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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Speak to the first batch of lies, one by one, and then speak to this batch,
Disprove the explanation of how they are are lie, one by one.
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So you are unable to post your facts that support your claim. You literally are being told that these are lies Trump said and you are accepting them as fact because the left said so.

I think you know what I think of you at this point.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope it's you...you leaning hard on "fact" from a very biased source...but it fits your narrative so it's gotta be true...

The US government is the "biased source" of the facts that prove Trump wrong?
So, every statistic ever recorded and now being used to counter his lies is "faked"? If ithat is the case, then whenever he mentions a statistic that favors him, he is telling a lie. Nioce Catch-22 you created for him.
It makes him a liar no matter WHAT he says.
Or is it only the facts that counter his lies that are faked, and the rest are real?

Those are questions I would like an answer to.
Support your claim. Explain to us how the wall got built (per his claim) when only 1/10 of the planned length was actually done.

Is the actual amount that was built a lie, or is Trump's claim that the whole wall was built a lie?
It can't be both.
Tell us which is the lie.

So you are unable to post your facts that support your claim. You literally are being told that these are lies Trump said and you are accepting them as fact because the left said so.

I think you know what I think of you at this point.

Ahhhh, you get the lies plus the proof that they are lies that you asked for, and now you flit off onto a tangent becasue you can't dispute them.
How typical.
Right-wing, KoolAid drinking, brainwashed, apologist, sycophant.
The moment your bullsh*t beliefs and opinions get challenged in the least, you simply fall apart.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The US government is the "biased source" of the facts that prove Trump wrong?
So, every statistic ever recorded and now being used to counter his lies is "faked"?
Or, is it only the facts that counter his lies that are faked, and the rest are real?

Those are questions I would like an answer to.
Support your claim. Explain to us how the wall got built (per his claim) when only 1/10 of the planned length was actually done.

Is the actual amount that was built a lie, or is Trump's claim that the whole wall was built a lie?
It can't be both.
Tell us which is the lie.

Ahhhh, you get the lies plus the proof that they are lies that you asked for, and now you flit off onto a tangent becasue you can't dispute them.
How typical.
Right-wing, KoolAid drinking, brainwashed, apologist, sycophant.
The moment your bullsh*t beliefs and opinions get challenged in the least, you simply fall apart.

I asked for YOUR proof, not the proof a left leaning biased source of information told you is proof. You're a clown. You just believe them because you are weak minded, because you were told to hate Trump, because you need to feel like a winner. You already know you are a loser and that you are doing everything in your power to feel that you are not. You're a weasel and a traitor.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The US government is the "biased source" of the facts that prove Trump wrong?
So, every statistic ever recorded and now being used to counter his lies is "faked"? If ithat is the case, then whenever he mentions a statistic that favors him, he is telling a lie. Nioce Catch-22 you created for him.
It makes him a liar no matter WHAT he says.
Or is it only the facts that counter his lies that are faked, and the rest are real?

Trump lowers the cost of Insulin... TRUMP did that. Biden reverses that then later lowers it back to where Trump already had it and claims HE did that. That is bullshit and you follow these assclowns no questions asked. Were you upset when Trump did it first? I bet you were mad... then Biden did the same thing and I bet you shed tears of joy.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The US government is the "biased source" of the facts that prove Trump wrong?

So you the facts you posted are from a government website?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Trump lowers the cost of Insulin... TRUMP did that. Biden reverses that then later lowers it back to where Trump already had it and claims HE did that. That is bullshit and you follow these assclowns no questions asked. Were you upset when Trump did it first? I bet you were mad... then Biden did the same thing and I bet you shed tears of joy.

This has nothing to do with you showing us that the list of lies Trump told is is somehow "biased" and faked by the liberal left.
Simply another strawman tangent to avoid speaking directly to, and supporting your claims that the words he has spoken are not lies.

As for insulin, it looks like Trump allowed prices to rise dramatically for 3/4 of his term before "fixing it", and they have only decreased under Biden.
As of March 2023, Lilly capped out-of-pocket costs at $35. This is a lot lower than the average $275-$800/month that people used to pay under Trump (average of 1-3 vials per month).
Now, tell me how Biden is making inulin MORE expensive?

In fact, it looks like the Republicans are the ones who didn't like price controls for insulin:

You should do your research before making claims that will later backfire on you.

So you the facts you posted are from a government website?

The statistics and proofs are. Does that confuse you?
Answer the wall question.
"I took the money out, we built 571 miles of border wall, and that's what made our border so good."
That is twice the length of the Grand Canyon.

Please prove 571 miles of new border wall were built under Trump, as he has claimed.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

This has nothing to do with you showing us that the list of lies Trump told is is somehow "biased" and faked by the liberal left.
Simply another strawman tangent to avoid speaking directly to, and supporting your claims that the words he has spoken are not lies.

As for insulin, it looks like Trump allowed prices to rise dramatically for 3/4 of his term before "fixing it", and they have only decreased under Biden.
As of March 2023, Lilly capped out-of-pocket costs at $35. This is a lot lower than the average $275-$800/month that people used to pay under Trump (average of 1-3 vials per month).
Now, tell me how Biden is making inulin MORE expensive?
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In fact, it looks like the Republicans are the ones who didn't like price controls for insulin:
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You should do your research before making claims that will later backfire on you.


The statistics and proofs are. Does that confuse you?
Answer the wall question.
"I took the money out, we built 571 miles of border wall, and that's what made our border so good."
That is twice the length of the Grand Canyon.

Please prove 571 miles of new border wall were built under Trump, as he has claimed.

Seriously, shut up liar.

Provide proof that he lied and give us YOUR proof of these lies.

Also:

Link to information below.

"Today, under President Trump’s leadership, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced that over 1,750 standalone Medicare Part D prescription drug plans and Medicare Advantage plans with prescription drug coverage have applied to offer lower insulin costs through the Part D Senior Savings Model for the 2021 plan year. Across the nation, participating enhanced Part D prescription drug plans will provide Medicare beneficiaries access to a broad set of insulins at a maximum $35 copay for a month’s supply, from the beginning of the year through the Part D coverage gap. The model follows on the Trump Administration’s previously announced 13.5 percent decline in the average monthly basic Part D premium since 2017 to the lowest level in seven years."

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The US government is the "biased source" of the facts that prove Trump wrong?

Still waiting...are the facts you posted are from a government website?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you the facts you posted are from a government website?

The statistics are from the government.

Seriously, shut up liar.

Provide proof that he lied and give us YOUR proof of these lies.

Also:

Link to information below.

"Today, under President Trump’s leadership, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced that over 1,750 standalone Medicare Part D prescription drug plans and Medicare Advantage plans with prescription drug coverage have applied to offer lower insulin costs through the Part D Senior Savings Model for the 2021 plan year. Across the nation, participating enhanced Part D prescription drug plans will provide Medicare beneficiaries access to a broad set of insulins at a maximum $35 copay for a month’s supply, from the beginning of the year through the Part D coverage gap. The model follows on the Trump Administration’s previously announced 13.5 percent decline in the average monthly basic Part D premium since 2017 to the lowest level in seven years."

That's part D Medicare beneficiary info.
It doesn't help people who don't have part D.
The 2023 changes are for all diabetics, not just ones who have Medicare D

"INDIANAPOLIS, March 1, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Eli Lilly and Company (NYSE: LLY) today announced price reductions of 70% for its most commonly prescribed insulins and an expansion of its Insulin Value Program that caps patient out-of-pocket costs at $35 or less per month. Lilly is taking these actions to make it easier to access Lilly insulin and help Americans who may have difficulty navigating a complex healthcare system that may keep them from getting affordable insulin."
"While the current healthcare system provides access to insulin for most people with diabetes, it still does not provide affordable insulin for everyone and that needs to change," said David A. Ricks, Lilly's Chair and CEO."

As I said, you should spend some time learning about the stuff you bring up in arguments.
Your ;lack of knowledge trips you up every time.

So, care to tell us about the "571 miles" of wall built under Trump?
Or do you think he was telling the truth with that one?

Still waiting...are the facts you posted are from a government website?

Yes. They are.

Still waiting, can you tell us exactly where the "571 miles" of wall were built under Trump?
Maybe show us on Google Earth.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The statistics are from the government.

That's part D Medicare beneficiary info.
It doesn't help people who don't have part D.
The 2023 changes are for all diabetics, not just ones who have Medicare D

"INDIANAPOLIS, March 1, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Eli Lilly and Company (NYSE: LLY) today announced price reductions of 70% for its most commonly prescribed insulins and an expansion of its Insulin Value Program that caps patient out-of-pocket costs at $35 or less per month. Lilly is taking these actions to make it easier to access Lilly insulin and help Americans who may have difficulty navigating a complex healthcare system that may keep them from getting affordable insulin."
"While the current healthcare system provides access to insulin for most people with diabetes, it still does not provide affordable insulin for everyone and that needs to change," said David A. Ricks, Lilly's Chair and CEO."

As I said, you should spend some time learning about the stuff you bring up in arguments.
Your ;lack of knowledge trips you up every time.

So, care to tell us about the "571 miles" of wall built under Trump?
Or do you think he was telling the truth with that one?

Yes. They are.

Still waiting, can you tell us exactly where the "571 miles" of wall were built under Trump?
Maybe show us on Google Earth.

Doesn't matter, he still did the $35 first.

Now, provide PROOF of these alleged lies or go away troll.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The statistics are from the government

Are the facts you posted from a government website?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Doesn't matter, he still did the $35 first.

Now, provide PROOF of these alleged lies or go away troll.

Keep failing kid.
YOU said Biden made it MORE expensive. $35 for ALL is cheaper than $35 for SOME.
$35 for ALL was announced in 2023. Who was POTUS in 2023? Not Trump.
So, you fell for some bullshi*t, and then created your own spin on it and posted your OWN bullshit.
No critical thinking, no due diligence on your part.

Now, explain why Trump raised insulin prices so much for the first three years of his presidency, and why it's cheaper under Biden than under Trump, if Trump is the diabetcs' savior.

Now, tell us about the "571 miles" of wall built under Trump.
Where was that built, exactly?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Keep failing kid.
YOU said Biden made it MORE expensive. $35 for ALL is cheaper than $35 for SOME.
$35 for ALL was announced in 2023. Who was POTUS in 2023? Not Trump.
So, you fell for some bullshi*t, and then created your own spin on it and posted your OWN bullshit.
No critical thinking, no due diligence on your part.

Now, explain why Trump raised insulin prices so much for the first three years of his presidency, and why it's cheaper under Biden than under Trump, if Trump is the diabetcs' savior.
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Now, tell us about the "571 miles" of wall built under Trump.
Where was that built, exactly?

Are you going to back up your LIE claim or keep deflecting???

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Keep failing kid.
YOU said Biden made it MORE expensive. $35 for ALL is cheaper than $35 for SOME.
$35 for ALL was announced in 2023. Who was POTUS in 2023? Not Trump.
So, you fell for some bullshi*t, and then created your own spin on it and posted your OWN bullshit.
No critical thinking, no due diligence on your part.

Now, explain why Trump raised insulin prices so much for the first three years of his presidency, and why it's cheaper under Biden than under Trump, if Trump is the diabetcs' savior.
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Now, tell us about the "571 miles" of wall built under Trump.
Where was that built, exactly?

That graph is from a foundation that is about 5 years and woke...do you struggle with unbiased sources?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Are you going to back up your LIE claim or keep deflecting???

YOU brought up the insulin deflection, and even lied about THAT.

So get back on topic, and speak to just ONE of the lies of Trump's lies that I posted.

Explain the "571 miles" of new wall he claimed he built.
SHOW us the "571 miles" of this new all.