Anyone follow the government conspiracy type stuff?

[stl_style 10+ year member]

+ I've had a couple too many Natty Ice:laugh:

 

[MmatsDude 10+ year member]

i hate people who act like they know whether a conspiracy is real or not. It's not that easy to debunk one guys, stop acting like you know it all. Look at crop circles, i have heard so many friends and people that have told me there is no way they can be real, but seriously, do they really know? The same thing goes for the towers, just because you don't think that fuel isn't hot enough to burn the steel in the building, it very well could have been. You don't know, maybe there was something flammable inside or something, maybe the building was just so stressed that it had to free fall like it did. I personally don't see how it could burn for hours and then all of a sudden just free fall like that without some kind of detonation, but who am i to judge?

That is the problem with people that talk about this conspiracy theories etc. Obviously the major flaw when it comes to this arguments, is that the evidence provided does not provide support for a conclusion. There are countless more plausible conclusions that can account for these discrepancies. Maybe the world trade center collapsed so fast because another bomb was set off underneath it. Maybe the government is attempting to cover something up, perhaps an extra-marital affair by a congressman. My point is not that these answers are the correct answers, but only that these answers, and others like it, can explain away the information people give without resorting to something as unlikely as what they are proposing

Now you have the evidence pointing to a terrorist attack on 9-11 is evidence that points directly to a terrorist attack. Osama Bin Laden has been filmed taking responsibility. The passengers aboard the plane that went down in Pennsylvania left messages stating that the plane had been hijacked by terrorists. However, the evidence that points to a conspiracy theory is not direct evidence of a conspiracy. It is evidence that may lead to a conspiracy. It is evidence that attempts to deny the evidence that points to a terrorist attack. But it does not directly support a conspiracy.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

One question to pose before I go to bed. I was stationed in Tikrit Iraq Blackhawk battalion 2/4 Aviation 4th Infantry Division. Why is it we can find a man in a country 10 times the size of Afghanistan with all his faithful followers trying to hide him, but we can't go to a small *** country like afghan and find a dumbass in the mountains with small arms and a **** platoon as an army

Just for fun, why don't you take a stab at why that may be the case. Really, try to come up with at least two reaons why that would be the case.

 

[ric flair 10+ year member]

That is the problem with people that talk about this conspiracy theories etc. Obviously the major flaw when it comes to this arguments, is that the evidence provided does not provide support for a conclusion. There are countless more plausible conclusions that can account for these discrepancies. Maybe the world trade center collapsed so fast because another bomb was set off underneath it. Maybe the government is attempting to cover something up, perhaps an extra-marital affair by a congressman. My point wasn't that these answers are the correct answers, but only that these answers, and others like it, can explain away the information people give without resorting to something as unlikely as what they are proposing
Now you have the evidence pointing to a terrorist attack on 9-11 is evidence that points directly to a terrorist attack. Osama Bin Laden has been filmed taking responsibility. The passengers aboard the plane that went down in Pennsylvania left messages stating that the plane had been hijacked by terrorists. However, the evidence that points to a conspiracy theory is not direct evidence of a conspiracy. It is evidence that may lead to a conspiracy. It is evidence that attempts to deny the evidence that points to a terrorist attack. But it does not directly support a conspiracy.

well, if that is the case, then osama did do it. No conspiracy

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

Have you seen the geographical difference in the two countries? It's gonna be **** near impossible to find anyone in Afghanistan.
Finding Saddam was pure luck, some specialist was doing a foot patrol and stumbled onto a trap door.

Also, it doesn't matter who I voted for. But if you had read anything by me beforehand you wouldn't have to ask.

Well I would have to disagree with you sir. It;s much easier to find a person in open land that an urban enviornment regardless of mountains or not. I was In tikrit when Sadaam was found in Tikrit North right off Route 1 His home town not far from camp speicker where I was stationed. We paid his so called faithful followers to give up his position. Guess that old time saying applies money talks and bullshit walks:laugh: A couple pilots in my battalion took a pic by the hole where they found him. we could literaly still hear the birds in the air when they went to pick him up, that's how close he was to camp speiker.

 

[bunkerking09 10+ year member]

Well I would have to disagree with you sir. It;s much easier to find a person in open land that an urban enviornment regardless of mountains or not. I was In tikrit when Sadaam was found in Tikrit North right off Route 1 His home town not far from camp speicker where I was stationed. We paid his so called faithful followers to give up his position. Guess that old time saying applies money talks and bullshit walks:laugh: A couple pilots in my battalion took a pic by the hole where they found him. we could literaly still hear the birds in the air when they went to pick him up, that's how close he was to camp speiker.

i understand the urban environment thing, but those mountains are ridiculous, thats so much land man.

and i could understand why he was so close. I would stay somewhere if it was close enough they wouldn't look. think of it like hide and seek. how many people would look in the same room they were counting in? not many

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Well I would have to disagree with you sir. It;s much easier to find a person in open land that an urban enviornment regardless of mountains or not. .

WTF are you talking about? Seriously, explain the relevance of that statement.

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

Just for fun, why don't you take a stab at why that may be the case. Really, try to come up with at least two reaons why that would be the case.

Well I'm no theorist, nor do I have any evidence proving anything, but I will just take a shot at this conspiracy theory just for you deer sir, and after, I expect a full apology for that bull shit comment you made about not respecting me for what ever reason. Bin ladden is a poster boy for fear, fear is a way of controling people, the most profound way. For what ever reason this terrorist attack struck our great country and our government wanted to redirect the aggression on what ever soft target they could capitolize on the most, hint "Capitolism" is what drives this great country. Bush receives proceeds from fossil fuels, and I think these people were either cutting in to his profits or it was a deal gone bad. A nut shell, bush stole from these people. How is it that these people have been living in well established socitieis hundreds of years before there was ever an america. All of a sudden they hate americans? This country has been voulnerable many times in the past. THey could have taken this country over many times like they did italy and spain, they, meaning the (Muslims) "Moors" (European word for dark, black) I beleive Bin ladden is a member of the Bush party and he is a mere image to correspond with evil aggression the americans have. Some what of a vent, someone has to be blamed.

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

WTF are you talking about? Seriously, explain the relevance of that statement.

Well good sir, i was giving a rebuttle to the young man stating the terrrain of afghanistan is prohibiting american forces from finding bin laden. I should have spell checked. Don't know where all this aggression is coming from, but you should really calm down. this is a forum and if your offended by what is said turn the **** cpu off and take your *** to bed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[oldschool4me 10+ year member]

interesting

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

i understand the urban environment thing, but those mountains are ridiculous, thats so much land man.
and i could understand why he was so close. I would stay somewhere if it was close enough they wouldn't look. think of it like hide and seek. how many people would look in the same room they were counting in? not many

Yeah you got it, not only that but. He mainly had followers in Tikrit his home town. Most of the proceedes from the naural resources and other crooked things were distributed in this town. So they wanted to keep him in power, not all. I spoke to many people that hated his reign, primarily because he wouldn't allow the people to educate themselves or even drive a car if you weren't in the "circle" You should have seen this shit Bro. Every 1/10th of a mile there was a big as sign of this bastard grinning, he don't want them to forget who was in charge. One wrong word spoke about of this man could get you fvcked up seriously. I'm talking signs in the most remote places in the desert, imagine.

 

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[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Well I'm no theorist, nor do I have any evidence proving anything, but I will just take a shot at this conspiracy theory just for you deer sir, and after, I expect a full apology for that bull shit comment you made about not respecting me for what ever reason. Bin ladden is a poster boy for fear, fear is a way of controling people, the most profound way. For what ever reason this terrorist attack struck our great country and our government wanted to redirect the aggression on what ever soft target they could capitolize on the most, hint "Capitolism" is what drives this great country. Bush receives proceeds from fossil fuels, and I think these people were either cutting in to his profits or it was a deal gone bad. A nut shell, bush stole from these people. How is it that these people have been living in well established socitieis hundreds of years before there was ever an america. All of a sudden they hate americans? This country has been voulnerable many times in the past. THey could have taken this country over many times like they did italy and spain, they, meaning the (Muslims) "Moors" (European word for dark, black) I beleive Bin ladden is a member of the Bush party and he is a mere image to correspond with evil aggression the americans have. Some what of a vent, someone has to be blamed.

You typed all of that and never even came close to answering the question I asked. You need some type of help. I just don't know whether that help needs to be in the form of remedial reading comprehension, psychaitric help or directions to the nearest AA meeting.

Quit posting while you are drunk. That would be a good start.

Well good sir, i was giving a rebuttle to the young man stating the terrrain of afghanistan is prohibiting american forces from finding bin laden. I should have spell checked. Don't know where all this aggression is coming from, but you should really calm down. this is a forum and if your offended by what is said turn the **** cpu off and take your *** to bed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, I hope you are very, very drunk because you can't seem to form a response that in any way relates to the post you are attempting to reply to.

BTW, you can rot in hell before I apologize to your dumbass. You are not worthy of posting on this forum and you dam sure are not worthy of wearing the uniform of this country's armed forces.

 

[bunkerking09 10+ year member]

You typed all of that and never even came close to answering the question I asked. You need some type of help. I just don't know whether that help needs to be in the form of remedial reading comprehension, psychaitric help or directions to the nearest AA meeting.
Quit posting while you are drunk. That would be a good start.

Again, I hope you are very, very drunk because you can't seem to form a response that in any way relates to the post you are attempting to reply to.

BTW, you can rot in hell before I apologize to your dumbass. You are not worthy of posting on this forum and you dam sure are not worthy of wearing the uniform of this country's armed forces.

i don't agree with everything he's saying, but come on. thats not necessary

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

I hope you feel better about yourself now. Your right I do need some remedial reading comprehension classes. Thanks for you concern, I will get right on that this semester.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

You typed all of that and never even came close to answering the question I asked. You need some type of help. I just don't know whether that help needs to be in the form of remedial reading comprehension, psychaitric help or directions to the nearest AA meeting.
Quit posting while you are drunk. That would be a good start.

Again, I hope you are very, very drunk because you can't seem to form a response that in any way relates to the post you are attempting to reply to.

BTW, you can rot in hell before I apologize to your dumbass. You are not worthy of posting on this forum and you dam sure are not worthy of wearing the uniform of this country's armed forces.