everyone else was trash. BIG may be in top ten.

Its Dark and Hell, Reasonable Doubt, Illmatic are all better than Ready To Die in my eyes. I saw Biggie at Razels in Springfield Mass a while back. Some kid tried to get on the stage and junior mafia kids were trying to kick him. BIGGIE stop rapping told jr mafia to stop that shat. That dude was a fan of his. Then pulled dude on stage. I respect BIG for that.

 

[Lil Poot 5,000+ posts]

Doesnt matter anyway, biggie killed his ***, then laughed about it and went to tupacs hood. even made a few songs to celebrate it, who shot ya, and goin back to cali. so what can any of you people say about that? besides that it got his big *** killed as well. I know they still play biggie in the clubs and on the radio, and that shit is from the early 90's. Listen to biggies song called "juicy" and try to say he wasnt one of the best rappers ever.

who shot ya was made after the first time pac got shot in new york, not after the vegas shooting.

all this arguing is retarded.

 

[kombat96 10+ year member]

i say long live ELVIS

 

[kombat96 10+ year member]

2pac, biggie, elvis, jfk & hoffa all in the bahama's chillin. we all know that.

 

[noob with an RS 10+ year member]

RIP to the man who died on my bday

lol my birthday tomorrow bro.. HBD

 

[j3bus2k3 5,000+ posts]

I was born on the same day as tupac?! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

 

[noob with an RS 10+ year member]

Here's the thing...picture this right here...you listen to the radio...and you hear a song you really don't like at first...but you hear it again...then you hear it again...over and over until finally it gets stuck in your head and you like it...you've all had that happen before....well you see...the media is like that song on the radio in a sense....so is the public...you hear something over and over and over again until YOU yourself start to believe it without even concidering the value of truth it holds....this is my analogy to 2pac....he portrayed his death through his lyrics for YEAAARSSSSS...then he finally died and the country/world went into a huge uproar sayin' he fakes his death and what not...seeing as how America LOVES controversy people started to pick apart his lyrics and see how he talked about his own murder and death...people were so blinded by the awesome controversy of his music and death that he "suddenly" became the best without people taking the time to concider the truth about it...period...people heard it from all over that he was the best so they themselves started to believe it...because they heard it time and time again...
2pac was and will always be a rap legend...YES...there is absolutely no denying that at all...but the best? hell no...he was extremely talented...his messages were great...he was deep and poetic...and he was "real" as most of you like to say...but how does that make him the best? we are taking about rap here as a lyrical science....Multi's...metaphors...wordplay....2pac displayed only Multi's half of the time...while never having hardly any sense of Metaphors or Wordplay...he may have been the best at getting messages across through his music yes....but does that ONE aspect alone make him the best? listen to yourself...sit there and ask yourself why he is the best...I ask EVERY 2pac fan that...they all give me the same answer or no answer at all...."he was just so deep man...everything he put out there with his music and the messages he gave through it was phenomenal"....well if thats your thing...more power to you...I respect your opinion...but the fact of the matter is....more then HALF of the people who believe 2pac to be the best really only do because thats what they've heard for the past 10 years without taking the time to find out on their own...

If you are a listener and not a writer....your credibility in my opinion is cut in half...if you write you understand the science and the creativity and the awesome talent behind being a TRUE lyricist...(well half of them do)...listeners listen to what THEY believe is good...when really they have no idea what is ACTUAL talent....(again half or more...not all)....

If you ask 70% of writers (speculation from my own experience I can't speak for others around the country) who they believe to be the best emcee of all time....you'll most likely get 1 or 2 answers....Nas or Jay Z....period...

In my personal opinion Jay Z....Nas...Eminem ( yea I said it )...Papoose...Royce Da 5'9''...AZ...BIGGIE....Big Pun...Big L...Rakim....Method Man...Redman...and Andre are ALLLLLLL better then 2pac...but this whole thread is based on opinion...listen to all these artists in their entirety while keeping an open mind...they are all sound...well rounded artists...2pac was 2 dimensional...if his song wasn't portraying a "deep message"...it was about how "gangsta" he was...that is it...he is top 15 material most definitely...but the best? get real...

no one cares about your opinion. you and that one dude behind you supporting your opinion can STFU now. this is 'pac's thread GTFO since its obvious you hate on him being you think you're heros are better rappers... this was a happy birthday thread and u come in here voicing an opinion no one gives two shits about LOL

 

[noob with an RS 10+ year member]

My thoughts:Tupac is the best of all times. BIGGIE came out when all New York rappers were ******* west coast dack! So he became the best in NY. No disrespect to BIG but its easy to be the best when everyone else was trash. BIG may be in top ten.

Its Dark and Hell, Reasonable Doubt, Illmatic are all better than Ready To Die in my eyes. I saw Biggie at Razels in Springfield Mass a while back. Some kid tried to get on the stage and junior mafia kids were trying to kick him. BIGGIE stop rapping told jr mafia to stop that shat. That dude was a fan of his. Then pulled dude on stage. I respect BIG for that.

i agree..

 

[bigwheel15 10+ year member]

Aaw crap, I hope this doesnt turn into another noob with an RS vs. bigdrez about who knows more about rap.

 

[zachzchw 5,000+ posts]

Allstar hasnt been in this one yet?

 

[BigDrez 10+ year member]

Aaw crap, I hope this doesnt turn into another noob with an RS vs. bigdrez about who knows more about rap.

no..I just think it's funny that EVERYONE came in here stating their opinions including him...and he said this was a "birthday" thread...lmao...he just so happened to pick mine to make a comment about...and if he didn't care...he wouldn't have responded...it obviously got to him just that little bit....which is all I wanted...

 

[noob with an RS 10+ year member]

no..I just think it's funny that EVERYONE came in here stating their opinions including him...and he said this was a "birthday" thread...lmao...he just so happened to pick mine to make a comment about...and if he didn't care...he wouldn't have responded...it obviously got to him just that little bit....which is all I wanted...

i wouldntve said anything about your opinion if 239874 others didnt disagree on it... i believe 9512ss said it best..

dude do you ahve this bullshit copy and pasted or something? this shit comes up in every thread where music is discussed we realize your point and your opinion so just leave it short and simple. good ****ing riddance

not only that, you made a list of some whack *** rappers and said theyre better than 2pac and i bet you more than 90% of the members on this board will say 2pa is better than ALL of them, leaving your opinion biased and rare. you even had method man on your list method man is nobody special, he fell off years ago, wtf do u know about whats good and whats not...

 

[saywhat? 5,000+ posts]

I was born on the same day as tupac?! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

dont be so excited, hes just another guy...nothing more.