10" IDmax Vs. 12" IDQ??

[mattldm 10+ year member]

Which one of these will offer the best combination of SQ while still hitting hard...

I want the bass to be tight and have a good kick or hit to it, but still sound good without the "one note" sound of some i have heard.

Heres what I have to work with...

600 watts (PDX 1.600)

about 1 cube box, sealed - unfinished at this point so I can cut the box for either sub.

The sub will be in the xtra cab of my truck, right behind my seat.

I listen to mostly rock, metal, jazz... hardly ever listen to rap or hip/hop.

Any comments about these two subs?

which would you choose?

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[BLD 25 10+ year member]

From what I understand, the IDQ may not be an upgrade from your ARC 12. It may actually be a downgrade unless the IDQ is a v3.

 

[mattldm 10+ year member]

Yeah, I am asking about the V.3 of the IDQ.

Also, the arc sounds good. it plays low, but it doesnt seem to have the "Kick" or "hit" i guess you would say... Im not sure how to describe it. I borrowed a Kicker L7 12" from my friend and tried that in my truck for a week. It didnt sound as good but it hit much harder than the Arc, it seemed to punch me in the back more than the Arc...

Im looking for a sub that will do both, if that makes sense.

 

[pjhabit 10+ year member]

A 12" ID MAX would do well on 600w (& thats underrating that amp). Port the bish & upgrade your amp later on if you feel the need to add a couple more dbz

 

[mattldm 10+ year member]

A 12" ID MAX would do well on 600w (& thats underrating that amp). Port the bish & upgrade your amp later on if you feel the need to add a couple more dbz

Yeah, but im thinking that a 12" IDmax will be overkill in the smallish cab of my truck? Its a tacoma so the cab is not huge.

 

[pjhabit 10+ year member]

Yeah, but im thinking that a 12" IDmax will be overkill in the smallish cab of my truck? Its a tacoma so the cab is not huge.

They do well in smaller enclosures. How much ft^3 are thinking of giving up?

Cone area > x-max

 

[mattldm 10+ year member]

I have the box that the Arc is in which is 1.29ft^3.

I could use this one but I was thinking of selling it with the Arc sub.

I guess I could keep the box though.

 

[speedfreak28 10+ year member]

I have a 13w6 in a box about the same airspace, it sound awesome. very responsive and blends well with my front stage but also kicks you in the back

 

[pjhabit 10+ year member]

1 ft^3 is recommend for the 12"Qv3

1.3 ft^3 is recommend for the 12"MAX

either sub would work well w/ the box you have.

If you do get rid of the box I'd go a bit bigger w/ the MAX @~1.4 ft^3

If you go w/ the Q I'd stick it in 1 ft^3

(these are all after sub displacement & sealed btw)

No need considering a 10" IMO

 

[speedfreak28 10+ year member]

do you think the max would be worth getting with 600 watts? ive never heard one but wouldliketo try one.

 

[mattldm 10+ year member]

do you think the max would be worth getting with 600 watts? ive never heard one but wouldliketo try one.

That is my concern too. ID rates the 12" IDMax at 1000watts RMS so i wonder if 600 would be to far under powered for it to really shine.

 

[speedfreak28 10+ year member]

I think i remember hearing that you would be surprised with the outpu even wtih around 500 watts, maybe someone who has used it could chime in, or you couldalways get the pdx 1.1000.

 

[pjhabit 10+ year member]

Its a very efficient woofer. I've seen people on ID's forum run it w/ the sub channel of a pdx-5 (300 rms). I wouldn't recommend it but 600 watts will move that woofer...for sure.

Remember the pdx's are under rated as well

 

[D1g1tal V3n0m 10+ year member]

I currently run mine off of 250 watts RMS out of a JL 250/1 into 4 ohms. Running it in a 1.43 Cubic foot enclosure before sub displacement. It is a very efficient sub and even at the power level I am using gets plenty loud for my tastes. I find it to be very musical and more then capable of playing anything I ask it to at that power level.

 

[mattldm 10+ year member]

I currently run mine off of 250 watts RMS out of a JL 250/1 into 4 ohms. Running it in a 1.43 Cubic foot enclosure before sub displacement. It is a very efficient sub and even at the power level I am using gets plenty loud for my tastes. I find it to be very musical and more then capable of playing anything I ask it to at that power level.

You are running an IDmax 12" on 250 watts?