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[Old_Slapper]

Is Biden a believer in the "Big Lie?" He should be ashamed of himself!

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

And it appears you have not done any research.

I've done plenty of research on gas prices. Ask all the people who tried to tell me that I didn't pay less for gas under Obama then I did under Trump. They were quickly proven wrong when I linked them to my research. Keep believing whatever Trump says and don't do any research on your own. That's what most Republicans do these days. "If Trump said it it must be true." "It's all Biden's fault." Those are the current cries of the Republican party.

 

[Old_Slapper]

1. What lies did Biden tell about the virus? Please provide video proof oh him saying it.

2. Vaccine - Trump was responsible for and takes credit for the vaccine. Nobody was "forced" to take it. They weren't held down against their will and given a shot.

3. Please provide proof of how many people died because of the vaccine. Over 1,100,000 people died because of COVID.

4. If the lockdown was unnecessary then why was almost every country in the World locked down?

5. How many deaths were directly caused by people who lost their jobs? I think you answered your own question. Those cases were a product of their mental health.

Lockdowns aren't a new thing. They've happened before during a pandemic situation.

Okay, Rob. I've answered these questions multiple times, but I guess, at your age, you might be slipping. LOL...

1. The internet is riddled with videos of Biden lieing about the virus, but here's one.
2. Yes, Trump pushed hard to have the vaccine available ASAP. Are you saying to don't remember all the people who lost their job because they didn't get vaccinated? Now, you're probably going to look for a way to not blame Biden for this, so I'll wait for you to ask for proof before I slap you with it.
3. I'll do one better. I'll give you the proof of conditions caused by the vaccine then show you a video where Biden says the vaccine is perfectly safe. - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html - . / You stated 1,100,000 people died from COVID. Show me proof that they actually died from COVID. Remember, I gave you the answer to his a while back.
4. Simple, the leaders were control freaks. It was already proven to be ineffective. Look at all the states that didn't lockdown. There's your proof! There were no increases in "deaths," their economy was still good, and their citizens were much happier.
5. So we should just ignore the reasons why they committed ******* and just choke it up as them having a mental issue? Should we do the same for people who commit ******* because they are being misgendered?
6. When you stated lockdowns aren't a new thing, it was a good thing I wasn't drinking coffee at the time I read that. The USA has never had a lockdown.

Here's some bonus questions for you.

1. Tell me what the requirements were to diagnose a death as being causes by COVID?
2. How many times does Biden tell us to listen to Fauci and follow his instructions?
3. How many times does Fauci say the vaccine prevents us from getting the virus?

 

[Old_Slapper]

I've done plenty of research on gas prices. Asked all the people who tried to tell me that I didn't pay less for gas under Obama then I did under Trump. They were quickly proven wrong when I linked them to my research. Keep believing whatever Trump says and don't do any research on your own. That's what most Republicans do these days. "If Trump said it it must be true." "It's all Biden's fault." Those are the current cries of the Republican party.

It depends on what state you're in.

The only research you did was the research to that would lean the direction you want it to. Try a little common sense. That will lead you in the right direction.

Also, in 2016, it was election year. Have you ever noticed how, under a democrat, gas prices go down when it's an election year?

Explain this one:
Under Trump, gas prices never reached nearly as high as they were under Obama and Biden. Why is that?

 

[Old_Slapper]

the immigrants coming through the border here have money to pay the cartels 5000$ per head just to travel through Mexico. No one rides for free. The cartels are the ones profiting big on our immigration policies. We also don’t really get the immigrants that just want a better life and a good job. We get the immigrants who can already afford to pay the cartels. The poorest people in these countries are stuck there and can’t even think about getting to America.. Most Americans couldn’t afford getting through Mexico without becoming a cartel slave to pay off the debt. It’s funny how benevolent caring liberals somehow screw over the poorest people, even in foreign countries, while spewing their BS about how they are the moral majority.

The ones that don't have the money end up working for the cartels. They are all marked so the cartels know how much they owe.

Also, you notice how so many of them have nicer clothing than we do and all have very large cell phones? People who are struggling and getting abused by their government don't have these things.

 

[Old_Slapper]

Just letting you guys know that a lot of illegals have Socials and Driver's Licenses. It's also not the employer's responsibility to investigate every Social Security or Driver's License number. A lot of illegals also pay taxes just like everybody else. What they don't do is file a tax return. That means they don't get a refund and all of that tax money stays in the economy. Our company had over 150 employees and I've seen a lot of shi* in my day. I can probably answer some questions from the employer side if you guys have any. A lot of employers hire illegals unknowingly because their paperwork comes back clean. It happens. Don't be naive.

Naive is the person hiring someone, with false paperwork, when they really want to make sure their employees are legit. I live in California. It's no secret that we house a large percentage of illegals. By your theory, California should be doing quite well. California has over a $30 billion deficit. Someone is doing their math wrong.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

It depends on what state you're in.

The only research you did was the research to that would lean the direction you want it to. Try a little common sense. That will lead you in the right direction.

Also, in 2016, it was election year. Have you ever noticed how, under a democrat, gas prices go down when it's an election year?

Explain this one:
Under Trump, gas prices never reached nearly as high as they were under Obama and Biden. Why is that?

Obama had to take over a crappy economy that Bush Jr. left him. Biden had to open the country after a pandemic. The United States was locked down during The Spanish Flu. It wasn't technically called a lockdown at the time. They tried to open up too soon and had to shut down again. Why did Trump get the vaccine if it's so unsafe? You know that Trumps gas prices were a product of the pandemic. Let's be real. You can't pick and choose what CDC data you choose to believe. Trump also said the virus would disappear. Are you ok with that? How many Stayes didn't lockdown? 1 or 2?

 

[Old_Slapper]

Obama had to take over a crappy economy that Bush Jr. left him. Biden had to open the country after a pandemic. The United States was locked down during The Spanish Flu. It wasn't technically called a lockdown at the time. They tried to open up too soon and had to shut down again. Why did Trump get the vaccine if it's so unsafe? You know that Trumps gas prices were a product of the pandemic. Let's be real. You can't pick and choose what CDC data you choose to believe. Trump also said the virus would disappear. Are you ok with that? How many Stayes didn't lockdown? 1 or 2?

Sorry, try again. The only time the US demanded a locked down was during COVID. That's right, your guy did that. Good job! Only certain cities locked down during the Spanish flu. It was not something the President, or states, was forcing on the people.

Trump took the vaccine because he wanted to. That's the entire point! HE WANTED TO!!! The vaccine was NOT completely safe, as your guy stated it was. BUT, millions of people were forced to take this drug.

So, here are some more bonus questions for you:

1. If you are so supportive of what science proves, why does Biden say the vaccine is better than natural immunity?
2. Why don't you support the "My body, my choice" movement when it comes to the vaccine? Don't we have a right to refuse something, that has not been properly tested, into or bodies and has also been found to have fatal or permanent side effects?
3. Why do you find Trump's comment "the virus will go away" more dangerous than Biden telling us that the vaccine, which can have fatal or permanent side effects, will prevent us from getting COVID? Trump wasn't forcing us to gamble with our lives.

 

[Old_Slapper]

So,
Here is Rob's argument on Trump's COVID lie being dangerous compared to Biden's lie. What funny is, Biden said the exact same thing by saying "I will shut down COVID."

Trump's lie:

• COVID will go away. We all knew he was referring to the "Fear of COVID" because we all know that no disease will ever go away. Big whoop!

Biden's lie:

• "The vaccine is completely safe." Many have died from it or contracted a serious side affect.
• "I will shut down COVID." Isn't this pretty much what Trump said, but stating he will actually defeat it?
• "If you get vaccinated, you won't get COVID." New studies show more vaccinated people are getting COVID than un vax'ed people. Oh, and here's the study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10482361/
• "If you are vax'ed, you don't need to wear masks." Then why was he still demanding people to wear masks even after being vax'ed?
• "We ended cancer as we know it." I don't need to explain how asinine this statement is. I'm sure you want proof of him saying this, so here you go:

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Sorry, try again. The only time the US demanded a locked down was during COVID. That's right, your guy did that. Good job! Only certain cities locked down during the Spanish flu. It was not something the President, or states, was forcing on the people.

Trump took the vaccine because he wanted to. That's the entire point! HE WANTED TO!!! The vaccine was NOT completely safe, as your guy stated it was. BUT, millions of people were forced to take this drug.

So, here are some more bonus questions for you:

1. If you are so supportive of what science proves, why does Biden say the vaccine is better than natural immunity?
2. Why don't you support the "My body, my choice" movement when it comes to the vaccine? Don't we have a right to refuse something, that has not been properly tested, into or bodies and has also been found to have fatal or permanent side effects?
3. Why do you find Trump's comment "the virus will go away" more dangerous than Biden telling us that the vaccine, which can have fatal or permanent side effects, will prevent us from getting COVID? Trump wasn't forcing us to gamble with our lives.

The vaccine is better and faster than natural immunity. I do support "my body my choice." There are consequences to choices. If somebody chose not to get vaccinated then they were potentially affecting the lives of the people they work with. The lockdown happened under your man Trump. Biden got us out of the lockdown. Trump also gave everybody checks. We were also told to wipe our *** with coffee filters under Trump. Trump cost a lot of Americans their lives because they believed his nonsense. Haven't you heard the stories a out people who were dying and asking for the vaccine? Exactly how many people have died from getting the vaccine? I bet it's a lot less than 1.1 million.

 

[Old_Slapper]

The vaccine is better and faster than natural immunity. I do support "my body my choice." There are consequences to choices. If somebody chose not to get vaccinated then they were potentially affecting the lives of the people they work with. The lockdown happened under your man Trump. Biden got us out of the lockdown. Trump also gave everybody checks. We were also told to wipe our *** with coffee filters under Trump. Trump cost a lot of Americans their lives because they believed his nonsense. Haven't you heard the stories a out people who were dying and asking for the vaccine? Exactly how many people have died from getting the vaccine? I bet it's a lot less than 1.1 million.

You have absolutely have no idea how a vaccine works. The guy who claims to be all about research, science, and facts, has no idea what or how a vaccine works. LOL... vaccine works faster than natural immunity.

Hey Rob...
How long does it take for the vaccine to work? At least two weeks.
How long does it take for your body to fight the virus? At least two weeks.
So, which one works faster?

Show me proof Trump us to wipe with coffee filters?

So, we should applaud Biden for getting out of a lockdown that he and his fallowers put us in? Thank you, Biden, for pulling us out of a hell that you put us in.

If you remember Rob, Biden gave us checks also.

And how did Trump cost Americans lives? Did he tell us to not take the vaccine, which hasn't proved to save any lives. Now he didn't. He actually took the vaccine, himself. You even just posted that.

1.1 million did not die from COVID. They died during COVID. Didn't you research what I sent you? Research what criteria a person had to meet to be reported as a COVID death. Did you know most of the bodies never had a COVID test performed to show the actual cause of death?

Maybe that's what Biden meant by beating cancer. All cancer deaths were reported as COVID deaths, so there were no more cancer deaths.

 

[Old_Slapper]

By the way, Rob. I was 2nd in charge of our COVID Response Team for our City. There is nothing you can say, that is factual, that will justify any of Biden's fear tactics. They were all proven to be false. Just admit it!

Your one lie, from Trump, is far overshadowed by the truths he said about COVID and the lies that Biden said about COVID.

And again, the states that DID NOT Shut down, did not disappear and did better than the states that did shut down. AND, I believe there were 7 states that stayed open.

Bonus questions:

1. How many democrats left the democrat party over the last 8 years?
2. How many republicans left the republican part over the last 8 years?
3. Did you know that over a million people have switched over to the republican party over the last few years?
4. Last question: Why have you not answered any of my bonus questions?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Trump cost a lot of Americans their lives because they believed his nonsense

What nonsense exactly?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The vaccine is better and faster than natural immunity

Vaccination or Acquired Immunity. Which is Better?

The question of the protection afforded by COVID infection vs. the immunity conferred by the mRNA vaccines is still unsettled. A new study may put our concerns to rest. Spoiler alert: each form of immunity has its strengths.

www.acsh.org

Again do even just a little research so you know what you're saying

 

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