components with ring radiator tweets

[hawaiian5 10+ year member]

my girl is going back to school, so her dad bought her a new diesel 2500 dodge ram big horn. ( spoiled ****en brat )//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/pissed.gif.9f665f96bc89e98e708dabd4580bb591.gif ...lol...anyways, i aint gonna give her my germaniums or my sscs. i have taken interest in components with the ring radiator tweeters. can u guys help me out and name some brands that have them?. gonna buy a set and use her new truck as a test subject.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif lol... if their are alot of brands, just name them all, cause i only know of hypnotic and polk. thx guys

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[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

both those mentioned are the vifa's and not the ring revs... the only 2 car audio comp sets with the true rings are the Alpine F1's which I do not like..... and the Genesis absolute's.... both are very pricey.....

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

Alpine SPX-177R

Alpine SPX-17REF*

Alpine SPX-17PRO*

New '07 Alpine Type R

Polk SR6500 (my choice out of the bunch)

* soon to be released ('07 Alpine Catalog - last page)

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

Alpine SPX-177RAlpine SPX-17REF*

Alpine SPX-17PRO*

New '07 Alpine Type R

Polk SR6500 (my choice out of the bunch)

* soon to be released ('07 Alpine Catalog - last page)

once again...these are vifa tweeters and not the scan ring revs...huge difference

 

[MiniVanMan 10+ year member]

The problem with most ring radiator tweeters is their off-axis response. You basically have to play them dead on-axis. When you do, you get very high quality sound, and in the case of the Vifa XT25, and XT19, it's great sound for a very low price.

If you want to play with different tweeters, you might want to think about doing something active. The Alpine variant XT19, found in the SPX-177R sets can be found on PacParts for $14.00 a piece. If you can just find a good deal on the Alpine set, then that's not a bad option either. I'm not a fan of that mid, but the tweeter and crossover are top notch.

once again...these are vifa tweeters and not the scan ring revs...huge difference

Because there's a huge price difference doesn't make the XT25 not a ring radiator. Yes, there is a huge difference between the two tweeters, but it's the same as saying the Vifa D26 tweeter isn't a true small dome tweeter because it's not the Scan D2904/6000.

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

once again...these are vifa tweeters and not the scan ring revs...huge difference

Are you taling about the Genesis Absolute R1? Aren't the diaphrams a very similar design as the Vifa XT25?

R1

XT25

And yes, the F1's and the R1's are disgustingly pricey. Especially the Genesis R1's (about $2000 each last I knew).

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

Are you taling about the Genesis Absolute R1? Aren't the diaphrams a very similar design as the Vifa XT25?
R1

XT25

And yes, the F1's and the R1's are disgustingly pricey. Especially the Genesis R1's (about $2000 each last I knew).

I have the R1's in my car...... but the Vifa's and the scan ring rev's are nothing alike other then both have a ribbed shaped dome and phase plug....

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

Good gravy you have $4000 worth of tweeters in your car! Daymn.

Of course they're not alike... if I'm remembering correctly, aren't the R1's using a photolithographed voice coil whereas the Vifa's are still coil wound wire?

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

that and the motor is vastly different....

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

Good gravy you have $4000 worth of tweeters in your car! Daymn.

And they're not even covered //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif I'm hoping something goes over those, but I don't see any mounting holes for a grill.

Seems WAY unsafe on the floor like that, either getting stepped on, dirt/mud from shoes or whatever.

To the OP: I've been running the XT25's for about a year now and really enjoy them. Sounds is very smooth/detailed, not overly bright. At times I'd like a little more volume from them, but that's what the rear fill is for //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

To the OP: I've been running the XT25's for about a year now and really enjoy them. Sounds is very smooth/detailed, not overly bright. At times I'd like a little more volume from them

Are they pointing straight at you?

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

that and the motor is vastly different....

Is there a Gensis website with the technical details/white papers on the R1?

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

Good gravy you have $4000 worth of tweeters in your car! Daymn.

Whats the difference (besides the mounting flange) between those $4,000 tweets and the three types of Scanspeak ring radiator tweeters on Madisound for $800 per pair?

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/index.php?manufacturers_id=148&sort=3a&page=3

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

Are they pointing straight at you?

Pass side is pretty much on-axis, but not the driver's side as they're kind of low in the doors. I have the large format ones from AA, so not easy to put in the A pillars.

I'm really happy with the sound of them though. I used to like brighter tweets, usually titanium, as I had JBL's in the car & home. But these have grown on me and just sound pleasing to my ears.

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

Pass side is pretty much on-axis, but not the driver's side as they're kind of low in the doors.

that's what the rear fill is for

MiniVanMan is creeping up behind you to kick you in the back of the head. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif