i say 30 because 32 is the size the hd claims to be, and then inside the ipod in settings it says its only 30? tell me you've never seemed this with computers before to......a comp that says its got a 180gb hard drive only has 167 free when you start it up? figured i would save time by saying that. any let me edit this, i meant is it a good deal for me to buy? not that i have one for sale, one of my friends does that she wants to sell, she said 200 at first and i jewed her down to 175, and im not sure the gen. she bought it like last decembernever knew they made a 30 gig touch...i know they made a 32gb but not 30