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Prox, you work really hard at trying to sound smart, but you make one mental error after another.
For example, if we are allowed to use 'arbitrary' numbers, I guess I get to use them to. In your example, its more like the govt saying "we are going to give you a $2 tax break, but its going to cost you a nickel to get that $2". Hey, you're right, 'arbitrary numbers' sure prove a lot! I guess my arbitrary numbers just proved my point is more valid than yours!
"The point is, which you ignored, that government spending doesn't burden the average person; it benefits them."
This sums up your perspective in a nutshell. You feel that govt spending benefits people, so higher and higher taxes must mean better and better things for everyone. Socialism must be awesome, since it is essentially a 100% tax rate system. Awesome thought process bro.
"It's such an idiotic idea and being that history has proven it wrong anyway, yes, either they're complete idiots or soul-less demon spawned creatures from hell."
Yep, no other factors contribute to the welfare of our economy besides tax rates for the top 2%. What an open and shut case that Republicans are evil. Evil!
"Oh, so you want me to back up my accusations about what I said? Let's go."
No, I want you to quit being a moron that idealizes the Democrats' platform while demonizing the Republicans. For example, you talk about medicare/medicaid in terms that suggest Democrats want these programs just to help people, while ignoring the huge voter base they get from the elderly because of it, while ignoring the political ammunition they get from claiming the 'other side' just wants to take these things away from people, while ignoring most Republicans do not say we need to eliminate these programs but rather we need to streamline them to make them more cost effective, etc. This is how you argue, you view the Democratic platform in the most idealized way, while applying the most skeptical criticism to the Republicans' platform and motives.
Want another example of your amazing bias? Your example of "women's rights". You suggest those soft hearted Democrats just want to help women, while Republicans want to hurt them, take their rights away, control their decisions. You completely ignore the Republicans' idealized version of this issue, that they are protecting the "rights" of unborn children. Guess what bro, both sides make valid arguments. And guess what else. Ultimately, Im pro-choice, so I side with Democrats on this issue, but Im mature enough to see both sides of the issue. You on the other hand are too busy lodging your head up the Democrats' ***** to bother looking at it from any other perspective. You think you are pretty damn smart, but you are really just a hyper-opinionated adolescent who thinks he has the world all figured out. People smarter than you and I have been debating these issues (like abortion) long before we came on the scene. So maybe when you see a situation that seems so cut and dry that you wonder why nobody but you has figured out your insightful answer, maybe that should be a clue that you have oversimplified the issue to dumb it down to your intellect.
Voters rights? Gosh, your link sure does prove only Republicans play politics while trying to collect supporting votes and reject opposing votes. Oh wait, here's some links of my own:
"The college democrats at the University of Central Florida was able to get permission from administration to "bus" people to the polls because they were going to send anyone to the polls because it was providing a "public good" however, many College Republican tried to take advantage of this service but were turned away because the President of the CD's claimed "The democratic party paid for the vans thus democrats get priority"" - Florida College Democrats don't get it regarding SB2086 | Red County
"Consistent with popular socialist doctrines for taking control of a political party or movement, Democrats began the ‘noble’ cause of enfranchising oppressed elements of American society. Their goal: get more people out to vote, those who want or need whatever the Democrats are promising but who, otherwise, would not vote if it required any real effort. Same day registration, motor-voter, bus rides to the polling place, and ‘get out the vote’ campaigns such as those organized by ACORN are but a few of their programs. These efforts often were effective; yet, almost always, they were accompanied by some form of voter fraud." - Jim Crow Was a Democrat | Lee County's Top Political Blog
Get your head out of your *** Prox, both sides play games bordering on immoral, for the sake of winning more votes or denying their opposition as many votes as possible. This is exactly the type of irresponsible governing, from both parties, that I made this thread about.
"Yup, that is exactly what I said. What is it you were saying about thinking in terms of extremes? lol, you're such a hypocrite."
No, you didnt call anyone a carebear, or spawn of satan. But you have, more than once, claimed Republicans are, and I quote you directly, "complete idiots or soul-less demon spawned creatures from hell". And you have claimed (in previous threads) that the Republican agenda provides nothing positive for anyone but the elite rich. You ARE a partisan extremist, even if you dont use the word carebear. Your continual denials, while supporting my opinion that you are, in the very same reply, are quite amusing. Again I dont have virtually no respect for you because we disagree so often, I have so little respect for you because you aren't even smart/mature/reasonable enough to simply say 'yeah Im biased towards Democrats, but I think its justified'. You just think you are 'right'.
"I find in funny you try and portray me as a radical for HAVING an opinion."
You aren't a radical because you have an opinion, you are a radical due to what your opinions are. Id think someone as super smart as you would have understood that rather elementary difference. So either you are a complete moron who cant decipher between me saying all people with opinions are radical versus me saying people with opinions LIKE YOURS are radicals, or you aren't a moron and are intentionally trying to incorrectly portray my point. Which is it, moron or liar?
"So I'm a radical because I think one side possesses the majority of the blame, but you're not just because you think both sides are too blame? That's my problem, it's completely, entirely and 100% arbitrary."
First of all, you dont think one side possesses a 'majority' of the blame, you think one side possesses ALL of it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif That is what makes you a radical. Your problem... is that my claim of you being a radical bothers you so much... because you know, on some level deep down, that Im correct. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
"That is complete bullshit. It's like saying you need faith for the purpose of having faith. Being bipartisan for the sake of being bipartisan doesn't make you intelligent, it makes you look like an unknowledgeable idiot. Just because I see the facts for what they are doesn't make me inflexible. Partisanship and flexibility are absolutely independent concepts."
I see my point went right over your head. Not surprising tbh. Id reword it a simpler way in hopes you would get it, but you never will, because it would invalidate your bias.
"If one party says the earth is round and the other party says that the earth is flat, does adamantly stating that the earth is round make you an inflexible partisan hack? You're saying it does."
No, again Im not saying that having an opinion makes you right or wrong, Im saying the opinion itself makes you right or wrong. As in, is the world flat? If a Democrat told you it was, you'd go google a chart that verified it. Again I fail to understand why you cannot grasp my amazingly obvious point. Moron, or liar?
"I hope you see the overall point I'm making. You try so hard to be "bipartisan" only for the sake of being "bipartisan", not for actual truth. You're smart enough to find out the truth, but your preconceptions and general ideology cloud you from doing so."
I dont try to be nonpartisan, let alone try "hard". I wish both parties didnt disappoint me so often, but they do. You are just pissed because I include your precious Democrats in that disappointment. Again, all it took in this thread was for me to suggest BOTH parties have gotten us into this situation, and your panties got all in a wad. If any political thread exists on this forum that doesn't blame republicans for everything, you get pissed. That fact alone should tell you something. But it never will, because you are buried too far up the Democratic ass, collecting your school tuition and feeling like a swell guy for supporting all those people in need, to ever take a good hard look at yourself. Hey, instead of collecting that college tuition from the govt, why not donate that money to a homeless shelter? Because as usual with most do-gooders like yourself, your generosity rarely extends beyond 'theory' and social-wide policies that do not affect your day-to-day lifestyle. Id like to say that I hope same day you realize what an amazing hypocrite YOU are, but I know you never will. It would rock your world too much.
For example, if we are allowed to use 'arbitrary' numbers, I guess I get to use them to. In your example, its more like the govt saying "we are going to give you a $2 tax break, but its going to cost you a nickel to get that $2". Hey, you're right, 'arbitrary numbers' sure prove a lot! I guess my arbitrary numbers just proved my point is more valid than yours!
"The point is, which you ignored, that government spending doesn't burden the average person; it benefits them."
This sums up your perspective in a nutshell. You feel that govt spending benefits people, so higher and higher taxes must mean better and better things for everyone. Socialism must be awesome, since it is essentially a 100% tax rate system. Awesome thought process bro.
"It's such an idiotic idea and being that history has proven it wrong anyway, yes, either they're complete idiots or soul-less demon spawned creatures from hell."
Yep, no other factors contribute to the welfare of our economy besides tax rates for the top 2%. What an open and shut case that Republicans are evil. Evil!
"Oh, so you want me to back up my accusations about what I said? Let's go."
No, I want you to quit being a moron that idealizes the Democrats' platform while demonizing the Republicans. For example, you talk about medicare/medicaid in terms that suggest Democrats want these programs just to help people, while ignoring the huge voter base they get from the elderly because of it, while ignoring the political ammunition they get from claiming the 'other side' just wants to take these things away from people, while ignoring most Republicans do not say we need to eliminate these programs but rather we need to streamline them to make them more cost effective, etc. This is how you argue, you view the Democratic platform in the most idealized way, while applying the most skeptical criticism to the Republicans' platform and motives.
Want another example of your amazing bias? Your example of "women's rights". You suggest those soft hearted Democrats just want to help women, while Republicans want to hurt them, take their rights away, control their decisions. You completely ignore the Republicans' idealized version of this issue, that they are protecting the "rights" of unborn children. Guess what bro, both sides make valid arguments. And guess what else. Ultimately, Im pro-choice, so I side with Democrats on this issue, but Im mature enough to see both sides of the issue. You on the other hand are too busy lodging your head up the Democrats' ***** to bother looking at it from any other perspective. You think you are pretty damn smart, but you are really just a hyper-opinionated adolescent who thinks he has the world all figured out. People smarter than you and I have been debating these issues (like abortion) long before we came on the scene. So maybe when you see a situation that seems so cut and dry that you wonder why nobody but you has figured out your insightful answer, maybe that should be a clue that you have oversimplified the issue to dumb it down to your intellect.
Voters rights? Gosh, your link sure does prove only Republicans play politics while trying to collect supporting votes and reject opposing votes. Oh wait, here's some links of my own:
"The college democrats at the University of Central Florida was able to get permission from administration to "bus" people to the polls because they were going to send anyone to the polls because it was providing a "public good" however, many College Republican tried to take advantage of this service but were turned away because the President of the CD's claimed "The democratic party paid for the vans thus democrats get priority"" - Florida College Democrats don't get it regarding SB2086 | Red County
"Consistent with popular socialist doctrines for taking control of a political party or movement, Democrats began the ‘noble’ cause of enfranchising oppressed elements of American society. Their goal: get more people out to vote, those who want or need whatever the Democrats are promising but who, otherwise, would not vote if it required any real effort. Same day registration, motor-voter, bus rides to the polling place, and ‘get out the vote’ campaigns such as those organized by ACORN are but a few of their programs. These efforts often were effective; yet, almost always, they were accompanied by some form of voter fraud." - Jim Crow Was a Democrat | Lee County's Top Political Blog
Get your head out of your *** Prox, both sides play games bordering on immoral, for the sake of winning more votes or denying their opposition as many votes as possible. This is exactly the type of irresponsible governing, from both parties, that I made this thread about.
"Yup, that is exactly what I said. What is it you were saying about thinking in terms of extremes? lol, you're such a hypocrite."
No, you didnt call anyone a carebear, or spawn of satan. But you have, more than once, claimed Republicans are, and I quote you directly, "complete idiots or soul-less demon spawned creatures from hell". And you have claimed (in previous threads) that the Republican agenda provides nothing positive for anyone but the elite rich. You ARE a partisan extremist, even if you dont use the word carebear. Your continual denials, while supporting my opinion that you are, in the very same reply, are quite amusing. Again I dont have virtually no respect for you because we disagree so often, I have so little respect for you because you aren't even smart/mature/reasonable enough to simply say 'yeah Im biased towards Democrats, but I think its justified'. You just think you are 'right'.
"I find in funny you try and portray me as a radical for HAVING an opinion."
You aren't a radical because you have an opinion, you are a radical due to what your opinions are. Id think someone as super smart as you would have understood that rather elementary difference. So either you are a complete moron who cant decipher between me saying all people with opinions are radical versus me saying people with opinions LIKE YOURS are radicals, or you aren't a moron and are intentionally trying to incorrectly portray my point. Which is it, moron or liar?
"So I'm a radical because I think one side possesses the majority of the blame, but you're not just because you think both sides are too blame? That's my problem, it's completely, entirely and 100% arbitrary."
First of all, you dont think one side possesses a 'majority' of the blame, you think one side possesses ALL of it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif That is what makes you a radical. Your problem... is that my claim of you being a radical bothers you so much... because you know, on some level deep down, that Im correct. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
"That is complete bullshit. It's like saying you need faith for the purpose of having faith. Being bipartisan for the sake of being bipartisan doesn't make you intelligent, it makes you look like an unknowledgeable idiot. Just because I see the facts for what they are doesn't make me inflexible. Partisanship and flexibility are absolutely independent concepts."
I see my point went right over your head. Not surprising tbh. Id reword it a simpler way in hopes you would get it, but you never will, because it would invalidate your bias.
"If one party says the earth is round and the other party says that the earth is flat, does adamantly stating that the earth is round make you an inflexible partisan hack? You're saying it does."
No, again Im not saying that having an opinion makes you right or wrong, Im saying the opinion itself makes you right or wrong. As in, is the world flat? If a Democrat told you it was, you'd go google a chart that verified it. Again I fail to understand why you cannot grasp my amazingly obvious point. Moron, or liar?
"I hope you see the overall point I'm making. You try so hard to be "bipartisan" only for the sake of being "bipartisan", not for actual truth. You're smart enough to find out the truth, but your preconceptions and general ideology cloud you from doing so."
I dont try to be nonpartisan, let alone try "hard". I wish both parties didnt disappoint me so often, but they do. You are just pissed because I include your precious Democrats in that disappointment. Again, all it took in this thread was for me to suggest BOTH parties have gotten us into this situation, and your panties got all in a wad. If any political thread exists on this forum that doesn't blame republicans for everything, you get pissed. That fact alone should tell you something. But it never will, because you are buried too far up the Democratic ass, collecting your school tuition and feeling like a swell guy for supporting all those people in need, to ever take a good hard look at yourself. Hey, instead of collecting that college tuition from the govt, why not donate that money to a homeless shelter? Because as usual with most do-gooders like yourself, your generosity rarely extends beyond 'theory' and social-wide policies that do not affect your day-to-day lifestyle. Id like to say that I hope same day you realize what an amazing hypocrite YOU are, but I know you never will. It would rock your world too much.
