$150 for Grounding

[jdc753 10+ year member]

guessing you have found this already but if not maybe it will give you some help.

http://www.stillen.com/product_files/606350~inst.pdf

$150 would be retarded for something like that.

 

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

sucks about your car.as for the grounding points i think i would pay that much since they are grouning way more points that normally done as with the big 3. plus for on it's pertty hard to get into some areas and can be a little time consuming. as for thread count in the wire, imo used as a ground i'm sure there isn't much of a real difference if they use some 1/0ga that has 500strands less than your name brand 1/0ga.

I understand it's difficult to get to certain places and labor is a little intensive, and I don't mind paying for someone to do the install for me. $150 is a lot for labor, considering it cost that much to take off my suspension and put a new one on in my last vehicle, which I think is even more labor intensive. I also am a little anal about certain things, I'd like all the additional wires I install in the vehicle to be of the same brand, sounds stupid, but that's how I would like it.

guessing you have found this already but if not maybe it will give you some help.
http://www.stillen.com/product_files/606350~inst.pdf

$150 would be retarded for something like that.

Thanks for the link, better than the one I had found since it wasn't in PDF format, but this one includes 5 wires, looking primarily for the with 10.

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

what exactly are you gaining by changing the grounds? Don't you think the OEM manufacturer has spent a little R&D time on the electrical system, including the grounds? Would be a LOT of recall/warranty work otherwise. Save your $$$ for something useful...

 

[imfrumthawest 10+ year member]

ricer-nomics my friend. yes, it is so. i have a kit myself for sale, it wires up your rear brake lights to the inlet of your gas tank for $25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a deal!!!!!!!!!!! operators are standing by. themselves.

 

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

Lol.


Nope, been gone since May 23rd.

That reminds me I gotta pay up my insurance this month.

 

[silvercookie 5,000+ posts]

Equipment Needed

1. +- screw drivers.

never knew screwdrivers had polarities.

 

[dbolemiss 10+ year member]

I bought one of those kits for my titan, I paid $50 for some 4gauge wire(4 of them about 8ft total) and ends.I have all the wire now to do my Armada myself.

Check out http://www.activetuning.com/

Thats where i got my kit from,they have real good pics for the Titan to go off of.Dont know what they have for your car.

 

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

what exactly are you gaining by changing the grounds? Don't you think the OEM manufacturer has spent a little R&D time on the electrical system, including the grounds? Would be a LOT of recall/warranty work otherwise. Save your $$$ for something useful...

From what I have been reading the '03 - '06 grounding is not great and the '07+ models changed that. Also, the purpose is mainly for the ManuMatic mode since shifting, whether up or down, has a lag. With the manual transmission people said they don't notice any change, but with the automatic there is during the manumatic mode. Even if I use wire and do the grounding myself, it doesn't hurt, it's pretty much an extended version of the Big 3. I do get your point though, not all cars need additional grounding an alot of it is a marketing scheme, but some vehicles can use better grounding.

I bought one of those kits for my titan, I paid $50 for some 4gauge wire(4 of them about 8ft total) and ends.I have all the wire now to do my Armada myself.Check out http://www.activetuning.com/

Thats where i got my kit from,they have real good pics for the Titan to go off of.Dont know what they have for your car.

That's a bit expensive, I bought a full Kicker 4 awg kit for about that much which included distribution blocks, fuses, and 30 ft. of wire, I just need the grounding locations.

 

[dbolemiss 10+ year member]

The kit i bought was a grounding kit for the Titan from active tuning,not amp kit.Thats why i bought the wire to make my own grounding kit for the Armada.

 

[stuckinok 5,000+ posts]

yea i remember the whole grounding upgrade back in 2000-01. It was stupid since it cost so much. Before I knew what the Big three was i did a 6 point gounding upgrade in my last car a Passat. cost me around 12 bucks and was the exact same thing.

 

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

The kit i bought was a grounding kit for the Titan from active tuning,not amp kit.Thats why i bought the wire to make my own grounding kit for the Armada.

Ah, seems like changing the name from amp kit to grounding kit makes it more expensive. Well I guess you pay for the ring terminals already being on the wire, still not a difficult thing to do.

 

[MECHMAN 10+ year member]

The only really important places to ground is the ECM ground, the transmission module ground, transmission case to battery ground, alternator case to battery ground, coil-pack mounting grounds and additional battery to chassis grounds. You can do it all yourself with some decent 8 gauge wire.

 

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

The only really important places to ground is the ECM ground, the transmission module ground, transmission case to battery ground, alternator case to battery ground, coil-pack mounting grounds and additional battery to chassis grounds. You can do it all yourself with some decent 8 gauge wire.

I'm pretty sure those are the one's people are not mentioning on the site, I just need to find out where these points are locating on my car.

 

[MECHMAN 10+ year member]

I'm pretty sure those are the one's people are not mentioning on the site, I just need to find out where these points are locating on my car.

Just follow the main harness from the Computer, you will see a couple heavy wires come out of the harness to ground, just run an extra ground from the - bat terminal to those points and be sure to sand/clean them thouroughly. On all the rest, just use a good clean bolt on the motor & ***** respectively.

 

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

Will have lift the car up and check it out before doing anything. PM sent to ya MECHMAN.

Any difference if I use 4 awg instead of 8? The norm that people seem to be installing is 8 awg, but that could be for a larger profit for smaller wire.