A warning about Elemental Designs

[2nd Squad]

Hey, been lurking this board for a very long time and finally got around to registering because I wanted to post about this scam of a company called Elemental Designs.

Last month I ordered two of their Kv.2 series 15 inch subwoofers along with an enclosure and an amplifier to power them from their website.

When the amp and subs arrived everything looked as described and in good order.

The box was delivered two days later and was the first big disappointment. It didn't have a straight cut anywhere and the cuts were jagged.

After being a little heated for a bit that the box looked like garbage but did appear to actually be sealed fromm all angles (amazingly) I decided that it wouldnt be worth the cost to ship it back just for the asthetical issues it had. (i. e. it looked like crap I built when I was 7 yrs old)

Having everything installed by a local shop who I've had other installs done by I hopped in my truck and was furious at first listen. The subs bottom out HARD when fed over 200 watts anywhere below 40hz. They also lose all composure when playing complex program material at any volume level.

Elemental Designs runs a forum much like this one that is accessable through thier website. Having these issues I posted on that forum asking if the subs were faulty or if this was just typical Elemental Design product performance. Within 15 minutes my post was deleted and my I P address was banned. If you check out thier forum it overflows with praise about the products they sell. Go check it out for yourself. Register and then post a comment that you are unhappy with a product, you won't be posting much longer when one of the full time admins finds the post.

My purpose in posting this here is to get the word out that this company is using a suspect forum (albeit there are some actual posters who do just seem to like the garbage they sell) to make people think thier products have a grassroots type thumbs up.

Don't fall for the scam. These products are not quality by any means. The amp constantly overheats, the subs perform like crap, and the enclosure looks horrible. In my opinion they only sell these products online for the lack of being able to find shops that will carry the garbage they push. (And think how crappy some of the the low end stuff at your local shop is . . .)

Please don't think this is coming from an uneducated voice when it comes to car audio. Quickly glancing at the shelves in my garage you'd see several trophies from back when I competed in USAC in the 90's. Quality is a well known concept to me and this stuff is far from it.

Spread the word so other people don't end up a thousand dollars lighter and still have a crappy low end like me, and I'm sure, many others have ended up.

Just wanted to get this out there so nobody else falls for this scam.

Back to lurking for me.

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[Expy2K 10+ year member]

I need to see pictures and..

I think your full of shit

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[ls1pimp 10+ year member]

i have a Nine.1 amp, and today it caught on fire. I still like eD though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[ls1pimp 10+ year member]

On a serious note, my Nine.2 speaker amp did keep overheating today for some reason and kept going into safety mode for a few minutes at a time. I noticed i had blankets all over the amp and it was 80 degrees all day, so hopefully that is what did it.

 

[headtrnr 10+ year member]

well that sucks for you that you got that faulty stuff, i ordered me nine.1 from there site and we had great communication through e-mail and the amp slams and it is in my trunk behind the seat with pretty much no ventilaion and it hasn't shut off yet

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

hmmm my 9.2 never overheated...

but i hate the deadener as well as the nazinessof that board

 

[chubby 10+ year member]

i had a nine.2 that crapped out on me immediately after install. sparks and everything.

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif Welcome to the forum. As your location shows Iraq would it be a correct assumption to think that you're one of our fighting forces deployed to the Middle Eastern theatre?

Sorry to hear about your experience with eD, friend. I have no personal hands-on experience with their gear, personally, but there are plenty here on this forum that do....and repeatedly post positive results as well. It's someone in eD's organization (the owner? the CEO? I'm not certain exactly...) that most of the problems stem from seemingly...

As I have seen far too many posts about people liking both eD's drivers as well as their amps I have to think that the performance problems you've related to us regarding the subs are going to be mostly (if not completely) the fault of the enclosure. I've never perused their site thoroughly enough to even see that they sold enclosures! I learned something today...

At any rate - I'm real sorry to hear of your experience (and you're by far not the first to report such treatment on their forum as a result of posting anything other than glowing praise).

On a completely off-topic note, however, if my previous assumption is correct and you are a member of our uniformed fighting forces then my hat's off to you, friend. I've got nothin' but love for the troops //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/patriotic.gif.b47a6e0394a3738334c387bdf79409f4.gif

 

[ssj2xxgotenxx 10+ year member]

I need to see pictures and..

I think your full of shit

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Agreed... first time I've ever heard anything about the box quality. I look on their site, and their boxes are perfect. Although that is the typically treatment any negative posts recieve. Doesn't sound like ED quality to me though...

 

[chubby 10+ year member]

o, and their deadner is pure shit. ive used it, unfortuantely

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

ima go post a complaint to that fourm and see if i get banned.

 

[chubby 10+ year member]

also had an ED 15.22A in which the T-joint totally disconnected from the cone and beat the shit out of th carbon fiber until total VC seizure.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

we already know about isux. many members including myself are banned there

 

[AcidicDreams 10+ year member]

o, and their deadner is pure shit. ive used it, unfortuantely

yah I used two gallons of the liquid stuff and it sucked

 

[wilzyx 5,000+ posts]

to the original poster, most of the people on these forums, as well as myself, are already banned from there forums for making about a hundred threads and posting gay/animal ****. it was quite fun while it lasted.