Deaf Bonce db418 or PSI Platform 4 18???

[disturbed471985 5,000+ posts]

Team sundown coil is 4"wide 4" long monster

talking bout the bounce

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I love my sundown nightshades. They handle 3k plus daily. Nsv3 will have the most linear excursion. The motor is deeeep. The coil is 3" long.


Nsv3 coil next to team sundown coil

That's insane! Holy moly

 

[dbjunior 10+ year member]

Pierce audio 6k is a beast but two 15" 2k would be better and cheaper.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

DD 9918

Could be a grand if the dealers good.

 

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I love my sundown nightshades. They handle 3k plus daily. Nsv3 will have the most linear excursion. The motor is deeeep. The coil is 3" long.


Nsv3 coil next to team sundown coil

So that's why the efficency ***** and they need 10k per

 

[trust fund baby]

DD 9918Could be a grand if the dealers good.

 

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So that's why the efficency ***** and they need 10k per

jist talked to jassa (lives down the street from me) next time youre in town he said hed let you blow him. figired youd jump at the chance

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

jist talked to jassa (lives down the street from me) next time youre in town he said hed let you blow him. figired youd jump at the chance

huh? lol

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

[quote name='Massive spl']What vehicle... You might do a 150db... A single woofer in a vehicle is kinda hard to do 150+... I'd rather have 4 12s then 1 18"[/QUOTE]

4 12's would be twice the cone area. Yeah. Any other reasoning?

[quote name='Popwarhomie']I'd rather have 8 2.5" coil 12s than 2 100 pound 4" coil monster 18s...


Lol[/QUOTE]

Really? Why?

Space is limited for me, so I'd rather have a couple monsters

[quote name='Massive spl']I love my sundown nightshades. They handle 3k plus daily. Nsv3 will have the most linear excursion. The motor is deeeep. The coil is 3" long.



Nsv3 coil next to team sundown coil[/QUOTE]

:yumyum:

Part of me still wants Sundown Team subs.....

I think 3 or 4 18's would get nasty in a 4th in my truck
@LosIsATool; I don't care if efficiency is awful, lol. I've got power to spare :viking2:

 

[Massive spl]

[quote name='adulbrich']4 12's would be twice the cone area. Yeah. Any other reasoning?



Really? Why?

Space is limited for me, so I'd rather have a couple monsters



:yumyum:

Part of me still wants Sundown Team subs.....

I think 3 or 4 18's would get nasty in a 4th in my truck
@LosIsATool; I don't care if efficiency is awful, lol. I've got power to spare :viking2:[/QUOTE]



4 12s is more cone area,more coil to displace heat, prly more motor force depending on woofers. Should just be better over all.

 

[trust fund baby]

jist talked to jassa (lives down the street from me) next time youre in town he said hed let you blow him. figired youd jump at the chance

jassa owns dd.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

4 12s is more cone area,more coil to displace heat, prly more motor force depending on woofers. Should just be better over all.

Is that really fair though since the cone area is doubled? More coil and motor force makes sense, but 4 12's would require more space than 1 18.

To be more fair, they should be compared to 2 18's. They've got about the same cone area and will need roughly the same volume

I'd rather have two 4" coil 18's than 4 2.5" coil 12's

 

[Massive spl]

4 12s will do nicely in 8cubes common chamber box. Single 18" will do nicely in 8cubes. But the only reason we are talking about 4 12s > 1 18 is because the OP is taking about going from 4 12s to 1 18.

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

[quote name='adulbrich']4 12's would be twice the cone area. Yeah. Any other reasoning?



Really? Why?

Space is limited for me, so I'd rather have a couple monsters



:yumyum:

Part of me still wants Sundown Team subs.....

I think 3 or 4 18's would get nasty in a 4th in my truck
@LosIsATool; I don't care if efficiency is awful, lol. I've got power to spare :viking2:[/QUOTE]

I like my 8 12 setup way better than my custom shd/team sundown 18s. Cone area wins. How are you limited on space? In put 2 21"s in a focus coupe... You can't say you have limited space lol

 

[The_Quiet_One 10+ year member]

[quote name='adulbrich']4 12's would be twice the cone area. Yeah. Any other reasoning?



Really? Why?

Space is limited for me, so I'd rather have a couple monsters



:yumyum:

Part of me still wants Sundown Team subs.....

I think 3 or 4 18's would get nasty in a 4th in my truck
@LosIsATool; I don't care if efficiency is awful, lol. I've got power to spare :viking2:[/QUOTE]

A larger quantity of subs on the same power have lower power compression and likely will have more motor force per cone area. The higher motor force brings down QES so you can maybe save a bit of volume on the enclosure for the same cone area if you're looking for a consistent output through a fairly large bandwidth (assuming the other parameters and your cars cabin gain line up for the target application as well). On the down side you have more cancellation issues, a larger probability of having a sub fail, and the fact its more a PITA to track down potential quirky issues with the enclosure deign.

I personally prefer single or dual setups since I don't ever run gobs and gobs of power. In the end theory and math only goes so far (especially for car audio!) and real world results will inevitably not line up. No matter your end goal in car audio, it's going to take experience, experimentation, and occasionally a small amount of luck to see those goals through.

OP no chance for dual 15 setup?

 

[wew lad 5,000+ posts]

why spend that much on a sub and put it on such a meh amp?

 

[dbjunior 10+ year member]

With $1000 budget and 8-9 cu to work with I would run 2 quality 15's. I'd look at running a little more power than 3k though. With a solid electrical a good 5k at .5ohm would be great for daily or run a Brazilian 8k at rated ohm load. Look into the pierce audio 2k series 15's 4 layer 4in coil upgradable to 8 layer of you want to run more power than a 5k.