Fencing.

[Calikid 5,000+ posts]

actually it very much was a job i loved doing. Now since I didn't break into the country from mexico or russia i can't get into the game again.
ROOFING FTMFW if you aren't american

in roofing

mexicans > crackers

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[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Prices would, wages wouldn't. Just like when the cause for raising the minimum wage is raised. It actually hurts middle-income the most because they shop at fast food and resturants whose employment base is minimum-wage based folks. As the price of produce goes up, so does the price of eating out, etc. I am unsure how it would spill over into, say heavy industry however.


It depends. I don't have much insight into the overhead in produce. If the owners are just pocketing the extra funds ( minimum wage - what they actually pay) then the wages may not increase that much. If the market has much less margin, then prices would increase inversley to that margin. (lower margin would have a higher increase)

I am saying they should not be allowed to do so. It is immoral to exploit, even if the exploited choose to be exploited. It's kind of like a girl who would love to have *** with you, and you tell her to steal something for you and you would. If she does steal and you do have *** with her, that is wrong. Even though she was willingly exploited, it is still wrong.

I'm just quoting the whole thing, too lazy to do it bit by bit //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

On the first point, I think we're pretty much saying the same thing, I think I just worded it wrong..

Second point I can't really say anything on as I know jack shit about that market...just pure speculation on my part.

I see what you're saying on the exploitation...I don't agree with you, but I see what you're saying.

 

[saywhat? 5,000+ posts]

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By the time "Security" gets there, we'll be long gone....

As for the topic......There's no fence that will stop us:up2somet: , seriously, the more advanced the fences are, the smarter we're gonna get. My Mexicans stealing white peoples jobs is teh funny IMO, we're just doing jobs that other don't want to//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif, we don't complain about our salaries, we just deal with it and struggle yet no complains. Most of you have no clue how it is to live in Mexico, I was born in Michoacan, and trust me I went through half the hell my parents went through, Mexico life sucks, jobs are shittier and pay 75% less than if you had the same job here in the U.S.

its not just white peoples jobs dumb****. and the only reason we dont want those jobs is because we have come to realize WE DONT HAVE TO DO THEM! i bet if every mexican left, people would be doing their job, because it has to be done. we dont HAVE TO DO THAT, so we dont.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

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[pwnt by pat 10+ year member]

attack of the oversized logos

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

avatars off, for now

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I'm just quoting the whole thing, too lazy to do it bit by bit //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
On the first point, I think we're pretty much saying the same thing, I think I just worded it wrong..

Second point I can't really say anything on as I know jack shit about that market...just pure speculation on my part.

I see what you're saying on the exploitation...I don't agree with you, but I see what you're saying.

I totally respect all of the above...

For those who don't know, this is called a civilized debate.

 

[SyKo13 5,000+ posts]

its not just white peoples jobs dumb****. and the only reason we dont want those jobs is because we have come to realize WE DONT HAVE TO DO THEM! i bet if every mexican left, people would be doing their job, because it has to be done. we dont HAVE TO DO THAT, so we dont.

I'd seriously pay you $100/bin if you could fill a bin up in an hour in 110+ degree weather....Come down to Thermal, California on June if you're up for it, then see what you have to say after.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

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[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

Minimum wage jobs are good for students trying to make an extra buck. One should'nt expect or demand that minimun wage be enough to raise a family 0f 6 off of. If you decide to keep popping out kids, and don't have the education to find a higher paying job, then basically thats your bad.

Re the fence. They should electrify it. Try to climb that sucker then

 

[SyKo13 5,000+ posts]

Minimum wage jobs are good for students trying to make an extra buck. One should'nt expect or demand that minimun wage be enough to raise a family 0f 6 off of. If you decide to keep popping out kids, and don't have the education to find a higher paying job, then basically thats your bad.
Re the fence. They should electrify it. Try to climb that sucker then

Then we would just run our houses off your electricity lol

But I doubt the government would actually stick a power plant to the floor to just power the fence...

 

[geardownson 10+ year member]

Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.

Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did th e laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part). If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a ha rd-wor king and honest, person, except for well, you know.

And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me.

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[mattf 5,000+ posts]

Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.
Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did th e laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part). If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a ha rd-wor king and honest, person, except for well, you know.

And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me.

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That is exactly what it is like.