i Have a 61 mini cooper this was in but now i am buying an eclipse so i have room to up grade. I Have a 10" RE sub and a 1200w mono block sony wplod. Together they are pritty loud. i would sugest it for a small car, someone who doesnt want all base, a beginer, or part of a bigger system. Together they really pound i was thinking $350 shipped for both but it might be able to be lowerd. And depending on wut u have i would concider a trade. If u r interested in one or the other thats cool to. e-mail me for pics i definatly recomend these jescmail@juno.com