Considering a wall. Educate me.

Reasons why I regretted walling;
-I walled a 105hp Saturn. After walling, the car had so little power it was basically dangerous to drive on the

freeway

-We had to build inside the vehicle because the car was so small. None of this build a box, slide it in, and seal it off. So when the build ******, mine peaked in the upper 50s, a tear down was going to be a major issue.

-Not that it mattered because it was just a saturn, but even after wall was removed, the car was trashed. Both from flexing a little plastic car and building in the car

-At the time, I was driving over 1000 miles a week for work. People can say driving walled isnt an annoyance; drive it 1000 miles, with no power to accomplish much on the road.

-All that extra weight with all the high mileage basically burnt out my transmission

-Lastly, and most importantly...with todays equipment, any wall not doing upper 50s in unimpressive and a waste of time. Too many non walled dailys doing 55+ now
Yea starting with a Saturn was prly not the best idea... but my buddies Hhr is a 4cyc and walled with four team sundown 15s and 4 8k amps and dual alts.. was his daily driver and made it to 200k miles. Still runs and drives. He just bought a Tahoe is the only reason for retiring it... so that Chevy HHR must be a beast compare to a Saturn

 
Lmao a wall makes your vehicle safe. U could have a roll over and walk away fine... the box u had in your truck was not a proper wall. A wall needs to be one with the vehicle and tied into it structurally. U had a big box and not a wall.
Lmao yes I know even tho your talking **** it is true, but I meant safe for thieves and *****.

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guy with two soundrive sda 15s no walled below window line was doing 154.5 with one window open on a ford ranger. Sealed he lost more than 3 db though because of how his truck acoustics is. Two synergy 3500.1s half ohm.
Almost EVERY pickup I've seen gains huge with a window open. It is dramatic.

As to the question. If you are prepared for the money, work, weight, and the fact that it is permanent, go for it.

You will spend more than you think you will on wood, glue, screws, paint/carpet and other hardware and odds and ends that you haven't considered. I'd budget 1000$ for materials anyway.

It is a lot of weight, so if you don't have a vehicle that can hang with the extra weight or if being fast or fuel economy is important to you, might reconsider.

Lastly it's permanent. Don't plan to re-sell the vehicle later, and whatever you invest into it beyond wire and equipment won't transport out to your next vehicle (unlike just a box which may be able to go with you or even be sold). Oh, and if you get loud you'll start breaking stuff.

Beyond that is the obvious expenses of getting loud even if you stay below the window line. Electrical upgrades, wires/terminals/distro blocks won't be cheap and batteries/alternator will need to be replaced in 3-5 years or so. Big amps are expensive as are repairs when you break them.

Anyway, I'd recommend you go for it. You'll learn a lot and you're young enough to not feel physically broken after a 40+ hour install. Just be aware of what you're getting into and make sure you have the budget and determination to follow through and do everything right once you start.

You chose an expensive hobby. Learn early to DIY as much as possible, buy high quality now and every time, and work hard to earn money to keep trying to get louder.

 
I think most vehicles gain a couple db with the windows down. When I had my 15 ported, and even with my 18 sealed, anything under 32 just vibrates inaudibly unless my two front windows are down. Good luck with your install though. I've been rolling the dice on doing a wall and I just don't want to risk screwing up a nice car with my first wall.

 
I think most vehicles gain a couple db with the windows down. When I had my 15 ported, and even with my 18 sealed, anything under 32 just vibrates inaudibly unless my two front windows are down. Good luck with your install though. I've been rolling the dice on doing a wall and I just don't want to risk screwing up a nice car with my first wall.
My 15 in the trunk is a lot louder with the passenger door open. That's just how I do demos anyway.

 
Almost EVERY pickup I've seen gains huge with a window open. It is dramatic.
As to the question. If you are prepared for the money, work, weight, and the fact that it is permanent, go for it.

You will spend more than you think you will on wood, glue, screws, paint/carpet and other hardware and odds and ends that you haven't considered. I'd budget 1000$ for materials anyway.

It is a lot of weight, so if you don't have a vehicle that can hang with the extra weight or if being fast or fuel economy is important to you, might reconsider.

Lastly it's permanent. Don't plan to re-sell the vehicle later, and whatever you invest into it beyond wire and equipment won't transport out to your next vehicle (unlike just a box which may be able to go with you or even be sold). Oh, and if you get loud you'll start breaking stuff.

Beyond that is the obvious expenses of getting loud even if you stay below the window line. Electrical upgrades, wires/terminals/distro blocks won't be cheap and batteries/alternator will need to be replaced in 3-5 years or so. Big amps are expensive as are repairs when you break them.

Anyway, I'd recommend you go for it. You'll learn a lot and you're young enough to not feel physically broken after a 40+ hour install. Just be aware of what you're getting into and make sure you have the budget and determination to follow through and do everything right once you start.

You chose an expensive hobby. Learn early to DIY as much as possible, buy high quality now and every time, and work hard to earn money to keep trying to get louder.
I know I have the ability to do it or I wouldn't have suggested it. But after this post I would definitely like to have a box rather than a wall. I know it's an expensive hobby so I work my *** off for the stuff I have even if it isn't much right now. (Even though I've gotten some of my friends to tap out lol) I did everything in the system but the head unit myself and plan to never use a shop again as long as I live.
 
I love my car walled! The sound quality was night and day better. Way less body to flex. It helped with the weight in my car and much better weight distribution. Coming from big box over my rear axle to a lighter infinite baffle wall much more forward helped with weight a lot. I obviously have different goals though. More for sq. I wish I could weld my doors to keep them from flapping though. Lol. Stopped the windshield and roof flex. That helped big time!

 
My 15 in the trunk is a lot louder with the passenger door open. That's just how I do demos anyway.
Raw drivers need some kind of cabinetry, As a teen we connected a Jensen 6x9 speaker and held it in a hand and it didn't sound nearly as good as when my friend opened his dresser drawer and we held the speaker in the door opening making a litle cabinet behind it and it sounded a LOT better! The bass was more pronounced!

Oh, and there's this thing in physics called wavelength and when you try to set up an audio wavelength in a closed space the lowest freq is determined by the longest length of free space in the enclosed space. Do the math.

John Kuthe...

 
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I know I have the ability to do it or I wouldn't have suggested it. But after this post I would definitely like to have a box rather than a wall. I know it's an expensive hobby so I work my *** off for the stuff I have even if it isn't much right now. (Even though I've gotten some of my friends to tap out lol) I did everything in the system but the head unit myself and plan to never use a shop again as long as I live.
On the bright side, just a big arse box is MUCH cheaper and not permanent so that would be a good starting point to play around with volume and tuning to see what you like. IMO walling a pickup is hit or miss since as has been said no-wall can get very loud and often depth may be an issue with making the port work.

That said......

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On the bright side, just a big arse box is MUCH cheaper and not permanent so that would be a good starting point to play around with volume and tuning to see what you like. IMO walling a pickup is hit or miss since as has been said no-wall can get very loud and often depth may be an issue with making the port work.
That said......

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I'll leave the walk building to our Lord and saviour in the white House. To give him credit though... China has a wall and look how many illegal Mexicans they have.... Lolol JK! Ive definitely decided on a big box. No matter if it is in the truck or car.

 
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