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Jameseypoo
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Keeps it really real.
I've always been fond of how they look, I know absolutely nothing about them though
Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
If you were to make that bet with Mrs Prowler you'd be lost before you even started.
A) She's secure enough in her sexuality that she doesn't at all mind using toys whether you know about it or not so she doesn't need someone else's participation to get off if that's all she's after
B) My wife can out-stubborn a rock //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif (And this is in large part why I married her to begin with)
Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
I have asked Mrs Prowler about something very similar, actually.
Her answer:
No woman on the face of the Earth is going to agree to a completely platonic physical relationship without harboring some degree of hope that it would eventuate into something more concrete. (excepting the obvious blatant slut who cares about nothing more than getting laid, ever)
If the female in question doesn't belong in the group of obvious exceptions, even if the agreement is understood beforehand that there isn't going to be anything more involved than friendship and the occasional fvck, she's going to be insulted (whether or not it actually becomes an issue will additionally be up to the woman in question) should it be plainly illustrated that you just don't give a crap whether or not she pursues other interests outside of you.
Ego is a very, very powerful motivational force and when you make it clear that you have no interest in keeping that woman all to yourself the ego gets bruised.
It happens.
Life moves on.
Her answer:
No woman on the face of the Earth is going to agree to a completely platonic physical relationship without harboring some degree of hope that it would eventuate into something more concrete. (excepting the obvious blatant slut who cares about nothing more than getting laid, ever)
If the female in question doesn't belong in the group of obvious exceptions, even if the agreement is understood beforehand that there isn't going to be anything more involved than friendship and the occasional fvck, she's going to be insulted (whether or not it actually becomes an issue will additionally be up to the woman in question) should it be plainly illustrated that you just don't give a crap whether or not she pursues other interests outside of you.
Ego is a very, very powerful motivational force and when you make it clear that you have no interest in keeping that woman all to yourself the ego gets bruised.
It happens.
Life moves on.
Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
I don't think it has anything to do with lacking the intellectual capacity to uphold their side of the bargain ~ it's an ego-driven belief that should they decide to give up something so personal to someone else then it will naturally evolve into that someone wanting more than just the physical.
When that doesn't happen it begins to make them doubt their self-worth.
See - there are advantages to being married. I don't have to deal with such things. I know exactly who it is that I am allowed to get nasty with (Mrs Prowler) and nobody else.
On the flipside of the same coin she's tied to me in the same manner.
My first trip over there in 2001, though, I got tested. I do not know if it was on purpose or not but one of Mrs Prowler's longtime friends came onto me.
*sigh*
It could have been because she wanted to try out an American.
It could have been because she was testing to see what my response would be so that she could immediately report to Mrs Prowler that I was behaving inappropriately when presented with the opportunity to do so.
It could have been because the friend in question is a bit of hoe and that's just how she is with newcomers.
I don't know and do not care - it went nowhere and that was that.
When that doesn't happen it begins to make them doubt their self-worth.
See - there are advantages to being married. I don't have to deal with such things. I know exactly who it is that I am allowed to get nasty with (Mrs Prowler) and nobody else.
On the flipside of the same coin she's tied to me in the same manner.
My first trip over there in 2001, though, I got tested. I do not know if it was on purpose or not but one of Mrs Prowler's longtime friends came onto me.
*sigh*
It could have been because she wanted to try out an American.
It could have been because she was testing to see what my response would be so that she could immediately report to Mrs Prowler that I was behaving inappropriately when presented with the opportunity to do so.
It could have been because the friend in question is a bit of hoe and that's just how she is with newcomers.
I don't know and do not care - it went nowhere and that was that.
Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
Trading money for a physical good isn't nearly the same as sacrificing control of your body to another human being, Flip.
You're comparing apples and oranges here.
You're comparing apples and oranges here.
WhoSayWho?
5,000+ posts
Preston Caught a Predator
Why can't I free your doubtful mind and melt your cold cold heart...
WhoSayWho?
5,000+ posts
Preston Caught a Predator
Well there certainly are differences between marriage an a relationship with a **********.
A ********** will tell you how much it is going to cost before hand.
If a ********** doesn't do the deed, you don't have to pay.
A ********** will tell you how much it is going to cost before hand.
If a ********** doesn't do the deed, you don't have to pay.
Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
And with a ********** the only way you have to pay more than once is if you become a repeat customer.
Marriage?
'Nuff said...
Marriage?
'Nuff said...
Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
But to elaborate on the discussion at hand....
Flip - with a ********** it is understood up front that the trade of cash for a service is what's going on.
With a "friend with benefits" that simply isn't so.
The FWB isn't standing on a corner somewhere waiting for someone to come along and give her a ride on the MeatRocket.
Conversely the majority of men who frequent prostitutes wouldn't do so with a woman they are personally acquainted with (excepting the aforementioned repeat customer then it still isn't the same thing as the "relationship" is a business situation whereas your couplings with the FWB isn't that way).
It's still apples and oranges to my mind but apparently, Flip, you and I simply have differing perspectives on the subject.
That isn't to say either of us right or wrong - we're simply approaching the same intersection via different roads.
Flip - with a ********** it is understood up front that the trade of cash for a service is what's going on.
With a "friend with benefits" that simply isn't so.
The FWB isn't standing on a corner somewhere waiting for someone to come along and give her a ride on the MeatRocket.
Conversely the majority of men who frequent prostitutes wouldn't do so with a woman they are personally acquainted with (excepting the aforementioned repeat customer then it still isn't the same thing as the "relationship" is a business situation whereas your couplings with the FWB isn't that way).
It's still apples and oranges to my mind but apparently, Flip, you and I simply have differing perspectives on the subject.
That isn't to say either of us right or wrong - we're simply approaching the same intersection via different roads.
WhoSayWho?
5,000+ posts
Preston Caught a Predator
You have to find someone whose company means more to you than just *** first.
(Did I just say that????)
(Did I just say that????)
Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
The "advantages", per se, aren't something that can be tangibly quantified, Flip.
The only real advantages are completely intangible and can only be valued if one has some sort of belief in the convention of marriage and all that goes along with that.
When the ring on the fourth finger on my left hand comes into my awareness it brings a smile to my face. What it means to me is that another human being pledged themselves to me for the rest of eternity.
It means I have done the same for that other person.
It means I didn't get lucky and find someone that I could reasonably live with for the rest of my life ~ I was fortunate enough to find the one woman that I cannot envision living without. (yes, I know that's a bit of a quandry in my particular case but those specifics are notwithstanding to this discussion)
In my instance, Flip, when Mrs Prowler first came into my awareness I was freshly out of a longterm relationship that went south after close to 7 years.
I had absolutely zero interest in getting involved with anyone.
After she and I got to know each other better it became a bit of a running joke between she and I that it was too bad that we lived on opposite sides of the globe since the vast distance, obviously, made pursuing any kind of relationship outside of online "pen pals" of a sort rather impossible.
The more I got to know her the better I liked her.
Things got sticky.
It became more and more difficult to adhere to the rule she and I had set in place between us that we wouldn't ever entertain thoughts of taking it beyond a friendship since I was stateside and she's an Aussie.
Since one of our agreements involved always being truthful with one another one day I had to tell her that I was in love with her (yeah, yeah...I know. Take that for what it is worth since we had never met face-to-face at that stage in the game).
She revealed that she had similar feelings but there was absolutely no possibility of seeing if things would ever go any further than romantic ponderings in the dark of the night because of the distance involved.
The only way to tell for certain would be to be able somehow to spend time in one another's physical company for an appreciable amount of time.
So - the plan was made for me to go over in 2001 and spend three months with her to see what was what.
I was there for 13 days before I proposed to her. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
Pfft...I'm gonna stfu before I go all emo on you guys talking about things nobody cares about outside of myself. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
The only real advantages are completely intangible and can only be valued if one has some sort of belief in the convention of marriage and all that goes along with that.
When the ring on the fourth finger on my left hand comes into my awareness it brings a smile to my face. What it means to me is that another human being pledged themselves to me for the rest of eternity.
It means I have done the same for that other person.
It means I didn't get lucky and find someone that I could reasonably live with for the rest of my life ~ I was fortunate enough to find the one woman that I cannot envision living without. (yes, I know that's a bit of a quandry in my particular case but those specifics are notwithstanding to this discussion)
In my instance, Flip, when Mrs Prowler first came into my awareness I was freshly out of a longterm relationship that went south after close to 7 years.
I had absolutely zero interest in getting involved with anyone.
After she and I got to know each other better it became a bit of a running joke between she and I that it was too bad that we lived on opposite sides of the globe since the vast distance, obviously, made pursuing any kind of relationship outside of online "pen pals" of a sort rather impossible.
The more I got to know her the better I liked her.
Things got sticky.
It became more and more difficult to adhere to the rule she and I had set in place between us that we wouldn't ever entertain thoughts of taking it beyond a friendship since I was stateside and she's an Aussie.
Since one of our agreements involved always being truthful with one another one day I had to tell her that I was in love with her (yeah, yeah...I know. Take that for what it is worth since we had never met face-to-face at that stage in the game).
She revealed that she had similar feelings but there was absolutely no possibility of seeing if things would ever go any further than romantic ponderings in the dark of the night because of the distance involved.
The only way to tell for certain would be to be able somehow to spend time in one another's physical company for an appreciable amount of time.
So - the plan was made for me to go over in 2001 and spend three months with her to see what was what.
I was there for 13 days before I proposed to her. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
Pfft...I'm gonna stfu before I go all emo on you guys talking about things nobody cares about outside of myself. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
WhoSayWho?
5,000+ posts
Preston Caught a Predator
Well, to lighten things up for you Prowler -- Iamamp3pimp told me that Preston told him the he loved him in Preston's first PM to him.
Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
Preston's a hoe, though.
He's told me the same.
I told him I wasn't interested in fickle bitches //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
He's told me the same.
I told him I wasn't interested in fickle bitches //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
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