Definitive Supercube III

[vpkb1998 10+ year member]

For me, going DIY was a necessity...I couldn't afford $3500 for a set of amplifiers like I wanted, so it was time to heat up the soldering iron //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Likewise for the speakers, I didn't feel like paying $1800 from Cain & Cain.

But I'm nitpicky about appearance...probably to a point where I shouldn't be...

and that's absolutely fine, i've done many diy stuff myself; at least you're not being immature about other people's post

 

[vpkb1998 10+ year member]

no freaking way is that his???? wow hahaha
i dont care how it sounds but if i had that instead of "wows" ill get "hahas" and allot of ear ringing from my freinds LOL even from my girl

ps i can bet money that the def tech will sound cleaner then that monster and probably even louder LOL

yes, and again it has 650 watts, not just peak but RMS

anyway, i just wanted to give my informal review on this little buger, hopefully it would help the next joe decide on a compact sub

 

[Audio Junkies 10+ year member]

For me, going DIY was a necessity...I couldn't afford $3500 for a set of amplifiers like I wanted, so it was time to heat up the soldering iron //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Likewise for the speakers, I didn't feel like paying $1800 from Cain & Cain.

But I'm nitpicky about appearance...probably to a point where I shouldn't be...

Did you build your own amps Jim?

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

ok find me someone who would make a box for about whats left over after buying a 200 watt plate amp and sub and paint to give it roughly 15 coats (which is what def tech usually uses)
will you even have any money left over for a box? some stuff needs to be diy but thats mostly for car audio not home audio no one with a nice house wants some huge ugly thing in their room...

Probably the most ignorant thing I've ever heard on this forum.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Regardless, nice purchase, but anyone who thinks that DIY is worthless for home has no idea as to what they're talking about. There is nothing greater than spending weeks to months on something and then firing it up, and being so pleased not just by the quality, but because you can say that you made it yourself. People who come with the argument that companies who have been around forever must know more don't understand the DIY crowd at all. It is very unlikely that any serious DIYer has far less knowledge than someone at sony throwing together a particle board HTIB.

 

[Mr. C 10+ year member]

here i'll post a picture for him
now what would you guys rather have

the definitve or this pimping one?

i would hate for a girl to be engaged with this guy, why get her a diamond when you have rhine stones, sparkle the same

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rotflol.gif.b453361716769b8110ddefc85ff03cd2.gif :rotflol: WTF?????? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rotflol.gif.b453361716769b8110ddefc85ff03cd2.gif :rotflol:

I'll never believe THAT can sound as good and as clean as a Supercube III.

Very nice choice in sub. DBB needs to get a clue.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

no freaking way is that his???? wow hahaha
i dont care how it sounds but if i had that instead of "wows" ill get "hahas" and allot of ear ringing from my freinds LOL even from my girl

ps i can bet money that the def tech will sound cleaner then that monster and probably even louder LOL

I'm the last person to agree with DBB, and I'll even say this. The way you're acting makes you seem shallow as all get out. You buy a definitive subwoofer for the sound and the looks, yes? No, you are only buying it for the looks. It's the science behind it that makes it important. If you can understand how to get the results from something expensive, making it look nice and fancy is the least of your concerns. If you can do both, then great. But if all you think of is "I don't care how it sounds, it needs to look good", then you don't actually appreciate the sound. Until you know what's going on behind the expensive lacquer, the finish is 5% of the deal.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

I'm the last person to agree with DBB, and I'll even say this. The way you're acting makes you seem shallow as all get out. You buy a definitive subwoofer for the sound and the looks, yes? No, you are only buying it for the looks. It's the science behind it that makes it important. If you can understand how to get the results from something expensive, making it look nice and fancy is the least of your concerns. If you can do both, then great. But if all you think of is "I don't care how it sounds, it needs to look good", then you don't actually appreciate the sound. Until you know what's going on behind the expensive lacquer, the finish is 5% of the deal.

Sound and looks are important. Period. If both weren't important, then these top shelf people wouldn't have to go to such great lengths in design in order to stand out enough to make sales. To a person with the tools and know-how it will never seem worth it. But to nearly everyone else out in the "real world" who could care less about running a table saw, but loves great sound. Then buying a def tech, ML, "insert top shelf boner" is worth it. You have a common problem with your thinking. You get a kick out of DIY and plyaying with tools and proving your ability. The rest of the world doesn't give 2 shits about that aspect. Honestly thats the cold truth. If that wasn't the truth, then half these companies would be out of business.

To further correct you. Finsih is so much more than 5% of the deal. If you believe this then excuse me for saying you're still wet behind the ears and full of stupid. I don't care how good you make something sounds, it won't sell if it looks like a turd sitting in peoples living rooms. Finsih and performance is actually a much more even 50/50 compromise in the rest of the world outside your brain.

Your old attempts at home speakers prove my point. I don't care how good those things sounded, I would be embarassed to have them in any of my rooms here.

 

[1loudsuv 10+ year member]

Probably the most ignorant thing I've ever heard on this forum.

well find me a car audio company that makes at least something that sounds decent without you doing any work to install it in your car(other then you connecting 2-4 wires)? diy is a must if you want good sound in a car (kickpods custom sub boxes) but not in home audio.

but like i said if you think you know more then i do well prove it. show me some of your stats for car audio and some for home audio. heres some of my car audio and some of my home stuff is in my sig.

http://www.termpro.com/asp/competitorstats.asp?Competitor_ID=17254&Season=0

you where still wearing diapers when i was competing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[1loudsuv 10+ year member]

Regardless, nice purchase, but anyone who thinks that DIY is worthless for home has no idea as to what they're talking about. There is nothing greater than spending weeks to months on something and then firing it up, and being so pleased not just by the quality, but because you can say that you made it yourself. People who come with the argument that companies who have been around forever must know more don't understand the DIY crowd at all. It is very unlikely that any serious DIYer has far less knowledge than someone at sony throwing together a particle board HTIB.

we are not talking about sony... we are. talking higher end stuff here..

but yah your right some diy can do a better job then a company. im sure with my experience (built over 40 boxes for my truck) i can come out with something as good if not better then some companys,

but com'on your still wet behind the ears and ive seen DBB boxes they are not pretty. i bet i am not the first to tell you but you got allot to learn and a bunch of you kids think you know it all.

btw if companys **** then who makes your speakers? you do?

 

[vpkb1998 10+ year member]

to me, although i've done some diy stuff, i'm no diy enthusiast by any means, just doing it out of neccessity

i've spent hundreds on tools and have yet to produce a somewhat satisfiable result

back to this supercube III, the sound quality is superb, i've even went back to the stores and audition some 10's and 12's within the same price range (klipsch, jbl, boston acoustic), they're no where near the quality of this one; most are just muddy

it may not have the SPL, but it definitely has the punch

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I am just going to throw this into the mix. This is what I have come to find true.

DIY in home audio is fine. But, I have never heard a DIY system that sounds as good as a B&W system (enter THY to show me that i'm wrong).

Some people have the 'gift' of speaker building. But most don't. So, most of us who want a GREAT sound and don't have the time or money to experiment go out and buy something that fits our ears and our budgets. I have argued with many people, good old NG for one, about the benefits of using a sub system from a company or a home build one. I think the professional ones are better, for various reasons. But, that is AUDIO. We all can have our different opinions to what sounds good. There is not magic speaker, box, or type of system. I am very happy with my MartinLogan Dynamo, and I think he will be very happy with that subwoofer. More so than if he was to DIY something. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Did you build your own amps Jim?

Yup. Found the plans in a back issue of Vaccum Tube Valley, an online mag for fellow tube dweebs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif I don't know of any commercial version using the SV811 tube, maybe in Japan but definitely not in the States. To go pre-built and still get 8 watts out I would have been looking at 300B triodes, easily in the $3k range for a pair of monoblocks.

Preamp wasn't homebuilt, just because it's a royal PITA to homebrew a quiet phono stage, and I found a really good local deal on it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fro.gif.c695f1f814b01c4ad99fe7f8cccadd29.gif

 

[Audio Junkies 10+ year member]

Yup. Found the plans in a back issue of Vaccum Tube Valley, an online mag for fellow tube dweebs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif I don't know of any commercial version using the SV811 tube, maybe in Japan but definitely not in the States. To go pre-built and still get 8 watts out I would have been looking at 300B triodes, easily in the $3k range for a pair of monoblocks.
Preamp wasn't homebuilt, just because it's a royal PITA to homebrew a quiet phono stage, and I found a really good local deal on it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fro.gif.c695f1f814b01c4ad99fe7f8cccadd29.gif

****, cool stuff! I'm digging through all the threads over at diy audio trying to find some good plans for a powerful 2-channel amp (200+ watts per channel). It will be a big project, but I've got the itch to build one.

If you know anywhere else that is a good resource for diy amps, please let me know.