First, comments like these simply demonstrate either your lack of understanding of the crux of the conversation or your ignorance (or both).
Second, the Turntable you've selected is sold out on-line. You're going to have choose a different table //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
It was more to illiterate a point.
There is a point where different electronics don't sound much different, and maybe the human ear can't even pick them up at this point.
But, I am still a firm believe in the idea that electronics do sound different.
Obviously if you have two amplifiers/receivers/processors/CD Players that have the EXACT same specs side by side you aren't going to hear a difference. But, when was the last time you saw this?
However, I believe it is outlandish to say that "amp 1 will always sound the same as amp 2". Mostly because two amplifiers have different designs, components, tolerances, manufacturing processes, etc etc.
These all will make an acoustic change.
I don't view these threads or topics as being clever by showing the scientific numbers and ABX tests, I see them as people trying to say that a $500 amplifier will preform the same as a $5000 amplifier. To be honest, this goes against everything I have heard, seen, smelled, tasted, and experienced ever since I have been involved in audio. Which is my entire life. And from my experience I have heard a difference, which leads me to believe that these ABX tests are total BS and setup to fail. Either that or they are picking people with hearing aids or extra crusty ears.
I remember sitting with my dad when I was little, he was buying new amplifiers for our old Meyer MSL-3 PA speakers. We had Crown, Hafler, QSC, Crest, H||H and a few other amps and listened to all of them. Over and over and over and over again. They all had different things about them that made some better than others in one area or another. Now are you telling me that these amplifiers didn't sound different? Because there was a difference.
I know I'm not a famous d-bag who is a religious fanatic in the church of Electronics and Cables don't make a difference. But, doesn't my experience mean anything? I get the fact that some people have the 'placebo' effect. That is totally understandable, it happens everyday with all sorts of things, soft drinks, car brands, TVs, etc etc. But, maybe could there be a slight possibility that in some cases the placebo effect isn't occurring. Fanatics in the church of Electronics and Cables don't make a difference never think so. They don't hear a difference so how can there be, lets test people to see with an ABX test. There is another church that does this, you see them at the mall and you grab a hold of these little metal pads then they tell you about how much happier you life can be if you come talk to them. (Hint Tom Cruise)
Honestly, in my humble opinion, the anti groups is so strong in their voice that the truth doesn't even matter. If I brought one of these COCAEDMAD (Church of Cables and Eletronics Don't Make A Difference) to my house, and sat them down on my couch and played a various mix of music and swapped amplifiers and cables and CD Players and asked them "did you hear anything change, because I switched amplifiers and CD Players" they would probably say "no nothing changed". Mostly because they don't care to hear any difference. But, if you changed them on a non COCAEDMAD they might would hear a difference.
Example. I went to my ex-dealer a while back looking to get a dedicated CD Player (I know I must be one of those crazy antichrist audiophile types). I listened to 2 CD Players on the same setup (B&W 804S, Rotel Amplifier, Rotel Processor, also swapped the processor for an Arcam one too just for shits and giggles), but the CD Players were Rotel and Arcam. I brought identical original store purchased copies of all my CDs (I'm not even going to attempt to argue why CDR can sound worse than the original), I have 10 duplicates just for this purpose. Listened to the Rotel for a while, "wow that sounds good", listened to the Arcam "wow that sounds good", listened to the Rotel again.
Did this for about 2 hours, A/B them, then listen, then listen Loud, then listen Soft, then Listen at middle level, walk around and listened. I did EVERYTHING, and it is a good thing one of my friends used to work there. But, I walked out with the Arcam. Mostly because it was generally cleaner and had much better imaging. So, I could hear a difference. Was I just fooling myself?
I mean seriously. Trash in Trash out right?
I guess I am just under the spell of the price tag and must upgrade to the next thing because my penis is small. That must be why I passed up the opportunity to trade my B&W 703 to B&W 804S.
I must be crazy... I think I am going to go seek out psychiatric help...
