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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Who's been killed by right wing violence?

You're joking, right?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

You're joking, right?

I'm waiting for examples, duh. I can't prove the negative so you prove the positive that right wingers are committing violence based on large scale propaganda

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Let the grift continue.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I'm waiting for examples, duh. I can't prove the negative so you prove the positive that right wingers are committing violence based on large scale propaganda

"committing violence based on large scale propaganda"

I'm not even sure what that means.

Would you like to know that right-wing murders outnumber left-wing murders by a signifcant percentage?
"Right-wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting for 391 murders and 11 percent of the total. The definition here of right-wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti-abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy (incels), and other right-wing ideologies.
Left-wing terrorists murdered 65 people, or about 2 percent of the total. Left-wing terrorists include those motivated by black nationalism, anti-police sentiment, communism, socialism, animal rights, environmentalism, anti-white ideologies, and other left-wing ideologies. Those murders that are politically motivated by unknown or other ideologies are a vanishingly small percentage, which is unsurprising because terrorists typically want attention for their causes."

https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

"All the extremist-related murders in 2024 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings."

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2024

Or are you looking more for a list of the actual crimes committed by right-wingers, such as the ********* insurrectionist that Trump pardoned, or the right-winger who killed Melissa Hortman, or the right-winger who attacked Paul Pelosi with a hammer, or all those fake electors trying to get Trump voted in, or maybe Giuliani being in cotempt of court in a $148M defamation case?

Does it have to be politically-motivated crime, or just crime by a right-winger?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

"committing violence based on large scale propaganda"

I'm not even sure what that means.

Would you like to know that right-wing murders outnumber left-wing murders by a signifcant percentage?
"Right-wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting for 391 murders and 11 percent of the total. The definition here of right-wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti-abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy (incels), and other right-wing ideologies.
Left-wing terrorists murdered 65 people, or about 2 percent of the total. Left-wing terrorists include those motivated by black nationalism, anti-police sentiment, communism, socialism, animal rights, environmentalism, anti-white ideologies, and other left-wing ideologies. Those murders that are politically motivated by unknown or other ideologies are a vanishingly small percentage, which is unsurprising because terrorists typically want attention for their causes."

https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

"All the extremist-related murders in 2024 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings."

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2024

Or are you looking more for a list of the actual crimes committed by right-wingers, such as the ********* insurrectionist that Trump pardoned, or the right-winger who killed Melissa Hortman, or the right-winger who attacked Paul Pelosi with a hammer, or all those fake electors trying to get Trump voted in, or maybe Giuliani being in cotempt of court in a $148M defamation case?

Does it have to be politically-motivated crime, or just crime by a right-winger?

Well, I am trying to refer to more relevant items as the right and left wing of today aren't even the same as like the year 2000, so I don't mean back to the 70's. I mean since maybe Obama or trump got into office, because that's when the political shift really started to change to where it is today. And I don't necessarily mean terrorists either, that's how statistics are manipulated easily or misunderstood is classifications.

I absolutely do not accept the ADL as a credible source. Heavy bias from them. The Nashville school shooting was a left wing extremism shooting so yeah no that one is garbage, CATO might be somewhat relevant but the time span is too long and I'm not really limiting what I'm trying to say by what's considered a terrorist attack. I'm talking about crime. Because I just don't see a ton of crime committed by right wingers like there is on the left. The left promotes crime and hatred and violence. People dying a lot from violence in left wing cities, a lot. I'm not even right wing bro it's just obvious. What left wing political opponent has been assassinated by a trump supporter?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I'm curious about what will happen with gov't workers who were fired. It doesn't look it technically violates the first to fire celebraters.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So "God" got it wrong the first time God wrote the book, and had to do a product recall and rewrite?
Seems odd for an ominipotent being who knows all that was, is, and ever will be, huh?

Wow, maybe an issue you shouldn't speak on. There was a whole new experience God had and thus we get the new testament. Some people or even God can change their mind when confronted with new information; after all we're not liberals.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Is Theology Professor RobGMN educating the forum on the lord?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Someone must have thought they were homeless.
On Fox, it's OK to kill homeless people.

View attachment 68041

Why do I suspect this is a massive lie...

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

@RobGMN it even says in one of the things you posted that terrorists often want attention for their violence to spread a message- that's exactly why all these left wing killers engrave left wing ideology on their weapons they use to kill- it's so they leave a message- and the message was a left wing message in many recent events, such as Charlie Kirk's assassination- why can't you just admit that? That's an objective fact

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Well, I am trying to refer to more relevant items as the right and left wing of today aren't even the same as like the year 2000, so I don't mean back to the 70's. I mean since maybe Obama or trump got into office, because that's when the political shift really started to change it where it is today. And I don't necessarily mean terrorists either, that's how statistics are manipulated easily or misunderstood is classifications.

I absolutely do not accept the ADL as a credible source. Heavy bias from them. The Nashville school shooting was a left wing extremism shooting so yeah no that one is garbage, CATO might be somewhat relevant but the time span is too long.

They pull their stats from the FBI crime database. Easily verified.

Well, I am trying to refer to more relevant items as the right and left wing of today aren't even the same as like the year 2000, so I don't mean back to the 70's. I mean since maybe Obama or trump got into office, because that's when the political shift really started to change to where it is today. And I don't necessarily mean terrorists either, that's how statistics are manipulated easily or misunderstood is classifications.

I absolutely do not accept the ADL as a credible source. Heavy bias from them. The Nashville school shooting was a left wing extremism shooting so yeah no that one is garbage, CATO might be somewhat relevant but the time span is too long and I'm not really limiting what I'm trying to say by what's considered a terrorist attack. I'm talking about crime. Because I just don't see a ton of crime committed by right wingers like there is on the left. The left promotes crime and hatred and violence. People dying a lot from violence in left wing cities, a lot. I'm not even right wing bro it's just obvious. What left wing political opponent has been assassinated by a trump supporter?

Did you read the whole report that lists pretty much every crime discussed, or just simply dismiss ADL as not credible?

Did you miss the news about Melissa Hortman?
I know Trump has no idea, but you didn't hear about it?

Are you just feigning being obtuse, or are you actually thoroughly in the dark about right-wing violence?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Why do I suspect this is a massive lie...

Go watch the video yourself.
It's as real as it gets.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Wow, maybe an issue you shouldn't speak on. There was a whole new experience God had and thus we get the new testament. Some people or even God can change their mind when confronted with new information; after all we're not liberals.

You're joking, yes?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

There are a couple of points I'd like to make... 1st... to the idiot thugs in Chicago who were threatening the United States Military if they go there. Do these ignorant thugs not understand that the past governments, the one's they voted for, have conveniently placed them in housing so that they know where they are. Easily reached from a distance if needed.

2nd. To the soft liberals who think a civil war would turn out in their favor... do you people not understand who conservative Americans are? 2A advocates with arsenals. Hunter/snipers for FUN. You people may want to rethink your decisions before you go much further.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Is Theology Professor RobGMN educating the forum on the lord?

Having spent time in seminary, I'm sure I can speak more about religion than you can speak about human anatomy.

Wanna have a go, Mike?