Bass dB and hearing loss

I have permanent hearing loss. My highs drop off fast over about 6K. I also have tinitus, a constant high pitched whine, in both ears. I can tell you that it affects my life negatively and I wouldn't wish it on a broke dik dog.

For me it was exposure to woodworking machinery in my own shop. Router, planer, jointer, table saw. Not continuous either, just what is typical of a weekend hobbiest. Plus maybe some concerts (Grand Funk, Deep Purple) where my ears rang for a couple days afterward...

The numbers are well published by OSHA and others. It's a time vs exposure thing. And yes, bass frequencies can hurt you too.

Don't mess with your hearing, friends. It really sux when it goes away.

 
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Any of your 5 senses can go at any time,its all a 50/50 shot daily,anything can happen.You have to decide for yourself if you want to take chances,even driving to work, you could have a wreck and be fine, or it could be fatal? Its all a 50/50,and if you go further, your chances are less you know?It is all up to you, and your choices for your body, and what you except, and what limitations you set.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

 
lol you doubt it look at his sig. Anyways I don't know how he doesn't have hearing loss if those numbers are on music. I noticed a difference and I hit a 143 and some change at 32hz. I think the hearing loss takes time to kick in but overtime you will notice.
Yea its on music I peak at 35hz so maybe the lower frequency is the reason? I could be wrong tho i could have minor hearing loss but I just don't notice yet. I only been doing this stuff for two years tho and it probably takes time.

 

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perhaps the vibration is knocking all that aged earwax loose from your dirty crusty ears?
Yupp my old 23y/o man ears lol

 
My hearing has definitely gotten worse, but im pretty sure its from the Rage Against the Machine concert back in 2008 when they played to protest the RNC and not the bass. Loud sound just isnt good for your hearing in general, but the way i see it is by the time im 40 and def, the hearing aid technology will be so advanced i wont mind wearing one haha

 
you know, wearing a hearing aide to make things louder later can possibly perpetuate the damage, though they may have built-in tech for that. anyways. i get my hearing checked periodically at the mine, and get to see my results. one thing that got me, is that my hearing went from perfect, to "virtually perfect". a cold, or whatever, but i religiously wear hearing protection at work, no matter. the principal rule of thumb, is when you have good hearing, then if you can feel it (pain) it is your natural signal to tell you it is too loud, and there is damage going on, just the same way any pain signal works in your body. there are 2 things that happen when you loose hearing. first, you can kill the nerve, as everybody knows, and second, the nerve fibers can be laid over, where they can stick. the usually pop back up, not always right away, and sometimes they are stuck permanently, not picking up vibrations as they should. what makes things worse, is that the more the fibers are damaged, the less they will tell you "too loud". also, your brain is constantly adjusting. as the damage is done, then the range of signal changes, and your brain will adjust the sensitivity, kind of like turning up the gain. you may think the hearing is getting better, but it is not, and when you age, the damage is still there, so, 10, 20, 30 years later, when your body is no longer healing, your brain is also setting back to "stock" position, and the damaged fibers are starting to degrade sooner. kind of like the high-school knee injury that comes back as you degrade. i am very protective of my hearing. even with the large systems since i was about 18 and even not so strictly when younger, i made sure to use hearing protection, and have it on hand. you used to always see gas filled canal caps hanging from the shifter or mirror in my cars and trucks. i actually do listen to older people. 2 of the biggest things guys always regret are "not taking care of my hearing" and "not taking care of my back".

so, there are different length nerve fibers that are responsible for different frequencies. it evades my mind certainty of which, but i'm pretty sure it is the shorter fibers that take care of the lower frequencies (oh, and when one is damaged, your mind can pick up the frequency from the next fiber) i speculate that the shorter fibers can handle more than 120db, however, all fibers are receiving the same level of vibration in the same shared chamber, so the bass can still damage the fibers of higher frequency. typically, it is higher frequencies of hearing loss that occurs, regardless of the source.

another factor- the numbing vibration of bass, can mask the pain of hearing damage, more particularly, when you have 140db going on, and you need the mids and highs to match, you may not feel just how loud and damaging they have to be to keep up and sound clean and clear. if you don't care that much about what you are doing, or don't believe me. go ahead and crank it up with the mids to match, but un-seamingly too loud. pause the song, without touching any settings, and disable your subs, and resume. you will notice, more-so with a few min between, that your mids and highs are obnoxiously screaming at your brain. my advise, though- gat yourself some nice, comfortable, and aesthetically pleasing caps, or plugs, etc, protection, and keep them in there. really what you want is to feel the bass, and experience it's power, no sense in subjecting your ears to levels higher than you can actually hear anyways. it is pretty quick that your mind adjusts and you don't even notice you have the plugs in anyways, and even easier with habit. then, if you like the show-off cool factor, many see the hearing protection, and immediately assume you get fukin loud enough that you need it. wear with pride. if someone gives you ****, respond in a normal, mild tone/level. who looks like the idiot having to repeatedly say "what?" while giving someone else **** about keeping good hearing.

 
So. I was reading about hearing loss related to the dB level of sounds. All across the board, 140dB is the point of where even short term exposure can cause permanent hearing damage.....125dB is when its painful..My question is that is that for high non bass frequencies? I mean I'm pretty sure that I've heard bass systems that are louder than 125dB, considerably louder in fact, and I don't feel pain.

It would make sense why higher pitched sounds would be painful at that volume.

I'm asking because I value my body, and that includes my hearing. I don't want to go deaf at 45 because I was being a teen trying to have a bumping system.

I'm sure for bass the dB values for hearing damage are higher...but I just want to make sure.
Most of the #'s you read online about hearing loss are based on dBA measurements.

In SPL competition, we measure based on dBC. These measurements are totally different.

Look up dBA vs dBC curves. You will understands hearing loss better.

 
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