Anyone looking for a deal on cables?

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I rock Dayton audio...I am teh poors.

 

[wu501 10+ year member]

lol...amazing deal. I might have to buy some.

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

I know there is major discussion on what speaker wire adds (or doesn't add) to a stereo system. There has even been situations where people have used clothes hangers against multi-thousand dollar systems.

I think to really need a set of high end cables you really have to know the sytem your listening too. Does it change the sound, honest I believe yes. But only if you knew the way it was before. Placebo effect? Sure, that plays in too. Then again I want to feel great about every purchase so however I have to justify it is ok with me LOL.

I don't own a pair of high end cables, but I do see some benefits. I'm trying to find my stereophile article where the measurements changed from cables. Awhile back, so I have to dig it up.

With our economy, I doubt anyone is spending this much on something like cables. Not to mention that if they can afford to cut that much off the price, what type of mark-up is there?

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

And guys dog me about Critical Mass!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

'look daddy, that man's not wearing any clothes' --the emporer's new clothes.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

With our economy, I doubt anyone is spending this much on something like cables.

You'd be surprised //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I'm sure that there are cables out there that make a difference in sound - if you change a cable's LCR (inductance, capacitance and resistance) parameters enough, it'll act like a filter. But where people lose me is a) getting defensive about objectively measuring the cables, claiming sound is based off of properties we don't know of or can't measure yet and b) saying that measurements don't make a difference at all //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

You'd be surprised //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
I'm sure that there are cables out there that make a difference in sound - if you change a cable's LCR (inductance, capacitance and resistance) parameters enough, it'll act like a filter. But where people lose me is a) getting defensive about objectively measuring the cables, claiming sound is based off of properties we don't know of or can't measure yet and b) saying that measurements don't make a difference at all //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I was trying to be as neutral as possible Just didn't want to start up the age old debate of do cables matter.

If I could afford higher end cables, I would buy them.

 

[hayden 10+ year member]

It might have been this company that someone used as an example of overpriced "audio jewelry" (it is on the net somewhere). They bought a few of their products and cut open these "magic" cables and found: nothing unusual! They were simply standard audio and power cables with thick rubber and poly jackets that made them "look" high-end.

Copper is copper.

JP

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

It might have been this company that someone used as an example of overpriced "audio jewelry" (it is on the net somewhere). They bought a few of their products and cut open these "magic" cables and found: nothing unusual! They were simply standard audio and power cables with thick rubber and poly jackets that made them "look" high-end.
Copper is copper.

JP

I believe some of that...but copper is not copper. Copper is actually my main commodity that I buy for work and believe me buying 3N5 copper is not the same as buying 6N copper. Ultra-high end copper (at least for the sputtering industry) has so many specifications. One of the primary is Oxygen.

 

[hayden 10+ year member]

I believe some of that...but copper is not copper. Copper is actually my main commodity that I buy for work and believe me buying 3N5 copper is not the same as buying 6N copper. Ultra-high end copper (at least for the sputtering industry) has so many specifications. One of the primary is Oxygen.

True, you are correct. What I meant to say was that any copper that a reputable company sells as speaker/interconnect wire should be no different (acoustically) than any other. The most rabid fans of "cable sound" differences tend to be the folks who also buy cable/wire elevators made of foam and ceramic, and buy "tuning" stones and wood blocks. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif The companies who sell common cable/wire dressed up to look expensive are out to do one thing - make tons of money from people who have it to burn. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/greedy.gif.5a53e6246569d7ab79867170f3b06629.gif

JP