Clipping~ what exactly is it

He also forgot to mention that he's running the amp... at .35 ohm.

Current isn't something to play around with man, there's a reason why manufacturers say run this at 1ohm.

 
Low voltage ? or how do you send a bad signal? i have a 3kd at .5 ohm, with volts dropping no lower than 12.6 at full tilt and i put a thread at ssa and asked on the BTL page if i was burning excess glue off or what it was. and he said i was "clipping the heck" out of it. so now i am curious since my volt dropps arent that low.
Well why did you come bother us with it then? I'm pretty sure no one over there said to come to the geniuses of ca.com and ask what clipping is....

 
"Clipping has nothing to do with the dc voltage going to your amp. Clipping is the square wave of your RCA input signal, when you turn your volume all the way up you will get a dirty signal. Running that amp at .5ohm (which is really .35) is causing it to attempt to put out more current, than voltage. When you do this it will cause the coils to fail. More current is a bad thing, it's simple ohms law...

 

Impedance (resistance) goes down, Voltage goes down, and Current (heat) goes up...causing failure."

nG

 
"Clipping has nothing to do with the dc voltage going to your amp. Clipping is the square wave of your RCA input signal, when you turn your volume all the way up you will get a dirty signal. Running that amp at .5ohm (which is really .35) is causing it to attempt to put out more current, than voltage. When you do this it will cause the coils to fail. More current is a bad thing, it's simple ohms law... 

Impedance (resistance) goes down, Voltage goes down, and Current (heat) goes up...causing failure."

nG
haha yer the man! i will just come to you with all my questions and skip the middle man

 
"Clipping has nothing to do with the dc voltage going to your amp. Clipping is the square wave of your RCA input signal, when you turn your volume all the way up you will get a dirty signal. Running that amp at .5ohm (which is really .35) is causing it to attempt to put out more current, than voltage. When you do this it will cause the coils to fail. More current is a bad thing, it's simple ohms law... 

Impedance (resistance) goes down, Voltage goes down, and Current (heat) goes up...causing failure."

nG
See i told you it had nothing to do with voltage. s my D

 
if you have other processors inline(like a preamp eq, or cross over) they can increase the rca voltage. so having the gain at 1/2 may still be to high depending on what the gains are set at on the processors inline.

 
Props to swez @ clubknowledge.com


First off, let's define CLIPPING distortion...

This is when an amplifier has reached its maximum output capacity yet tries to keep up with the input signal gain ratio between the signal source "HU" and Amp. The amp hits an imaginary wall whereby the output signal is no longer a symetrical replication of the input signal. The wave form in, does not match the wave form out in shape or amplitude. (you can see this easily if you had a A/B channel oscilloscope; channel A connected to the amp input, channel B to amp output) The only difference you should see between channel A & B are signal amplitude values. If the signal shape varies considerably in channel B, you have a problem with clipping.

So.. what's wrong with this picture? The amp tries to put out the appropriate power, but runs out of voltage from the supply rails and we get a flat spot at the upper and lower peaks of the wave form. In an extreme case, "severe clipping", there is so much additional energy buildup (heat) into the voice coil(s), but the cone does not move (motivate) enough to cool the voice coil and former adequately. Hense, the voice coil over heats and either seizes in the gap or burns the voice coil windings. RESULT: OPEN CIRCUIT and a blown speaker!

OK, what happens to the speakers when they are underpowered? Under normal listening conditions... NOTHING! There is adequate signal voltage from the amplifier to motivate the speaker. This moves the speaker cone and draws/expells air to cool the voice coil adequately. No problems here... just modest output from the speaker. This happens all the time when we ride with the tunes playing low enough to hear our buddy in the co-pilot seat chattering on his/her cell phone.

SO WE CAN USE LOW POWER SAFELY ON SPEAKERS?

Yes... When we use a small amp to drive a high powered speaker, the speaker can take all the "clean power" the amp can deliver and more. But it's when we push the amplifer into high distortion ("clipping") mode, the speaker cannot move (motivate) in and out adequately to cool the voice coil. Eventually, this will even fry a very expensive speaker in this manner.

WELL THEN WISE GUY... WHAT CAUSES THIS "CLIPPING" THING?

Glad you asked! The amp will try to meet the power demand placed upon it, but it cannot exceed its design capabilities. This in turn, produces the deadly "square wave" output to the speaker. The speaker sees this severely clipped signal as something similar to DC current. Speakers cannot deal well with DC inputs. The cone goes in or out and stays there. No motivation to cool the voilce coil and sooner or later, the speaker will fail.

YEAH... YEAH... SO WHAT CAN I DO TO PREVENT THIS?

Alright, we know what clipping is, how it affects amps and speakers. What do we do to keep this problem from destroying our expensive drivers? Easy deal:

1. Use amps that closely match or modestly exceed the power rating of the speaker. A 100 watt speaker will love getting 125 watts of "clean power" vs a 100 watt speaker getting 25 watts of badly clipped (distorted) power.

2. Know what distortion sounds like and prevent it by proper amp setup procedures. (HU/amp gain matching, limited bass boost usage)

3. If you are not sure your system is clipping, best thing to do is get out

of the vehicle, open the doors and step to the rear of the vehicle about 10 feet and listen...

a. Are the highs and mids clear and natural sounding or harsh, shrill and very poor SQ? You are clipping the amp if you hear the latter!

b. Does the bass sound full, tight, have a definite thump and smooth transitions from one note to another? If not, good chance the sub amp is clipping or your enclosure design is not optimal for the subs.
http://www.caraudiojunkyard.com/forum/audio-knowledge/44-clipping-distortion-how-they-affect-our-system.html

 
Activity
No one is currently typing a reply...
Old Thread: Please note, there have been no replies in this thread for over 3 years!
Content in this thread may no longer be relevant.
Perhaps it would be better to start a new thread instead.

About this thread

Joseph M

10+ year member
149.00 db club.
Thread starter
Joseph M
Joined
Location
Moxee, Wa
Start date
Participants
Who Replied
Replies
31
Views
1,602
Last reply date
Last reply from
Lakota
IMG_20260516_193114554_HDR.jpg

sherbanater

    May 16, 2026
  • 0
  • 0
IMG_20260516_192955471_HDR.jpg

sherbanater

    May 16, 2026
  • 0
  • 0

New threads

Top