12" JL w7 vs RE XXX

[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

LOL ok guys, I have a friend sitting here with me and no matter what specs I show him, no matter how many youtube videos I show him of a xxx in action he just doesn't want to buy into the fact that there is a better sub then the w7! I can think of a few that I would go with over the W7 but the RE is the first that came to mind.

Now I know someone will ask for further clarification, He thinks the JL is both louder and better SQ. Lets say both subs are set up in they're IDEAL situations.

Thanks for the help.

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[Crimson Boom 10+ year member]

XXX by miles

 

[btdickey99 5,000+ posts]

so you show him vids, specs, and he doesnt believe you.

so asking us will make him believe?

 

[sonic purity 10+ year member]

The RE might not match the SQ of the JL, but will blow it away in SPL, by far

 

[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

so you show him vids, specs, and he doesnt believe you.
so asking us will make him believe?

Well... I have been messing around with car audio for years, him... not so long. For some reason he decided to jump on the JL band wagon because of the couple of JL dealers told him it is top of the line.

He told me "ask anyone, they will tell you that JL is the best money can buy." So I figured I would ask around a little, and show him a response or two from some people who know what they are talking about.

 

[terra 5,000+ posts]

the w7 is not all that amazing. w6 has better clarity and sq. the new xxx will be far louder though.

 

[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

the w7 is not all that amazing. w6 has better clarity and sq. the new xxx will be far louder though.

I have never been all that impressed with the w7, I never thought the SQ is everything that everyone makes them out to be. I think they are over hyped.

 

[terra 5,000+ posts]

I have never been all that impressed with the w7, I never thought the SQ is everything that everyone makes them out to be. I think they are over hyped.

absolutely. my friend has one in his jeep. ive heard better for a fraction of that insane price tag

 

[babaganoush123 10+ year member]

xxx all the way.

 

[terra 5,000+ posts]

xxx all the way.

didnt know you were still here!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

Of course the new XXX is MORE EXPENSIVE than the W7...since price is usually the biggest problem people have with the W7s, where does that leave the XXX? If you're looking for potential output, the XXX is the clear winner. Properly enclosed, SQ is going to be a toss up with the W7 probably having a very slight edge (talking measured distortion, or lack thereof).

If you factor out price, there are very few subs that I would rather have than a W7 but I don't give a crap about getting loud. The subs I would pick over the W7 also cost more, with the end result being that subs that actually can give you the quality low distortion output in the class of the W7 are just as expensive, if not more so, than the W7.

 

[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

Of course the new XXX is MORE EXPENSIVE than the W7...since price is usually the biggest problem people have with the W7s, where does that leave the XXX? If you're looking for potential output, the XXX is the clear winner. Properly enclosed, SQ is going to be a toss up with the W7 probably having a very slight edge (talking measured distortion, or lack thereof).
If you factor out price, there are very few subs that I would rather have than a W7 but I don't give a crap about getting loud. The subs I would pick over the W7 also cost more, with the end result being that subs that actually can give you the quality low distortion output in the class of the W7 are just as expensive, if not more so, than the W7.

You have a good point, obviously the w7 is a much more popular sub because it is with in much more people's grasp when it comes to price. It also depends on where you are buying one, and if you are paying retail price. Retail on the 12 w7 is like 800, I could score an XXX on ebay for same amount or maybe less. It is a shame though that if you ask the average guy they have no clue what an RE XXX is.

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

How old is the W7 design anyways,that thing has been out for what? 5-7 years ???

 

[02parkave 5,000+ posts]

How old is the W7 design anyways,that thing has been out for what? 5-7 years ???

and the fact that it is still regarded as the sub all others are measured by is a true testament to the design. like the woofer or not.. it uses no fancy topologies, no hidden voodoo per se and still it remains on top. amazing really.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Of course the new XXX is MORE EXPENSIVE than the W7...since price is usually the biggest problem people have with the W7s, where does that leave the XXX? If you're looking for potential output, the XXX is the clear winner. Properly enclosed, SQ is going to be a toss up with the W7 probably having a very slight edge (talking measured distortion, or lack thereof).
If you factor out price, there are very few subs that I would rather have than a W7 but I don't give a crap about getting loud. The subs I would pick over the W7 also cost more, with the end result being that subs that actually can give you the quality low distortion output in the class of the W7 are just as expensive, if not more so, than the W7.

While I agree the W7 is an outstanding driver, imo there are and have been several drivers that offer similar performance, for less money. The Brahma/old XXX come to mind, the CSS SDX, GTi's, etc. Basically we are looking at a BL optimized driver with very good displacement potential. Not exclusive traits to W7, nor to the $800+ club.