Evil-ution

[ahole-ic]

Yeah, but the creation of stars are included in the creation account and thus many people argue against that notion.
IE:

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

The Bible CLEARLY says that earth was created before the stars.

Of course I believe this entire account to be symbolic and just a transcription of handed down oral traditions. I'm arguing against the people that believe it's literal.

Serious question... why does it matter? Are people who believe what you just posted hurting anything in some way? Why attempt to change their minds?

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

Serious question... why does it matter? Are people who believe what you just posted hurting anything in some way? Why attempt to change their minds?

I agree with that post. It does go both ways, pushing your beliefs or non belief onto some one is as retarded as you think the person you argues with you is.

 

[ahole-ic]

Now everyone that thinks your nuts is a troll? Boy you just proved evolution cause by that logic half of the members of the human population would be trolls.

No. You don't know the back story. Those guys troll me anywhere they see me post.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

I also believe it also says in the bible that God's days are much longer then our years. I'm not going to start quoting the bible, it is far to easy to take what it says and create arguments based around it. I could call you a child molester and make parallels to the bible. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book, the bible will prove or disprove anything you want it to including itself.

Granted, but what science proves is that the earth is much older than 6000 years. That's what i'm arguing. Some people don't believe that.

 

[ahole-ic]

I agree with that post. It does go both ways, pushing your beliefs or non belief onto some one is as retarded as you think the person you argues with you is.

Yes.... beliefs. My whole problem with this thread is all of these guys believe they are intellectually superior because they believe in the theory of evolution. They claim religious people to be ignorant and wrong because they can't prove what they say, but evolutionists cannot prove what they say. The logic is just that simple, and they try to use caveats to explain it away, but it can't be. It's a double standard on their part and they refuse to acknowledge it, then calling ME crazy.

 

[MANTI5 10+ year member]

Why are you still talking, ecrack? I proved you a liar and your credibility is shot. You made a claim you could not prove and have chosen to ignore it and ask of others what is being asked of you. You are a hypocrite and your style of argument is that of a madman.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Please show where this has happened. Lol in every thread you've been in, there have been people agreeing with me. I think your bias has you mistaken. I schooled you on Iraq where you could not respond and now you're mad. I get it, but why come in and take cheap shots? It's not making you look better bro.

I couldn't care less about any previous thread. I honestly forgot you existed until you poked your little head in here. I'm just making observations here bro, NO ONE IS ON YOUR SIDE HERE. No one is backing you up. And where was the cheap shot at? Are you scared of being "attacked" again? Poor ecrack, always getting attacked...

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

Granted, but what science proves is that the earth is much older than 6000 years. That's what i'm arguing. Some people don't believe that.

Yes but it also "proved" the world was flat not to long ago. I don't trust any man on this earth to be 100% correct. Until I find a 6000+ year old living in some cave that was here at conception.

 

[MANTI5 10+ year member]

Granted, but what science proves is that the earth is much older than 6000 years. That's what i'm arguing. Some people don't believe that.

The Bible doesn't say the Earth isn't older than 6000 years.

 

[ahole-ic]

Why are you still talking, ecrack? I proved you a liar and your credibility is shot. You made a claim you could not prove and have chosen to ignore it and ask of others what is being asked of you. You are a hypocrite and your style of argument is that of a madman.

No.. you didn't. Not even close.

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqCCRB6sk9M

Pretty much how I feel about the whole subject.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Serious question... why does it matter? Are people who believe what you just posted hurting anything in some way? Why attempt to change their minds?

Technically speaking why doesn't it matter? If everyone was obsessed with science and discovery disease and illness could very well have been eliminated and the earth would be a much much better place. People create these artificial constructs of reality in their mind to make it easier for them to not pursue research to find the truth. It's just laziness. We all know gas guzzlers are bad, but most of us don't go buy electric cars. We all know smoking kills, but lots of people still do it. If I can get one person interested in the truth, it was worth it.

 

[ahole-ic]

I couldn't care less about any previous thread. I honestly forgot you existed until you poked your little head in here. I'm just making observations here bro, NO ONE IS ON YOUR SIDE HERE. No one is backing you up. And where was the cheap shot at? Are you scared of being "attacked" again? Poor ecrack, always getting attacked...

You're the one that brought the previous threads up. You can't reference previous threads and then say you don't care about them. LOL!! Does nobody being on someone's side instantly make them wrong? is someone afraid to be on their own? Someone has to ride the bandwagon and fit in? AWWW. I'm not afraid of being attacked by you. You're always fun.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Yes.... beliefs. My whole problem with this thread is all of these guys believe they are intellectually superior because they believe in the theory of evolution. They claim religious people to be ignorant and wrong because they can't prove what they say, but evolutionists cannot prove what they say. The logic is just that simple, and they try to use caveats to explain it away, but it can't be. It's a double standard on their part and they refuse to acknowledge it, then calling ME crazy.

Please read every post audioholic made about the purpose of science and the expectations of religion(ie: trying to further knowledge and learn vs. believing something blindly). Darwin didn't say "Hey guys, check this shit out...ok, stay with me on this...everything we see evolved from other species! Proof? Nah, I haven't really checked into it, just kinda popped in my head one day and I have no research of any kind that allowed me to come to this conclusion."

 

[MANTI5 10+ year member]

I'll take your lack of evidence as an admittance of defeat, thank you for playing ecrack.