Bigbangtheory........?

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened."

- Douglas Adams

i'm not sure i understand that one bit, you have to explain it to me better. What is the theory called?

 
Life on earth is possible because the conditions to support life are perfect.


There is nothing complex about plants growing, it's called photosynthesis, and we feel emotions because that is how we as a society have been raised. Human emotion as slowly progessed from caveman times to now.

There is no god. You show me proof, and I will believe. Human life is possible on earth because the position in relation to the sun is perfect for life form. Mars can support life as well as many other planets in the universe, you cannot say earth is the only planet in the entire universe that has life on it. If god really existed and "loves" us, why would he/she let people die? I'm not talking about murderers or rapists, but people like the pope or priests, people that WORSHIP god. I think the belief in god was created by humans a looooooooooooong time ago to create an explanation for why we are here, you know, before science proved why we are here.
I'll try to explain some things that you asked. First off, Christians believe God created everything, and he also created man in the "likeness" of himself. If you know anything about Human nature/Satan, you would know from the first book of the Bible (Genesis) that Humans sadly have a sinful nature. We were doomed from the start. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif . When Satan was cast out of heaven by God, he went to hell, along with some of his followers. The answer to the "Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people", is a toughie. The only answer I can logically come up with (Im no preacher), is that Satan ultimately has a large part in Earth, and all the crap that goes on it. Yes, God Can control it, and hell if i dont know why he doesn't stop a lot of the crap that goes on. I think we as a human race have strayed away from the main reason God created us, which was to worship him. Trust me, as a believer, I get extremely frustrated when I see children starving, and people dieing for no reason. But I also "know" in my heart, that there is a higher power, that we are here for a reason, and because i believe that, i "trust" or have "faith" that God exists.

 
I think lack of moral values and people's use of that term point more to breaking a golden social rule (also in the bible, but found in almost all religions due to its poignancy) Do unto others...... people are just too self-centered it seems. With this narcisisism you have a total break down of the social bonds that the human species requires to prosper.....not that we need it, we've over stayed our welcome on this planet imo.)
Certainly the golden rule is the cornerstone of morality, and the part that is missed is the "do onto" part. For example, I don't think things like polygamy or gay marriage are about morality, because they aren't doing anything harmful to an unwilling party. We must be extremely cautious about invented morality, where someone says that something is wrong because they disapprove of it (often without logical backing), and then this version of morality gets passed down for centuries...and now you have indoctrinated beliefs which were false from the beginning.

With respect to the "state of morality", mistreatment was almost always worse in the past if you look at it sociologically and historically. That is why we have had class revolutions, slavery abolition, and any number of other problems. The problems people have with morality now are things that people are discovering aren't about morality at all. It's not immoral to do drugs, or to have *** with 1000's of men, or anything of that nature. Sure, it might be a bit excessive, but there is nothing inherently immoral about excess (and if it were, then we have always been immoral because there is nothing humans love more than excess). The moral causes of late are mostly invented. Sure, there are problem areas, but morality in general has improved by leaps and bounds with each passing year, particularly in developed countries. And I believe that, if we can help raise the standard of living for them, the developing countries will see similar improvements (and some already have).

 
I post these every thread talking about what is known as the "Problem of Evil" with hopes that someone new will see them, and find them provocative:

If God is willing to prevent evil, but is not able toThen He is not omnipotent.

If He is able, but not willing

Then He is malevolent.

If He is both able and willing

Then whence cometh evil?

If He is neither able nor willing

Then why call Him God?
Or as summarized by Lactantius:

God either wants to eliminate bad things and cannot, or can but does not want to, or neither wishes to nor can, or both wants to and can. If he wants to and cannot, then he is weak - and this does not apply to god. If he can but does not want to, then he is spiteful - which is equally foreign to god's nature. If he neither wants to nor can, he is both weak and spiteful, and so not a god. If he wants to and can, which is the only thing fitting for a god, where then do bad things come from? Or why does he not eliminate them?
 
Certainly the golden rule is the cornerstone of morality, and the part that is missed is the "do onto" part. For example, I don't think things like polygamy or gay marriage are about morality, because they aren't doing anything harmful to an unwilling party. We must be extremely cautious about invented morality, where someone says that something is wrong because they disapprove of it (often without logical backing), and then this version of morality gets passed down for centuries...and now you have indoctrinated beliefs which were false from the beginning.
With respect to the "state of morality", mistreatment was almost always worse in the past if you look at it sociologically and historically. That is why we have had class revolutions, slavery abolition, and any number of other problems. The problems people have with morality now are things that people are discovering aren't about morality at all. It's not immoral to do drugs, or to have *** with 1000's of men, or anything of that nature. Sure, it might be a bit excessive, but there is nothing inherently immoral about excess (and if it were, then we have always been immoral because there is nothing humans love more than excess). The moral causes of late are mostly invented. Sure, there are problem areas, but morality in general has improved by leaps and bounds with each passing year, particularly in developed countries. And I believe that, if we can help raise the standard of living for them, the developing countries will see similar improvements (and some already have).

You make some good points there, everyone is out to "push" their views onto others..... which in itself is immoral. I just people would be more aware that they are not the only SOBs on this rock, and be polite for fucks sake //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 
I'll try to explain some things that you asked. First off, Christians believe God created everything, and he also created man in the "likeness" of himself. If you know anything about Human nature/Satan, you would know from the first book of the Bible (Genesis) that Humans sadly have a sinful nature. We were doomed from the start. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif . When Satan was cast out of heaven by God, he went to hell, along with some of his followers. The answer to the "Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people", is a toughie. The only answer I can logically come up with (Im no preacher), is that Satan ultimately has a large part in Earth, and all the crap that goes on it. Yes, God Can control it, and hell if i dont know why he doesn't stop a lot of the crap that goes on. I think we as a human race have strayed away from the main reason God created us, which was to worship him. Trust me, as a believer, I get extremely frustrated when I see children starving, and people dieing for no reason. But I also "know" in my heart, that there is a higher power, that we are here for a reason, and because i believe that, i "trust" or have "faith" that God exists.
i have faith that there is a god as well, but it all seems like a big fairy tale if you ask me. There is most likely no god, because if god is real, then why are the sick people in in africa and other countries here? Don't tell me god just puts them on earth to suffer, that would be just plain stupid. Like, is it really there fate to just starve and suffer until they die a slow and painful death? As i get older, i am starting to believe less in god, and believe more in evolution.

It is easier to try and prove that god doesn't exist, than prove he does exists. And it's not even a close comparison.

 
Well god and religion are two different arguments. The idea that god intervenes is a specific religious argument. The most logical instance of a god is the creator god, which doesn't necessarily require worship, judgement, etc.

 
religion is inconsistent. It doesn't make any sense and it is for those who have nothing better to think of other than claim that god is real to make them feel better about life. If you are like me, and you think outside the box, then you will clearly see that the chances really aren't that great that there is a god, although it would be a good thing if there were. if god is real, then there would be more to his story than inconsistent stories that sound like a fairy tale because he would never be heard of if none of these stories existed. Think about a world where there was never a mention of god nor religion, it would take god out of the equation. I still don't know where gods name first came from, please don't tell me it originated from the bible because there is no way of the bible being proven real.

 
Society is still in the process of understanding that it is the motivation rather than the act itself that determines the morality of said act.

For example, I don't think things like polygamy or gay marriage are about morality, because they aren't doing anything harmful to an unwilling party.
But you must first argue that only acts that harm an unwilling party are immoral.

We must be extremely cautious about invented morality, where someone says that something is wrong because they disapprove of it (often without logical backing), and then this version of morality gets passed down for centuries...and now you have indoctrinated beliefs which were false from the beginning.
What morality has not been invented (and has a logical backing)?

 
I post these every thread talking about what is known as the "Problem of Evil" with hopes that someone new will see them, and find them provocative:


Or as summarized by Lactantius:
Interesting to hear man standing in judgment of God. Lamenting that the world does not operate the way he thinks it should, assuming that god must not exist because god does not do what he expects god should do. Superior intellect, superior folly.

 
i have faith that there is a god as well, but it all seems like a big fairy tale if you ask me. There is most likely no god, because if god is real, then why are the sick people in in africa and other countries here? Don't tell me god just puts them on earth to suffer, that would be just plain stupid. Like, is it really there fate to just starve and suffer until they die a slow and painful death? As i get older, i am starting to believe less in god, and believe more in evolution.
It is easier to try and prove that god doesn't exist, than prove he does exists. And it's not even a close comparison.

You just contradicted yourself in the first two sentences.

Just because the world is not full of happiness, wealth, equality, and we don't live forever doesn't mean there is no god. And if it was, that wouldn't mean there is one.

 
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