Audiophile classifieds site?

[brandontw 10+ year member]

I remember seeing some stuff about that on here not to long ago...does anybody know what site im talking about?

If i remember right it was a site strictly for buying/selling high end stereo equipment. I was telling my dad about it and now he wants to check it out, he is in the market for a really good CD player.

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[thylantyr 10+ year member]

http://www.audiogon.com

You can get a really really good CD player for $100. You don't need to throw

away money on esoteric players. This is simple technology that is easy to

playback, it's not rocket science //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Pocket the savings and put the money into something more important,

speakers, room treatments, etc.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Good site.....

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

You can get a really really good CD player for $100. You don't need to throw

away money on esoteric players. This is simple technology that is easy to

playback, it's not rocket science //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Pocket the savings and put the money into something more important,

speakers, room treatments, etc.

Thats kind of what i was thinking too.

And also, I think if he spends a wad on his cd player, while retaining his OK reciever ( Harmon Kardon HK3475) It would just be money wasted, becasue that receiver has very limited sound processing abilities, and in my opinion is moderate at best when it comes to sound quality(i have the same one).

But anyway, if i can convince him to cheap out a little on the CD player, what is a really really good one for around 100-200$

Also, what might be a good next step in the evolution of his system?

right now he has:

Parasound HCA1500 amp

Harmon Kardon HK3475 reciever

Some kenwood 5 disk changer for cd player

B&W 601's speakers (although he is using my line arrays right now)

No preamp

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

Last year I bought a universal DVD player from Samsung that cost me

$126 shipped and it plays all the formats. I'm unable to find any SQ issues with

low cost universal players. This is simple technology, it shouldn't be expensive.

20 years ago, I'd offer a different opinion, but not today.

The first thing I'd look into is to determine if your are driving your

speakers well with the amp. Does that amp have bridging capability ?

If so, I'd bridge it and run one speaker cabinet mono to see if the extra

power does more justice to the speakers. If he likes the bridged mode

operation and extra 'umph', then getting more power might be the choice.

If there is not real audible improvement in sound when you doubled the power,

then your speakers are probably are their limit and you need to look at

other issues to improve the sound.

You can buy whatever CD player you want just to get rid of the Kenwood

brand and get something more interesting, but I'd try to find out what

is the problem with the sound system by interogating him. What does he want

more? Perhaps the speakers in relation to your line array has opened up

his imaginination as to what is possible with speaker design. I'd take him

to the high end store to audition speakers only and find out what he likes/hate

and try to analyze the design of the good stuff.

Unless your room is vacant, I'd do the room treatments last after you figure out

the phase 1 mystery. If your room is vacant and you hear echo when you speak

in it, then you need to resolve that issue asap.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

B&W 601's speakers (although he is using my line arrays right now)

Is he looking at making the 601's his main channels or surrounds, because how much i love those little 601's I dont know how well they would preform for the mains. Unless he only wants to spend that much and only wants something small.

Also, I'm just curious but why are you buying a dedicated CD player? Just curious to see what type answers I end up with......

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

Is he looking at making the 601's his main channels or surrounds, because how much i love those little 601's I dont know how well they would preform for the mains. Unless he only wants to spend that much and only wants something small.
Also, I'm just curious but why are you buying a dedicated CD player? Just curious to see what type answers I end up with......

he already has the 601's, but he took them out and is using my line arrays until i move to a house where i can use them.

He is using the 601's for his main speakers, and he will only have two channels, he doesnt intend to have surround sound or anything. The speakers are definately limiting him, becasue the same amp used on my line arrays is plenty of power. and we have already determined that those speakers are overpowered by his amp.

That list i put was stuff he already has.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

..delete

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Waaaaah my solid uranium core Einsteineum-free speaker wire is better than your platinum forged 10,000 stranded billet speaker interconnects.

/audiogon

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Oh yea??? How about you just use gold it's still the best conductor....

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Cute.....

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Oh yea??? How about you just use gold it's still the best conductor....

IIRC, silver has less resistance? I remember reading that in my physics book. Maybe it's copper, but I don't think gold was first. Lemme check.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Bam:

Conductor materials
Of the metals commonly used for conductors, copper has the highest conductivity. Silver is more conductive, but due to cost it is not practical except as a thin plating to mitigate skin effect losses at high frequencies. Because of its ease of connection by soldering or clamping, copper is still the most common choice for most light-gauge wires.

Compared to copper, aluminium has worse conductivity per unit volume, but better conductivity per unit weight. In many cases, weight is more important than volume making aluminium the 'best' conductor material for certain applications. For example, it is commonly used for large-scale power distribution conductors such as overhead power lines. In many such cases, aluminium is used over a steel core that provides much greater tensile strength than would the aluminium alone [1][2].

Gold is occasionally used for very fine wires such as those used to wire bond integrated circuits to their lead frames. The contacts in electrical connectors are also commonly gold plated or gold flashed (over nickel). Contrary to popular belief, this is not done because gold is a better conductor; it isn't. Instead, it is done because gold is very resistant to the surface corrosion that is commonly suffered by copper, silver, or tin/lead alloys. This corrosion would have a very detrimental effect on connection quality over time; gold-plating avoids that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conductor_(material)

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

No shit...... Guess you learn something new everyday.....

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Geah. Still, I always buy gold connectors. They may not be technologically superior, but they still look sweeter.