I previously owned a pair of Eclipse 8712.8's, they were stolen from me and since then I have tried several different brands out to see if I can find something just as good or better, so far I've had no luck, nothing I try can perform as well as they did.
My question is- What do you guys think of your Eclipses?
Does anyone have any complaints about them (besides price)?
And how do they compair to other subs you have owned?
Heres a list (in order of ownership) of the subs I've had
2 Pioneer 12inch 303series(diamond plates)
I bought these subs at futureshop for 120bucks each(canadian) and installed them in a dual 1.5cft sealed enclosure. For power I used a Pioneer PRS-X320(400watts rms at 4ohms), I wired the 2 subs at 8ohms(125watts each) and used a Pioneer DEH-46 for a HU. I thought these subs sounded really good, everyone that sat in my car would tell me how awsome my stereo sounded, The 303's had a rich, fat sounding bass that really made my techno and club tunes come alive, frequency response was all the way down to 20hz but would start to die off at around 80hz, so the subs would keep a good rythm going but woundn't hit the higher beats with any real authority. For kicks I entered in a local spl comp and was able to manage 127db with the mic perched on the passenger seat, not bad for a pair of elcheapo subs with 250watts. I tried wiring the subs for a 2ohm mono load (325watts each) to see if I could boost the output, but the subs sounded like they were about to explode so I kept them wired at 8ohms. Overall these are great budget subs.
2 Rockford Fosgate xlc's
I bought these subs at audio wharehouse for 200bucks each(CND$) and powered them with a Pioneer PRS-X720(800watts rms at 4ohms) For a source I used a Sony 750 and I mounted the subs in a dual 1.25cft enclosure and wired the subs for an 8ohm load(200watts each).I wasn't all that impressed with the xlc's, they were smooth and accurate but their output was low and they didn't go down to 20hz and I felt that they didn't have the same impact that the pioneers did, overall they proved to be good sq subs but lacked any real exitement. When I would ask my friends what they thought of of it, they would politely say "It sounds alright" it was obvious that I wasn't impressing anyone. To see how they handled some real power I wired them for a 2ohm load(500watts each), "wow!" was my first thought, the xlc's ate up everylast watt and turned it into rythm, by ear I would guess that they were putting out about 135db as clear as a bell, but rythm is all they put out, they still didn't go down to 20hz and they still didn't have much impact and after a couple hours you could smell the voice coils cooking, best keep the wattage down. Overall I think that these subs would do alright for a "posh" sq system, but will leave serious bass freaks dissapionted.
2 Eclipse 8712.8's
I bought these at Sound Affects for 300bucks each(CDN$) and powered them with the pioneer 720(800watts rms at 4ohms) for a source i used a pioneer deh-730, I used 2 boxes, a 2.6cft common chamber enclosure and a dual 1.25cft enclosure and wired the subs 8 ohm coils parrallel for a 4ohm load(400watts each). With the subs in the 2.6cft box I thought they sounded like ****, sure they hit over 140db's, but they sounded like a foghorn with nasty, resonating bass, so I put them in the dual 1.25 cft box with exellent results. The new box got rid of the nasty resonance and gave the subs some smooth manners, but for the first month they woundl'nt play low but this was due to the spider not being worked in, after the subs were broke in they covered 15 to 100hz with authority. Any type of music I played was powerful and clear, when my friends would sit in my car they wound jump when the bass kicked in and say things like "holy ****" and "wow man", these subs impressed anyone I showed them to. Personally the Eclipses would knock the wind out of my chest and make my heart skip a beat, thats just too cool. The Eclipses would play both rythm and beats at the same time to volume levels beyond 140dbs with crystal clear clarity, both smooth and aggressive with the speed and punch of 10inch subs and the output of 15s. I always got a kick out of how they would make my steering wheel shake violently and bounce my windsheild wipers off the window.
I loved these subs, I thought they were a perfect mix between sq and spl.
But they were stolen so I tried..............
My question is- What do you guys think of your Eclipses?
Does anyone have any complaints about them (besides price)?
And how do they compair to other subs you have owned?
Heres a list (in order of ownership) of the subs I've had
2 Pioneer 12inch 303series(diamond plates)
I bought these subs at futureshop for 120bucks each(canadian) and installed them in a dual 1.5cft sealed enclosure. For power I used a Pioneer PRS-X320(400watts rms at 4ohms), I wired the 2 subs at 8ohms(125watts each) and used a Pioneer DEH-46 for a HU. I thought these subs sounded really good, everyone that sat in my car would tell me how awsome my stereo sounded, The 303's had a rich, fat sounding bass that really made my techno and club tunes come alive, frequency response was all the way down to 20hz but would start to die off at around 80hz, so the subs would keep a good rythm going but woundn't hit the higher beats with any real authority. For kicks I entered in a local spl comp and was able to manage 127db with the mic perched on the passenger seat, not bad for a pair of elcheapo subs with 250watts. I tried wiring the subs for a 2ohm mono load (325watts each) to see if I could boost the output, but the subs sounded like they were about to explode so I kept them wired at 8ohms. Overall these are great budget subs.
2 Rockford Fosgate xlc's
I bought these subs at audio wharehouse for 200bucks each(CND$) and powered them with a Pioneer PRS-X720(800watts rms at 4ohms) For a source I used a Sony 750 and I mounted the subs in a dual 1.25cft enclosure and wired the subs for an 8ohm load(200watts each).I wasn't all that impressed with the xlc's, they were smooth and accurate but their output was low and they didn't go down to 20hz and I felt that they didn't have the same impact that the pioneers did, overall they proved to be good sq subs but lacked any real exitement. When I would ask my friends what they thought of of it, they would politely say "It sounds alright" it was obvious that I wasn't impressing anyone. To see how they handled some real power I wired them for a 2ohm load(500watts each), "wow!" was my first thought, the xlc's ate up everylast watt and turned it into rythm, by ear I would guess that they were putting out about 135db as clear as a bell, but rythm is all they put out, they still didn't go down to 20hz and they still didn't have much impact and after a couple hours you could smell the voice coils cooking, best keep the wattage down. Overall I think that these subs would do alright for a "posh" sq system, but will leave serious bass freaks dissapionted.
2 Eclipse 8712.8's
I bought these at Sound Affects for 300bucks each(CDN$) and powered them with the pioneer 720(800watts rms at 4ohms) for a source i used a pioneer deh-730, I used 2 boxes, a 2.6cft common chamber enclosure and a dual 1.25cft enclosure and wired the subs 8 ohm coils parrallel for a 4ohm load(400watts each). With the subs in the 2.6cft box I thought they sounded like ****, sure they hit over 140db's, but they sounded like a foghorn with nasty, resonating bass, so I put them in the dual 1.25 cft box with exellent results. The new box got rid of the nasty resonance and gave the subs some smooth manners, but for the first month they woundl'nt play low but this was due to the spider not being worked in, after the subs were broke in they covered 15 to 100hz with authority. Any type of music I played was powerful and clear, when my friends would sit in my car they wound jump when the bass kicked in and say things like "holy ****" and "wow man", these subs impressed anyone I showed them to. Personally the Eclipses would knock the wind out of my chest and make my heart skip a beat, thats just too cool. The Eclipses would play both rythm and beats at the same time to volume levels beyond 140dbs with crystal clear clarity, both smooth and aggressive with the speed and punch of 10inch subs and the output of 15s. I always got a kick out of how they would make my steering wheel shake violently and bounce my windsheild wipers off the window.
I loved these subs, I thought they were a perfect mix between sq and spl.
But they were stolen so I tried..............
