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[Captain_Ahab 5,000+ posts]

Man this ECA stack really speeds you up. I almost crapped my pants during my 8:00 class. Normally I have no problem holding in my morning crap until 9:30 or so.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Do you agree with his reasoning that the law field is too tight?

I don't think that it follows that if the law field is too tight then attempting to go into ADR is the answer. Think about it, if more traditional legal jobs are in short supply, wouldn't it make sense that there would be more people with JD's pursuing careers in ADR (that assumes, of course, that there are ample opportunities in ADR, which from what I have seen is definitely not the case). In other words, a tight legal market would really only mean that you have more competition from people who are more qualified.

Now if your question is more geared to whether the legal market is too tight then I can answer for my locale and give an educated guess as to your market.

Here, there is absolutely no question the market is tighter. I think most of this can be attributed to tort reform, which a large portion of our bar was stupid enough to eagerly give away the bride. For some reason, those practicing insurance defense did not realize that when lawsuits became unprofitable for plaintiffs' lawyers to file then their own workload would diminish. It used to be that almost any defense firm would entertain the idea of hiring a well qualified attorney any time the opportunity presented itself. I used to get phone calls from headhunters doing a search at least once a month, sometimes several times a month. It's just nothing like that now.

Florida used to have a newsletter with attorney jobs they used to send me once a week or month. They may still have that, but I can't remember where that originated from. If you could get your hands on one it may provide some idea. Another thing you could do is sit down with the placement offices of law schools. Although there is obviously an incentive to paint a better picture than what is realistic, in my experience these offices are much more professional and candid about the market than you will find with other schools. I think they would give you an accurate assessment.

I heard in passing that the medical field is one of the few ares where the job market is still growing. I have several friends in that field, and I have never known one who has had trouble finding a job. If you think that is something you could do, I would think that's the better course opportunity wise.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

I don't think that it follows that if the law field is too tight then attempting to go into ADR is the answer. Think about it, if more traditional legal jobs are in short supply, wouldn't it make sense that there would be more people with JD's pursuing careers in ADR (that assumes, of course, that there are ample opportunities in ADR, which from what I have seen is definitely not the case). In other words, a tight legal market would really only mean that you have more competition from people who are more qualified.
Now if your question is more geared to whether the legal market is too tight then I can answer for my locale and give an educated guess as to your market.

Here, there is absolutely no question the market is tighter. I think most of this can be attributed to tort reform, which a large portion of our bar was stupid enough to eagerly give away the bride. For some reason, those practicing insurance defense did not realize that when lawsuits became unprofitable for plaintiffs' lawyers to file then their own workload would diminish. It used to be that almost any defense firm would entertain the idea of hiring a well qualified attorney any time the opportunity presented itself. I used to get phone calls from headhunters doing a search at least once a month, sometimes several times a month. It's just nothing like that now.

Florida used to have a newsletter with attorney jobs they used to send me once a week or month. They may still have that, but I can't remember where that originated from. If you could get your hands on one it may provide some idea. Another thing you could do is sit down with the placement offices of law schools. Although there is obviously an incentive to paint a better picture than what is realistic, in my experience these offices are much more professional and candid about the market than you will find with other schools. I think they would give you an accurate assessment.

I heard in passing that the medical field is one of the few ares where the job market is still growing. I have several friends in that field, and I have never known one who has had trouble finding a job. If you think that is something you could do, I would think that's the better course opportunity wise.

I knew ADR wasn't an answer. I know exactly how that works. My question was geared toward the general. I should be able to find out about this newsletter.

I do understand Medical is more of a shoe in. I just think that a law degree would be much more rewarding, mentally. The nursing would pay for itself much faster. There is no doubt on that. My dilemma stems from what I would rather do vs. less risk/more logical. Sometimes I put way too much stock in "what I would rather do."

Appreciate the input.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Took care of some kids in the race to 10k thread...

nG

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Took care of some kids in the race to 10k thread...
nG

oh?

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Oh my lols you did //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

See, I believe I exposed ignorance, not that I am sad about it.

I thought that ADR was an alternative to "real" law and that those who went to law school wouldn't chose ADR, as there is less pretige there. This was all "guesses" made by me that turned out it be wrong.

It's kind of like this...one can be a MD with 20934376437 years of med school or one could be a RN in just a few. The payoff for the RN is much quicker. However, the RN is less prestigous than the MD. The only people I know (including myself) who has pursued either MD or PhD is because people would call them "Dr. Soandso". It wasn't a question of determination or of intellect, it was more of a question of "time to payoff" Again I may be being falsely judgmental here, but in my career field a "new start" that's in their mid30s won't stand a chance against a 24year old (unless the guy has a STRONG engineering background). I am not sure how other professions discriminate against age. The reasoning behind it is because the time one is 30s they have enough experience to understand the market to make good decisions.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

LOL @ Flip asking the same question that Ant already answered yesterday.

I plan on asking it several more times and then complaining how the race to 10k thwarts Ant's effort to advertise...meaning he can't properly answer questions because he is too busy with these promotions.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Flip, you still looking for cheap audios? http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5812425#post5812425

Those JL's are quite nice.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Flip, you still looking for cheap audios? http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5812425#post5812425
Those JL's are quite nice.

Yes, but no.

The Sony 4 channel can fit under my seat. $150 for a 4 channel that can fit under my seat. Needs to be less than 2" tall. I have a size and a cost problem.

I am only going to get a nicer amp (like the pdx) if I put it in the jump seat. If I do that, I will want componets, but I hate to have a nice frontstage and then no bass.

So, in a few weeks I will save up enough to get that cheap Sony amp.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

 

[Pootie 10+ year member]

Man this ECA stack really speeds you up. I almost crapped my pants during my 8:00 class. Normally I have no problem holding in my morning crap until 9:30 or so.

What exactly are you taking?

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

What exactly are you taking?

It sounds like a giant chocolate bar up the ***!

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

See, I believe I exposed ignorance, not that I am sad about it.
I thought that ADR was an alternative to "real" law and that those who went to law school wouldn't chose ADR, as there is less pretige there. This was all "guesses" made by me that turned out it be wrong.

It's kind of like this...one can be a MD with 20934376437 years of med school or one could be a RN in just a few. The payoff for the RN is much quicker. However, the RN is less prestigous than the MD. The only people I know (including myself) who has pursued either MD or PhD is because people would call them "Dr. Soandso". It wasn't a question of determination or of intellect, it was more of a question of "time to payoff" Again I may be being falsely judgmental here, but in my career field a "new start" that's in their mid30s won't stand a chance against a 24year old (unless the guy has a STRONG engineering background). I am not sure how other professions discriminate against age. The reasoning behind it is because the time one is 30s they have enough experience to understand the market to make good decisions.

Yeah, there was some ignorance there, but again your instinct that ADR would be a good career (for those who can break into it) was spot on.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]