9/11 last minute phonecalls :(

[DJGTSR 10+ year member]

ok now that is reaching

Perhaps, but it is not impossible.

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

I've seen ALL the videos, Loose Change, In Plane Site, Martial Law, Farenheit, etc... I've visited the websites, I've done research for a class last year, etc...
Most of the things said in all of those documentaries are BULLSHIT and PURE CRAP, except for the fact that the tower collapsed how it did, the different angles it gave, and the interesting theory of a missle hitting the Pentagon.

Most of the rest of that shit in those documentaries are pure crap, other than the WTC looking like a demolition.

Exactly, you can watch all the conspiracy videos you want and think "hey, that makes sense", but then you can also watch videos on how and why the towers came down like they did and also think "that makes sense". Its two CLEAR sides to the event, like always... conspiracy nuts and those who explain it conventionally.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Perhaps, but it is not impossible.

****** **** and killing our own people (comeing from a country that will spend millions of dollars to save a single hostage)?

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

I am not going to beat a dead horse, I watched the videos and I am very open to ideas and possibilites. Just done with this converstation because I am not going to try to make anyone believe something they do not want to believe.

 

[DJGTSR 10+ year member]

****** **** and killing our own people (comeing from a country that will spend millions of dollars to save a single hostage)?

Maybe they look at it as perserving a way of life, and perhaps that might be worth 3000 innocent lives...

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Maybe they look at it as perserving a way of life, and perhaps that might be worth 3000 innocent lives...

I understand the saying "gotta break a few eggs to make an omlette,"

 

but we are in the modern day era where there are ideas and technology that can improve things without resulting to killing innocent people. I don't know, I just feel I cannot change things, and I need to focus on myself, my family and my new born son. That is about as far reaching a single man with no serious financial assistance can deal with at age 28.

 

[DJGTSR 10+ year member]

I understand the saying "gotta break a few eggs to make an omlette," 

but we are in the modern day era where there are ideas and technology that can improve things without resulting to killing innocent people. I don't know, I just feel I cannot change things, and I need to focus on myself, my family and my new born son. That is about as far reaching a single man with no serious financial assistance can deal with at age 28.

Again, I dont know what happened on Sept. 11, and I doubt that anyone will ever know. I just want people to be open to answers that may seem so unimaginable because anything really is possible.

After hearing those tapes, especially Crosgrove, and looking at the photos of the bodies on the streets, I am left almost emotionless. It makes me seem if I am so unconnected from the real world because I have never experienced something so brutal and sick.

When I heard the tapes, it made me feel as if I could have easily been one of those persons in the WTC. Looking at video of planes hitting the building is one thing, but to hear a woman on the phone actually choking and burning to death and a man being crushed by a collapsing building, really puts you in their shoes ALMOST.

I think now, after hearing those tapes, people have a better understanding of the human suffering that went on inside the buildings after the planes hit.

Who ever did this , be it the government or the terrorists, are inhuman; They have no soul.

J

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Again, I dont know what happened on Sept. 11, and I doubt that anyone will ever know. I just want people to be open to answers that may seem so unimaginable because anything really is possible.
After hearing those tapes, especially Crosgrove, and looking at the photos of the bodies on the streets, I am left almost emotionless. It makes me seem if I am so unconnected from the real world because I have never experienced something so brutal and sick.

When I heard the tapes, it made me feel as if I could have easily been one of those persons in the WTC. Looking at video of planes hitting the building is one thing, but to hear a woman on the phone actually choking and burning to death and a man being crushed by a collapsing building, really puts you in their shoes ALMOST.

I think now, after hearing those tapes, people have a better understanding of the human suffering that went on inside the buildings after the planes hit.

Who ever did this , be it the government or the terrorists, are inhuman; They have no soul.

J

well said, +1

 

[DJGTSR 10+ year member]

Oh and one more thing.

Some people would think that those who lost their lives died a quick painless death.

Id like to argue that isnt the case.

Sure it takes a split second for a plane to smack into a building and another second for a building to collapse on you, but what about the time until that happened? What do you think it would be like to sit on a plane knowing that you are probably never going to see your wife, son, daughter, husband, mom or dad, ever again? How about sitting in a burning building in pain, not just you cant breathe and that you are being burned, but also knowing that this is how you are going to spend the last moments of your life; that you will never see your loved ones again?

I think the suffering of knowing you will never see your family and friends is greater than that of death. The people in the WTC suffered heavily for an hour before being crushed.

I never really thought about that until now. I never really understood the suffering. And that makes me even more sad and angry.

I just thought id share.

J

 

[btmorris972 10+ year member]

anyone who is interested in this topic should also check out the other 911 threads.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152270

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150717

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150854

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150652

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144394

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153482

some really good points brought up in these threads.

 

[DIPayton 10+ year member]

I skipped through a lot of this thread... and had a hard time listening to the conversations... so I thought I would read some of the transcripts... I started by reading the 2nd one and couldn't make it past this point - "KC: Doesn't feel like it, man. I got young kids."

That's so sad alone. Even all of this time later, I still think if it was one of my family members then I would be insane with mad and horrible thoughts.