911 conspiracy

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Or does it prove that the tanker was really packed with explosives and not fuel.....Hmmmm.......

dum dum dum

and the plot thickens!

lol

and I agree with the guy who said it's insulting the people who have passed by saying it was an inside job.

-Nick-

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

CA.COM SUCKS. Anytime someone asks a question You need to pull the flag poll out of there ***** before you would get a answer lol

I disagree.

 

[jimmclrk1 10+ year member]

I disagree.

And, I concur.

 

[bgdre12 10+ year member]

dum dum dum
and the plot thickens!

lol

and I agree with the guy who said it's insulting the people who have passed by saying it was an inside job.

-Nick-

how is it insulting...i mean the way i look at it, is that there might be more to the story than meets the eyes, and the family will know for sure who the culprit...just my .02....

 

[mike75356 10+ year member]

dum dum dum
and the plot thickens!

lol

and I agree with the guy who said it's insulting the people who have passed by saying it was an inside job.

-Nick-

Its insulting to the family's because they know its possible that our own people possibly did have something to do with this. Not saying they did but come on now what other reason would they hide so many things for so long? Everyone knows there is something fishy about the whole deal, no matter if they want to get it through there head or not its a fact.

 

[bgdre12 10+ year member]

Its insulting to the family's because they know its possible that our own people possibly did have something to do with this. Not saying they did but come on now what other reason would they hide so many things for so long? Everyone knows there is something fishy about the whole deal, no matter if they want to get it through there head or not its a fact.

ok..now i see....and that does make sense..

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

How could jet fuel melt steel? Experts say it's impossible.

Jet Fuel? No try a tanker filled with gasoline melted the steel reinforcement causing the exchange to collapse //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Guess that proves a fuel based fire can melt steel. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

or... (taking a few guesses here) the fire melted the asphalt base (looks like asphalt to me) which in turn gave up its structural integrity, which added dead weight to the structure, which also took away some of the steels heat protection, after the steel got hot its structural integrity started to fade (a property that of metals that some seem to neglect, they dont have to melt completely to fail, a little heat will make them maleable), once the steels structural integrity started to go, it was incapable of supporting the dead load on the interchange, which lead to its ultimate failure.

metals dont have to melt in order to fail //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif . when heat is added they can become pliable, they can stretch, lose their shape, and completely lose all of their expansion/compression stability.

just a guess, dont know if this was mentioned in the article or if anyone else had mentioned it. just some food for thought. and no, im not debating 911 at all on this one, just something else to consider in this case //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[elementxero 10+ year member]

And, I concur.

I think it's important we can learn to concur to disagree.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

or... (taking a few guesses here) the fire melted the asphalt base (looks like asphalt to me) which in turn gave up its structural integrity, which added dead weight to the structure, which also took away some of the steels heat protection, after the steel got hot its structural integrity started to fade (a property that of metals that some seem to neglect, they dont have to melt completely to fail, a little heat will make them maleable), once the steels structural integrity started to go, it was incapable of supporting the dead load on the interchange, which lead to its ultimate failure.
metals dont have to melt in order to fail //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif . when heat is added they can become pliable, they can stretch, lose their shape, and completely lose all of their expansion/compression stability.

just a guess, dont know if this was mentioned in the article or if anyone else had mentioned it. just some food for thought. and no, im not debating 911 at all on this one, just something else to consider in this case //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Good points but regardless I think it makes quite a case for 911. There's a whole lot of cement in the exchanges but it still failed. Haven't read through other replies but if you think it was something other than gas I'd say those people are crazy. The investigation has already happened. The tanker company was questioned along with the driver. No terrorists involved but the SF chronicle did mention key areas that terrorists should look to hit if they want to cause complete chaos in the area. Also this happened at 4 AM so there wasn't a whole lot of other cars (weight) on this exchange. Also I don't think heated asphalt can add that much weight. And asphalt is just the top layer the rest is cement followed by steel.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Good points but regardless I think it makes quite a case for 911. There's a whole lot of cement in the exchanges but it still failed. Haven't read through other replies but if you think it was something other than gas I'd say those people are crazy. The investigation has already happened. The tanker company was questioned along with the driver. No terrorists involved but the SF chronicle did mention key areas that terrorists should look to hit if they want to cause complete chaos in the area. Also this happened at 4 AM so there wasn't a whole lot of other cars (weight) on this exchange. Also I don't think heated asphalt can add that much weight. And asphalt is just the top layer the rest is cement followed by steel.

The 9/11 conpiracy theories are such horseshit they are not worthy of discussion - with one exception. I don't doubt that the administration would like to prevent further consideration of what was known to prevent the events.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Its insulting to the family's because they know its possible that our own people possibly did have something to do with this. Not saying they did but come on now what other reason would they hide so many things for so long? Everyone knows there is something fishy about the whole deal, no matter if they want to get it through there head or not its a fact.

1. reason government and beuracracy. if anything big goes down they sit there and try to think of the ramifications especially with something this big. Have to think of all angles. Do you think the news is showing us key moves our military makes when in war in Iraq? No way in hell. The one guy that i guess gave away a little too much was geraldo.

All that being said I think we get more inside information than the news has ever given in the passed which in wartimes isn't necessarily the best thing. The media in passed wars had a huge bias putting blinders on to anything bad that happened saying essentially the U.S. was the world's hero. Now they say we're a failure and continue to say it over and over. Why can't we win any wars in modern day times? My opinion is 1. the media 2. we have no inhumanity and the enemy does and always will. And not to go way off topic but the muslim religion worries me. I know they're not all crazy but like i heard 1 day. if you say 1% of them are, you still have a whole lot of them because it's the largest religion in the world. Saw in a newspaper recently that muslim protestors were protesting the capture and imprisonment of a terrorist and 100 protestors said leave muslims alone and that the UK will pay. In my opinion that's not funny and should = a threat and imprisonment. Oh and to sway even further why the hell is our government allowing outsiders to hop the border and cause disruption in Iraq? The middle east = craziness and always will.

 

[Soler 10+ year member]

explain this

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php

 

[CaliforniabOY5 10+ year member]

CA.COM SUCKS. Anytime someone asks a question You need to pull the flag poll out of there ***** before you would get a answer lol

GTFO and never come back?

 

[Soler 10+ year member]

GTFO and never come back?

edited for clarity

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

not gonna comment in this thread now.