All '05 Alpine HUs have 2v outputs (exept 9855)

The 9855 looks zexy as hell, but the comparable Pioneer Premiere 860MP has 6.5V pre-outs, 24-bit Burr Brown DACs, 13-band parametric EQ... Plus the Alpine's are still limited to the Ai-Net bus, which makes that KCA-420i ipod adapter interface s-l-o-w and limits the # of songs it sees.

I've been a fan of Alpine for a loong time but I may go Pioneer this year.

 
Yep...noticed that a long time ago! Alpine is starting to show its weakness.. This is why it kinda makes me mad when everyone on here(well not everyone) always says alpine. Sure there nice but c'mon, the competition is starting to walk right by them....Especially eclipse, well i would say alpine could never compete with eclipse..but hey thats just me. But yes, Pioneer is at 6.5 volts on premiers....and actually i and my friends dad who owns a electronics shop tested them and seen the 960 to pu tou 7.2v unclipped at a little more than 75% of the volume...using 1khz sin wav. I wanna hook up a 860 because everyone on here pretty has one. But if memory serves me right the 960 has the same internals as the 860... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
To be brutally honest, unless you are super serious about how your car sounds (competing sq) I highly doubt you will really be able to tell the difference in input voltage with a decent quality amp. And line drivers really are not expensive and will put premiers to shame with voltage. Choose a HU based on how you like its features and useabiltiy, pre out voltage is not necessarily as important as everyone makes it out to be in most cases.

 
To be brutally honest, unless you are super serious about how your car sounds (competing sq) I highly doubt you will really be able to tell the difference in input voltage with a decent quality amp. And line drivers really are not expensive and will put premiers to shame with voltage. Choose a HU based on how you like its features and useabiltiy, pre out voltage is not necessarily as important as everyone makes it out to be in most cases.
Sorry, but when you spend a good chunk of change on a higher line HU you EXPECT the company to give you all the technology and specs that speak of the quality you pay for. At least in some shape or form rival that of the competition.

Although people tend to believe that Alpine going to BestBuy is not related to them dropping all the 4v models- its quite apparent- Alpine knows Bestbuy can sell

shyt on a stick in a pretty package to the masses with those weekly circulars- so on top of them profiting from that move w/ incresed sales , they felt the need to cost cut to further fatten' their pockets- thats not cool at all IMO

 
Their HU's havn't been putting out much more than 2v for the last 3 years and no one was really complaining simply because they advertised it at 4.

What they are doing it called marketing. They are being smart. The executives of that company couldn't give two shits if some peopel on an internet forum are complaining about 2v pre outs, they want more money. Go buy an eclipse...

 
The executives of that company couldn't give two shits if some peopel on an internet forum are complaining about 2v pre outs, they want more money. Go buy an eclipse...
But I don't want people throwing up in my car when they see my new eclipse. Alpines haven't put out the 4v they've claimed, now they are just coming clean about it, maybe they haven't changed anything except the specs and now its underated...

OR the'yre just money grubbing bastards like every other company.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/greedy.gif.5a53e6246569d7ab79867170f3b06629.gif:greedy://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/greedy.gif.5a53e6246569d7ab79867170f3b06629.gif:greedy:

 
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