Breaking news. Lesnar Vs Carwin

[Ninja Primate 10+ year member]

Hes not skilled at all. Only reason he beat Mir was because he pushed him down and pretty much sat on him. Only reason he beat Couture was because hes a ***** and couldnt keep it on his feet.

 

[jerseysfinest08]

NP, Les is far from unskilled. The dude was a college wrestling phenomenon, record was something stupid like 114-2. Now he's beaten two great UFC heavyweights.
He's against... a dude that fought 10 scrubs and surprise KO'd one good fighter. Remember Matt Serra beat GSP once and we know how long his reign lasted.

WOAH dont hug lesnars nuts too tight now. wrestling and mma are different people dont see that, yes its a very good record but he most likely had the same weight advantages, and herring is hardly a challenge to anyone in the hw division mir n couture are the only good fighters he has fought. lesnars boxing is terrible and he doesnt even wrestle its just schoolyard fighting he knows hes heavier and carwin is gonna be his gamekiller, hes gonna get desperate and shoot over and over i wouldnt be suprised if he gets put in a rear ***** from the sprawl. i dont think any champion has been as untalented as lesnar since sylvia just got lucky to the championship, silva says he wants to move up to hw and i believe he would do good because he is insane unlike big boy lesnar who just lays there and pounds on you over and over

 

[plugitin 5,000+ posts]

forgive me for not reading everything. Lesnar had no skills when he first got in mma. As stated above, nobody could move his ***, very true. But he has improved a lot, every fight he has gotten better. Same thing with kimbo slice, he sucks. But he's in the ultimate fighter. And i think with the right training like he's going to get, he is going to be good and a force.

 

[armitank]

forgive me for not reading everything. Lesnar had no skills when he first got in mma. As stated above, nobody could move his ***, very true. But he has improved a lot, every fight he has gotten better. Same thing with kimbo slice, he sucks. But he's in the ultimate fighter. And i think with the right training like he's going to get, he is going to be good and a force.

ncaa champ wrastler? 3 time wwf world chasmpion:crap:

im wreckerd right npw

 

[4OZGLOVES 10+ year member]

NP, Les is far from unskilled. The dude was a college wrestling phenomenon, record was something stupid like 114-2. Now he's beaten two great UFC heavyweights.
He's against... a dude that fought 10 scrubs and surprise KO'd one good fighter. Remember Matt Serra beat GSP once and we know how long his reign lasted.

Josh koscheck was a d1 national champion wrestler also who went undefeated in his college carreer.................then a canuck who never wrestled in college or high school threw him around the cage like a ragdoll for 25 minutes.MMA aint boxing and 1 specific skill set wont keep the belt on your waist for long. Look at all of the champions right now,all of them are very well diverse in their skill sets.

BJ..great hands phenomenal flexibility and ju-jitsu

G.S.P the man does it all well

Silva.. Has looked unbeatable for 5 years now

machida.. The exception to the rule,has good ju-jitsu but his karate is on such a high level he never gets hit and counters as well as a pro boxer.

Lesner...Freak big,freak strong,Not that good at anything else.Wont last long

with the exeption of machida who needs a little more time to defeat more light heavyweights,all the people on the list will be hall of famers one day,The jury is still out on brock though I think after carwin Ko's him it's really gonna hurt him mentally and he will never fully recover from it.Once again this is only my opinion but i've met,fought,and trained many people in my life and Brock seems to be one of those alpha male's that after he gets beat bad he never will be the same.....ala tim sylvia

 

[SomeGuyDude 10+ year member]

"after Carwin ko's him"

What on earth makes you think Carwin will win? If Brock is unproven, Carwin's a rank amateur. He's almost the exact same as Kimbo: looks great because all he fought were nobodies. If it weren't for that Gonzaga win he wouldn't even be getting a second glance.

Lesnar's already lost, and all it did was piss him off and make him train harder. The dude is dominant, and Carwin's gonna be exposed for the flash in the pan he is. I can understand if you don't think Lesnar's all that, but there is NOTHING to make anyone think Carwin's any good. Throw someone like Barnett or Fedor's little brother at Brock and he'll get whomped. Shane Carwin? That's a joke.

 

[4OZGLOVES 10+ year member]

Brock's stand-up and head movement is very bad.Granted if he can put carwin on his back and hold him there for a bit he most likely will end it,but if brock go's for 1 shot and gets stuffed he is gonna have to put up or shut up in the stand up game.Brock got hit in the mouth a couple times by randy but shrugged it off mostly,Randy sure aint a puncher,either is mir either is herring,this is the first fight brock has to be worried that one good right hand and his belt is gone. Shane carwin has devastating punching power a well established wrestling carreer and is almost as big as brock,this fight is tailor made for carwin's coming out party. Shane has to worry about getting bullied held down and gnp'd into submission which can be be a bit of a proccess,but brock has to worry that in a split second after a stuffed takedown he could be unconsious.Carwin is the heaviest striker in the heavyweight division right now.

 

[SomeGuyDude 10+ year member]

Two things:

1) Carwin's wrestling career is pathetic compared to Brock's. Did you forget that Brock was NCAA Div I champion and won the Big 10 twice? Carwin was Division II. Brock's college wrestling record was 106-5.

2) Carwin fights at about 250. Brock weighs over 280 and diets down to get under the UFC's 265 pound limit.

Yes, Carwin impressed people with his series of quick knockouts, but again, except for his Gonzaga fight they were all basically cans. It's like counting Kimbo's street fight record. I'm not saying Lesnar's the best HW ever or anything, just that Carwin's one of those guys that's gonna get humbled FAST when he's up against someone bigger and stronger than him for once.

The ONLY thing Brock has to look out for is Shane's really good right hand. But I have a feeling Gonzaga just underestimated him like GSP did with Serra.

 

[4OZGLOVES 10+ year member]

Two things:
1) Carwin's wrestling career is pathetic compared to Brock's. Did you forget that Brock was NCAA Div I champion and won the Big 10 twice? Carwin was Division II. Brock's college wrestling record was 106-5.

2) Carwin fights at about 250. Brock weighs over 280 and diets down to get under the UFC's 265 pound limit.

Yes, Carwin impressed people with his series of quick knockouts, but again, except for his Gonzaga fight they were all basically cans. It's like counting Kimbo's street fight record. I'm not saying Lesnar's the best HW ever or anything, just that Carwin's one of those guys that's gonna get humbled FAST when he's up against someone bigger and stronger than him for once.

The ONLY thing Brock has to look out for is Shane's really good right hand. But I have a feeling Gonzaga just underestimated him like GSP did with Serra.

Golf clap for you understanding mma it's rare I have a brock lesner discussion on here that doesnt end with OMGWTFROFLECOPTER brock is the greatest fighter ever..........Fedor who?

I know about brocks wrestling career,And I do respect his natural talent and speed. I just think brock is gonna do exactly what sherk tried to do with penn and try to stand and trade so everybody doesnt think he is this one dimensional monster,and in the time he is out trying to prove that he is gonna eat that filthy right hand of Carwin and go to sleep.

 

[Korn4Life 5,000+ posts]

Two things:
1) Carwin's wrestling career is pathetic compared to Brock's. Did you forget that Brock was NCAA Div I champion and won the Big 10 twice? Carwin was Division II. Brock's college wrestling record was 106-5.

2) Carwin fights at about 250. Brock weighs over 280 and diets down to get under the UFC's 265 pound limit.

Yes, Carwin impressed people with his series of quick knockouts, but again, except for his Gonzaga fight they were all basically cans. It's like counting Kimbo's street fight record. I'm not saying Lesnar's the best HW ever or anything, just that Carwin's one of those guys that's gonna get humbled FAST when he's up against someone bigger and stronger than him for once.

The ONLY thing Brock has to look out for is Shane's really good right hand. But I have a feeling Gonzaga just underestimated him like GSP did with Serra.

Do you not know that Carwin has a pretty nice college record himself

Record: 11-0

Height: 6'2

Weight: 265 lbs

Style: Wrestler/Striker

2004 Western State College Hall of Fame Inductee for Football and Wrestling

2000-2004 Assistant Wrestling Coach Colorado School of Mines.

1999 NCAA II Heavyweight National Champion, Academic All-American

1998 Senior Bowl, Lead North in tackles

1997 NCAA II 1st Team All-American Football

1997 NCAA II Heavyweight National Runner-up

1997 Academic All-American

1996 RMAC Player of the Year

1996 NCAA II Heavyweight National Runner-up

1996 NCAA II All-American Football

1996 Academic All-American

Shane Carwin gained success both as an athlete, and a student. Shane went to Western State where he was a 3x NCAA Division 2 National Finalist, and a National Champion wrestler. He was also a 2x All-American in Football, the 1996 RMAC Football Player of the year, was invited to participate in the 1998 Senior Bowl as a linebacker, and also participated in the Indianapolis Combine. Shane was also a 3x Academic All-American. After graduating from Western State, he completed his 2nd degree at Colorado School of Mines where he was an assistant wrestling coach for 2 years. He then began his career in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA). In MMA Shane has made fast progress with a record of 11-0 and all wins coming by 1st round stoppages. He just recently got signed to a multi fight deal with the Ultimate Fighting Championship where he won his debut with a 44 second knockout. Shane is married to his wife Lani and has a son named Kamden.

 

[Korn4Life 5,000+ posts]

plus his record is something like

152-20

 

[jerseysfinest08]

ncaa champ wrastler? 3 time wwf world chasmpion:crap:
im wreckerd right npw

your an idiot wwe does not count any idiot can do it

"after Carwin ko's him"
What on earth makes you think Carwin will win? If Brock is unproven, Carwin's a rank amateur. He's almost the exact same as Kimbo: looks great because all he fought were nobodies. If it weren't for that Gonzaga win he wouldn't even be getting a second glance.

Lesnar's already lost, and all it did was piss him off and make him train harder. The dude is dominant, and Carwin's gonna be exposed for the flash in the pan he is. I can understand if you don't think Lesnar's all that, but there is NOTHING to make anyone think Carwin's any good. Throw someone like Barnett or Fedor's little brother at Brock and he'll get whomped. Shane Carwin? That's a joke.

lesnars loss was by a submission not by a KO he hasn't been ko'ed yet and it will screw him up mentally, hes gonna go into this fight like last time shows no respect towards the other fighter and is gonna get caught and ktfo. lesnar is way too cocky for only being 4-1. And your statement about josh barnett and aleksander emelianenko is idotic both have a better stand up and ground game, neither are smaller like randy or mir were and cant be tossed around as much. go on sherdog and try arguing and see how many people will flame you

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

Lesnar has no skill. Hes just a middle school playground bully. Pushes them down and sits on them. Nobody can move his fat ***.

Seems to be very effective, so in a sense "that" is his skill //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif And anyone who steps into the ring with him has the opportunity to knock his *** out, so why aren't they //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

I find him rather entertaining and that's why I watch MMA...

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Wow.....your lack of knowlage when it comes to the fight game is immense. Fedor might have pissed me off a bit by not coming to the ufc but to call him a pud,He is the best mma heavyweight to ever live. He has one loss which was from an illegal elbow.
Who the fvck has brock beat. Some freak tall gook who cant fight,A well past prime frank mir,A 45 year old puffed up 205'er in randy,and heath herring who hasn't done sh1t in years. Shane carwin would have dominated cain even if cain didnt get hurt. I dont hate brock but in no way think he deserved the title shot he got.

I will right now call brock wont make it past the second round. As soon as carwin lands one of those bricks to the side of brocks head it's over. Carwin is also a college champion wrestler and on fight night might come in about 20 lbs lighter than brock which aint much.Brock's head movement is terrible and if shane can sprawl on one take down attempt and keep it standing Brock will have a bad day.

Lesnar never fought Chow and if it wasnt for Chow sitting straight up he would have destroyed Fedor.

 

[4OZGLOVES 10+ year member]

your an idiot wwe does not count any idiot can do it


lesnars loss was by a submission not by a KO he hasn't been ko'ed yet and it will screw him up mentally, hes gonna go into this fight like last time shows no respect towards the other fighter and is gonna get caught and ktfo. lesnar is way too cocky for only being 4-1. And your statement about josh barnett and aleksander emelianenko is idotic both have a better stand up and ground game, neither are smaller like randy or mir were and cant be tossed around as much. go on sherdog and try arguing and see how many people will flame you

Thank you. I don't think people understand how much of a mental beating you take from being knocked out. It will really affect you and I don't think brock has the mental strength to pop back ,he just seems to think he will always just be able to bully people around and still has that thought in his head that he is just to much for anyone.I can already forsee him getting knocked out soon,once again he has never fought a true puncher.Time will tell though,he may run right through Carwin but Shane is the most dangerous fighter by far he has been in the ring with.(from a power standpoint)