2006 Dodge Charger XXX Build!!!

[stl_style 10+ year member]

you need one more amp so you can run one per-coil

Can I fit 4 of these amps in that car? Zier your starting to scare me.

 

[Torgus 10+ year member]

is this what your looking for ?

you're doing it wrong. just saying. solder will never withstand a pull test vs a crimp. will it work? yeah probably 90% of the time. also with that small torch it's hard to say how well the solder is actually flowing inside the connector...solder should only be used, in this case, for making a connection w/ the most surface area not for strength and or to hold the contact onto the wire. if the solder is 'thought' to be going to make 'that' much of an improvement in contact area than a lower gauge wire should be used 1st. fwiw i used to work in a wire manufacturing plant in the new products introduction department. if i ever sent a soldered and uncrimped connector to any of our contracted companies i would have been laughed at and it would never have even gotten past QA.

 

[zierbox 10+ year member]

You must get “LAUGHED” at a LOT, so it would seem (you should have kept sweeping the floor at that wire plant)

Don’t come in here and try to apply some type Quasi- Military, NASA standard to some thing you, Only Think; You know about

Now that am done laughing, I have better things to do

 

[Phlipbak 10+ year member]

Well.. ideally it should be soldered AND crimped for best connection and hold..

 

[Ali1 10+ year member]

shrink these pics!! !

photobucket -ftw

 

[Torgus 10+ year member]

You must get “LAUGHED” at a LOT, so it would seem (you should have kept sweeping the floor at that wire plant)
Don’t come in here and try to apply some type Quasi- Military, NASA standard to some thing you, Only Think; You know about

Now that am done laughing, I have better things to do

wtf???

it's basic theory lol. something i 'think' i know about? this isn't an opinion based argument. there is a right and wrong way to do it. period. black and white. i guess someone who worked in the professional wire industry knows nothing about what they are talking about huh? I'm sure you've done more crimps, pull tests, machine setups, and DFMs/NPIs than i have. I'm sure you've worked with more and larger multibillion dollar companies designing and prototyping the wires/harnesses for them. It's obvious your amazing experience and education dwarfs mine. what college did you goto again? what degree?

i love how instead of trying to backup the way you made the connections with say...facts? you tried to insult me instead. REAL PROFESSIONAL. This must get you alot of customers

i was just pointing out soldering it with the tiny torch is the wrong way to do it. period. you could have said: 'ok you're right i know it's the wrong way to do it, but it works.' but now i have to make you look like a fool for you're lack of knowledge on something so simple. it's faster to crimp than solder anyways so why you do it that way is beyond me. in fact if you were going to do it that way, which IS the wrong way mind you, they make solders for such large gauge wire. you really never want to use a torch, EVER. and yes we did have large contracts with some serious companies such as 'nasa or military grade stuff' those required even more strenuous methods of attaching a contact to a wire. ie double and triple crimps w/ soldering and specialized 'shrink wrap' if you want to call it shrink wrap at that point. even for the most basic companies a pure solder connection would fail 1st the crimp test, and as i said it would never get past QA, let alone be allowed out the door for the fact of how bad it would reflect on our company. If you can't do the most basic thing right how can we trust you to do something 'large'

the fact you don't even think a crimper should be used on wire contacts says alot, let alone for 0 00 0000 etc. It really says something about the level of education you have regarding your profession in this matter. something as basic as connecting a contact to a wire...i mean come on man, any 1st year EE/ME in college would laugh at your comments.

edit: exactly what type of solder do you use for your connections?

edit #2: you probably don't fuse the alt to batt wire either do you?

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

wtf???
it's basic theory lol. i guess someone who worked in the wire industry knows nothing about what they are talking about huh? I'm sure you've done more crimps, pull tests, machine setups, and DFMs/NPIs than i have. I'm sure you've worked with multibillion dollar companies designing and prototyping the wires/harnesses for them. It's obvious your amazing experience and education dwarfs mine.

i love how instead of trying to backup the way you made the connections with say...facts? you tried to insult me instead. REAL PROFESSIONAL. This must get you alot of customers

i was just pointing out soldering it with the tiny torch is the wrong way to do it. period. in fact if you were going to do it that way, which IS the wrong way mind you, they make solders for such large gauge wire. you really never want to use a torch, EVER. and yes we did have large contracts with some serious companies such as 'nasa or military grade stuff' those required even more strenuous methods of attaching a contact to a wire. ie double and trippled crimps w/ soldering and specialized 'shrink wrap' if you want to call it shrink wrap at that point. even for the most basic companies a pure solder connection would fail and as i said it would never get past QA.

the fact you don't even think a crimper should be used on wire contacts says alot, let alone for 0 00 0000 etc. It really says something about the level of education you have regarding your profession. something as basic as connecting a contact to a wire...i mean come on. any 1st year EE/ME in college would laugh at your comments.

edit: exactly what type of solder do you use for your connections?

edit #2: you probably don't fuse the alt to batt wire either.

I think he is fine in that department

 

[99grandprixGT 5,000+ posts]

i guess he has not seen some of zeirs work. does not look like hes hurting

 

[pioneerpimp 5,000+ posts]

wow, he gets customers, so does best buy and they **** up a lot of installs. this is about the soldering, in which i would assume crimping is the best way to do it, with solder for added strength

 

[dcole18 5,000+ posts]

wtf???
it's basic theory lol. something i 'think' i know about? this isn't an opinion based argument. there is a right and wrong way to do it. period. black and white. i guess someone who worked in the professional wire industry knows nothing about what they are talking about huh? I'm sure you've done more crimps, pull tests, machine setups, and DFMs/NPIs than i have. I'm sure you've worked with more and larger multibillion dollar companies designing and prototyping the wires/harnesses for them. It's obvious your amazing experience and education dwarfs mine. what college did you goto again? what degree?

i love how instead of trying to backup the way you made the connections with say...facts? you tried to insult me instead. REAL PROFESSIONAL. This must get you alot of customers

i was just pointing out soldering it with the tiny torch is the wrong way to do it. period. you could have said: 'ok you're right i know it's the wrong way to do it, but it works.' but now i have to make you look like a fool for you're lack of knowledge on something so simple. it's faster to crimp than solder anyways so why you do it that way is beyond me. in fact if you were going to do it that way, which IS the wrong way mind you, they make solders for such large gauge wire. you really never want to use a torch, EVER. and yes we did have large contracts with some serious companies such as 'nasa or military grade stuff' those required even more strenuous methods of attaching a contact to a wire. ie double and triple crimps w/ soldering and specialized 'shrink wrap' if you want to call it shrink wrap at that point. even for the most basic companies a pure solder connection would fail 1st the crimp test, and as i said it would never get past QA, let alone be allowed out the door for the fact of how bad it would reflect on our company. If you can't do the most basic thing right how can we trust you to do something 'large'

the fact you don't even think a crimper should be used on wire contacts says alot, let alone for 0 00 0000 etc. It really says something about the level of education you have regarding your profession in this matter. something as basic as connecting a contact to a wire...i mean come on man, any 1st year EE/ME in college would laugh at your comments.

edit: exactly what type of solder do you use for your connections?

edit #2: you probably don't fuse the alt to batt wire either do you?

wow, he gets customers, so does best buy and they **** up a lot of installs. this is about the soldering, in which i would assume crimping is the best way to do it, with solder for added strength

are you guys fucking serious?

so he uses solder instead of crimping his connections... why does this bother you?

if it works for him (and it obviously does) then it works for him

its not like he's working on airplanes (where iirc its illegal to have a soldered connection, all wired must be crimped)

and one more thing, Steve Meade solders his wires instead of crimping them...

ZOMG! lets go flame him some more too!

 

[NeedDirections 10+ year member]

are you guys fucking serious?

so he uses solder instead of crimping his connections... why does this bother you?

if it works for him (and it obviously does) then it works for him

its not like he's working on airplanes (where iirc its illegal to have a soldered connection, all wired must be crimped)

and one more thing, Steve Meade solders his wires instead of crimping them...

ZOMG! lets go flame him some more too!

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It doesn't "bother" anyone. The guy and zier are discussing the most efficient and reliable method of attaching a wire to a contact. period. Zier was wrong, arrogant, and proved to be both. Game over, also you proved everyone's point by saying that it's illegal to have uncrimped connections on airplanes.

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

Showing very little Progress:crap:, I didn't want to post pics until I had bot amps running, but here you go. Temp setup! !T2000 wired running 2 RE XXX 12's wired to 2 ohms. I will post vids tomorrow once I free up some space on the HDD on my camcorder. Unless some one can teach me how to download the images from a mini disc, not sure if its dvr or cdr.

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[stl_style 10+ year member]

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[stl_style 10+ year member]

I have one 1000 crank duralast gold ran off the stock bat using 1/0. The T2000 and Cadence 600.4 are ran off the stock bat and the new bat is connected to the stock bat. Would it have made a difference if I ran the amps off the new bat?

 

[mobeious 10+ year member]

well a proper connection sould be 100% air tight and u wont get that with a solder joint.. should krimp then solder the solder part seals the crimp for a air tight seal