no less than 165bd's...if you add another double stiff soft spider and a twisted double helix former..dude, atleast 170bd's..spect *puts out fist for dappage*
edit: the former has to be carbon fiber aswell //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif