personally if i wanna get sloppy but not drunk i drink 2 22's of arrogant b@stard... its got so much hops in it you end up falling over drunk but still got your head about you..
the best way i can describe it....chewy. you feel like you need to chew your beer... after you get used to it though its great. they also make a sweet ipa. They are based here in san diego also another reason i like drinking it.