lubetek
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no the HDD will not skip.
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Shinobi
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An intresting idea with a car puter would be wireless internet with the mini pc im sure it could be done .
lubetek
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yes it could be. just need to install a wireless ethernet card and be in an area where a signal is present. (like a starbucks parking lot)
jrpro130
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Get Your Face *****
computers will always sound better...there is a thread about this on mp3car.com
think about where music origionally comes from...computer
when burned to a cd it is drastically reduced in quality 320kb/sec
on a computer you can get a crazy amount like 900kb/sec or something.
just get an ology s/c and be done. on the atx-m1 there is the amp power turn on (remote) lead on it. just hook this to the ology s/c which does have rca outputs and be done w/ it
don't run a h/u..i'ts not worth it. This is my next big project after my 5" lift w/ 33's (3" spinle 2" t bar) for the ranger guys who know what i'm talking about
think about where music origionally comes from...computer
when burned to a cd it is drastically reduced in quality 320kb/sec
on a computer you can get a crazy amount like 900kb/sec or something.
just get an ology s/c and be done. on the atx-m1 there is the amp power turn on (remote) lead on it. just hook this to the ology s/c which does have rca outputs and be done w/ it
don't run a h/u..i'ts not worth it. This is my next big project after my 5" lift w/ 33's (3" spinle 2" t bar) for the ranger guys who know what i'm talking about
lubetek
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once you rip the music from a cd and compress it into a mp3 or ogg, or wma file you lose some of the quality. Thats a fact. CD quality from the SOURCE will always be better than a compressed file taken from the disc that was created off the original studio sourse. If you think you will do a carputer and that it will be of higher sq than a good hu cd player then you are sadly mistaken. Also you will need a hu for the PC to run through anyway.
oh and its an Audigy not an ology
oh and its an Audigy not an ology
jrpro130
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you definetly don't need a hu for the pc to run through. you are wrong about that. check out mp3car.com and post what you just said there...talk about a flame war //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif
i'm not going to argue about this...but i know what the answer is. I wasn't talking about burnt cd's. I was talking about the quality of when you put a CD into your h/u or rip it to your hd on your carputer. Generally...you can find (online, legally) songs that are above cd quality ( greater than 320kb/sec ) therefore your audio SHOULD have more SQ.
on the M1-ATX or ATX-M1 I'm not sure the order of it...there is a spot for a remote turn on for the amp. You can use as many as you would like. Also, most modern and decent sound cards have RCA outputs. And especially as an audio guy and obviously computer, if you put on in your car you must like them, you would STRIVE to get RCA outputs because of pure SQ. Even if you compete in SPL I'm sure you would not want to run through a HEADPHONE JACK. Thats a little off the wall. Carputers are a lot more modern than that.
Just save yourself...don't ever run your RCA's through a headphone jack...it will absolutely destroy the purpose of every basis of SQ through a carputer.
So the answer is...NO you do not have to run a H/U... please read post number 3. Take your time and read through the whole thread...it's pretty intersting. Most of these guys know their stuff. And most of them are either computer engineers or technical engineers.
What do I know...
:edit: I messed my link up
Ctminime
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are u completly retarded the hdd wont "skip" persay but if you hit a bump while it is reading the needle on the drive WILL screw up the drive... and that is a fact.... unless it is a solidstate hdd or a drive rated for alot of shock protection i can see this being a bad idea..... typically laptops have drives in them rated for shock protection.... but i dont know about drivin around in a car.... u might want to read up on that one and invest in a GOOD shock protection drive (no bobs hard drive company) grab a slimline mator x-shock drive good shit... kinda pricey tho...
Don't get the Audigy 2 ZS, get the Audigy 4....
don't listen to him, he doesn't know what he's talking about. A regular hard drive will work fine with out skips. I been using a maxtor for 6 months now and not 1 skip. And this is on NYC roads. there really isn't a need to pay extra for a laptop drive or any other shock protection.
This is from experiece so don't come along telling me the hard drive is not designed for this. Well it's not but it works.
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I had my carputer in my car for about a month and i never had any problem with it HDD skipping. another thing if your really into internet in your car you can get a card that is made by sony (someone else might make one as well) But it takes a sim card the same that go into all GSM cell phones. and if you have a data plan on that simcard through a cellphone provider like t-mobile or cingular than you can get internet anywhere you get cellphone reception. or another idea is to get a bluetooth hub for your computer and get a bluetooth phone that has internet on it and share the internet between the phone and the computer. I beleive only certain phone have this ability but i know that my nokia 6820 does.
lubetek
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ahh I thought you were talking about ripped cd's. I have never heard of running a pc in the car and not running it through the hu. I'll have to read that thread and see what thats about. Thanks.
lubetek
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Last I checked I wasn't retarded. I'm A+ certified though so that should stand for something. (should lol)
as for a normal HDD skipping. I do not see that being a problem. Maybe your car has crap for suspension and every bump jars you badly. I have no idea. Most cars ride fairly smooth these days. Skipping will NOT be an issue.
lubetek
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I have to agree with you on that one.
lubetek
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Thank you. and trust me I wasn't listening to him. He starts by asking me if I'm retarded and then admits it wont skip persay....it would take a big bump.
takeabao
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Okay, I hate to be the one to break it to you folks, but a carputer with a simple soundcard (external OR internal) will NOT sound as good or better than a good HU (and by good, I mean something with a 24-bit DAC) -- regardless of the sound card you use. The reason? I'm not going to get too technical (there's quite a few articles out there about it), but just know that the preout voltage on a computer sound card is extremely low (check out the Creative website for exact specs... you'll be a bit surprised) and is very sensitive to distortion...
Don't believe me? Go listen to a "n00b" carputer setup with something like a SoundBlaster Audigy NX (external) connected via RCA to amplifiers. Then listen to decent transport >>> amplifiers setup (something like an Eclipse CD8053). The difference is DRAMATIC.
If you want to do a carputer, please, for Christ's sake do it right and use an outboard processor/DAC.
The easiest way to accomplish this is build a carputer using a motherboard with a digital coaxial output. That particular signal is particarly easy to convert into Toslink (what most people associate with "optical") which would be connected to your amp or processor (in my case, an Alpine H701).
Don't you see? The computer is just another transport, albeit a VERY versatile one. But all it is, is your preamp. Nothing more. Your outboard processor/EQ/crossover will handle the rest. If you want to achieve the ultimate in sound quality with your carputer, don't even think about using headphone outputs converted to RCA -- you will be very dissapointed.
Digital is the ONLY way to go.
Here's some food for thought (something I will probably do in an upcoming install in my father's car):
Carputer with digital out >>> toslink >>> Alpine MRA-D550 5.1 Dolby Digital amp >>> sub amp
A simple, and TRUE, 5.1 in-car system.
Don't believe me? Go listen to a "n00b" carputer setup with something like a SoundBlaster Audigy NX (external) connected via RCA to amplifiers. Then listen to decent transport >>> amplifiers setup (something like an Eclipse CD8053). The difference is DRAMATIC.
If you want to do a carputer, please, for Christ's sake do it right and use an outboard processor/DAC.
The easiest way to accomplish this is build a carputer using a motherboard with a digital coaxial output. That particular signal is particarly easy to convert into Toslink (what most people associate with "optical") which would be connected to your amp or processor (in my case, an Alpine H701).
Don't you see? The computer is just another transport, albeit a VERY versatile one. But all it is, is your preamp. Nothing more. Your outboard processor/EQ/crossover will handle the rest. If you want to achieve the ultimate in sound quality with your carputer, don't even think about using headphone outputs converted to RCA -- you will be very dissapointed.
Digital is the ONLY way to go.
Here's some food for thought (something I will probably do in an upcoming install in my father's car):
Carputer with digital out >>> toslink >>> Alpine MRA-D550 5.1 Dolby Digital amp >>> sub amp
A simple, and TRUE, 5.1 in-car system.
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