Cali is now Mexico?

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Please do not turn this into an arguement about GW and his "buddies", because while I may not be the smartest one in the bunch, exploitation of these criminals for cheap labor has been going on long before GW was around.

Yes, it was I agree. But it is in fact GW and his regime and his corporate freinds that stand to profit by making them legal to work here by instituting the "guest worker" program.

 

[RandyJ 10+ year member]

Yes, it was I agree. But it is in fact GW and his regime and his corporate freinds that stand to profit by making them legal to work here.

Then it has been the itinerary of every president and his cabinet to profit, since this is not only happening under the GW administration. My only attempt here is to ensure that GW is not solely blamed for this, because it clearly is not only him (and his "buddies"), and clearly did not start with him.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

My only attempt here is to ensure that GW is not solely blamed for this, because it clearly is not only him (and his "buddies"), and clearly did not start with him.

Then why is this just now becoming such a huge issue and why is GW pushing for this so much. Clinton never pushed for that, Bush Sr. never pushed for it and neither did Reagan. I would like to see your proof that he didn't start this.

BTW, glad to see you're a Bush crony. Like we need more of them.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[RandyJ 10+ year member]

Then why is this just now becoming such a huge issue and why is GW pushing for this so much. Clinton never pushed for that, Bush Sr. never pushed for it and neither did Reagan. I would like to see your proof that he didn't start this.
BTW, glad to see you're a Bush crony. Like we need more of them.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

You edited your last post... I was under the influence that you meant it was GW and his buddies who stood to profit from them getting kicked the hell out. See where I could get confused? I was using "it" to refer to illegal immigration, not knowing that the guestworker program is what you were reffering to.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

You edited your last post... I was under the influence that you meant it was GW and his buddies who stood to profit from them getting kicked the hell out. See where I could get confused? I was using "it" to refer to illegal immigration, not knowing that the guestworker program is what you were reffering to.

I understand, sorry for the confusion.

 

[Kagymp5 10+ year member]

I think they should all be shot

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

just wanted

Just wanted what?

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

Ngsm didnt really say that. I can make up fake quotes too

Devillain00 is my father!

Just an example crown amps, your name was the first name viewing this thread I saw.

 

[skeptikal Premium Member]

you know why they hate america? ever asked or witnessed? know why they return over and over again?
80% of contractors hire them, make them work 14 hours a day, then after 2 weeks the contractors call immigration. the immigrants never get paid, they cycle them over and over. the contractors themselves get paid to turn them in. we abuse the system as well.

^^ The white man fights back ^^

They are treated like rats..... but hey, when you hop over the fence or swim across the river like a rat you are going to get treated like one.

That situtation does not happen to Immigrants who are LEGAL. Border hoppers have no rights as citizens in any way, shape, or form. They are not citizens and should not be granted citizenship if they are not properly documented or processed.

Now I'm not hating on immigrants in any way. The company I work for employs alot of mexican / asian immigrants to do all the bullsh*t work for $5.25/hour that the white men dont want to do. They work very hard and are all legal immigrants, and some of them are actually quite funny.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

some of them are actually quite funny.

Funny looking?

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

YAY!!! I made another sig... good quote too...

nG

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

YAY!!! I made another sig... good quote too...
nG

I didnt see you say it.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

Stop posting random spam.

 

[deadboi77 10+ year member]

1) Illegal immigration is not about race, its about legally being in this country. So, don't let yourself get baited into a racial argument. A "white" from Europe, a "black" from Africa, a "red" from India, and and a "yellow" from Asia, are just as "illegal" as a "brown" from Mexico. [Too often--especially in large metropolitan areas--the apologists and pro-illegal alien crowd try to turn the debate into a racial issue.]

2) The US Constitution only applies to US Citizens. There is no such thing as a "right to a better life," or a "right to the American dream." These are not from the Constitution or even case law. They are propaganda sound bites from the pro-illegal alien crowd.

[There are some apologists who doubt this. OK Mr. apologist, give us some case law or any other jurisprudence that enumerates a "right to a better life," or a "right to the American dream" for illegal aliens . . . ]

3) If you are not in this country legally, you HAVE NO Constitutional rights. The US Constitution protects US Citizens--not people here illegally. This one must be repeated over and over again . . . [There are some apologists who are trying to put a religious spin on this one. Of course you can't just kill an illegal, of course you can't torture an illegal, these were extreme and poor examples for the apologists to use. My retort is to point out the obvious: illegals have no right to free speech or assembly (1st Amend), no right to keep and bear arms (2nd Amend), no search and seizure rights (4th Amend), and the list goes on. Look, I fully undrestand that for some of you apologists, the truth hurts . . . but always remember, you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free . . .]

4) Illegal immigrants benefit from the taxes you pay. For example, if you live in Texas, especially Houston, a large portion of your property tax goes to pay for healthcare and education of illegals. Not-for-profit hospitals (funded by tax dollars) do not turn away illegals; AND, it is against the law in Texas for a school to ask for citizenship information. This message sent is: get here, and we will take care of you, and educate your children. [Many realists have pointed out--correctly--that my example is but a drop in the bucket. They are correct, the drain on the tax base by illegals is staggering. Most citizens would be outraged if they new just how profound and pervasive this drain is.]

5) If a person is born in the US, they are a citizen of the US. So, if two illegals have a child on US soil, that child is a US citizen, who can then provide a legal avenue for the two illegal parents to gain citizen ship.

6) The US has a quota system that allows X-number of people from various countries to legally/lawfully obtain citizenship. Prospective citizens get on lists in their respective countries. When their number comes up, they come over--LEGALLY. Some countries, like Mexico and the Phillipines have so many wanting to come here that the wait is 10-15+ YEARS. So, at least in the case of the Mexicans, its faster to just cross illegally.

 

[deadboi77 10+ year member]

Actualy,after futher reading #2 and 3 are wrong.