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[RobGMN Premium Member]

No, you are going to have to try harder to make a claim like that. My words are fine. What I found offensive was your manipulation of my words to change the meaning.

A verbatim quote is not a manipulation.
You should have paid attention in school.

No, combative and high strung people do what you do. Why don't you just let a person answer instead of assuming you know what they will say. You do this all the time and it is how arguments start. You know, when you tell people what they think.

People in Condition White just coast through life unaware, and unprepared.
That's you.

You simultanteously claim that you think "outside the box" and don't just accept what people say, while trying to make it seem like a bad thing that I consider the possibile answers I may get to a question.
You really have no ability to maintain a consistent line.

The two go hand and hand. You can spin it if you like so you can feel like you are a winner. I don't care. Most people already know they go hand and hand. How did you miss out on so much in life?

A promotion is not a raise, even if a raise may come with a promtion. And, a raise is not a promotion.

No matter how you spin it, you didn't comprehend what I posted, and made a fool of yourself again.

I am unique.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

A verbatim quote is not a manipulation.
You should have paid attention in school.

That dog won't hunt. You left off a word which means your word for word quote (verbatim) is not a verbatim quote.

People in Condition White just coast through life unaware, and unprepared.
That's you.

You are entitled to your opinions, no matter how wrong they are.

You simultanteously claim that you think "outside the box" and don't just accept what people say, while trying to make it seem like a bad thing that I consider the possibile answers I may get to a question.
You really have no ability to maintain a consistent line.

That is not what you do. You accept only those answers in opposition to the person you are arguing with.

A promotion is not a raise, even if a raise may come with a promtion. And, a raise is not a promotion.

I am happy you know the difference between at least two things in life. However, I already know they are different. I said they typically go hand and hand. But keep arguing the same point in different ways, I am sure that will change the outcome in your favor some how.

No matter how you spin it, you didn't comprehend what I posted, and made a fool of yourself again.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to boost your own ego.

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Remember that.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That dog won't hunt. You left off a word which means your word for word quote (verbatim) is not a verbatim quote.

How many times are you goign to show the group that you don't understand what a verbatim quote is? A dozen? Two dozen? This has to be the tenth time you've done it so far.

verbatim - in a way that uses exactly the same words as were originally used:
Ex: Orlov claimed that Khrushchev had lifted whole paragraphs verbatim from the Russian-language version of his book.

You are entitled to your opinions, no matter how wrong they are.

And then you demonstrate how unaware you really are.

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That is not what you do. You accept only those answers in opposition to the person you are arguing with.

Why would I disregard facts that prove what someone is claiming is incorrect?
Did your mom and dad reward you for being wrong, or something?

I am happy you know the difference between at least two things in life. However, I already know they are different. I said they typically go hand and hand. But keep arguing the same point in different ways, I am sure that will change the outcome in your favor some how.

I said "promotion" in response to your claim I don't advance in my job.
You took "promotion" as "raise", which people commonly get on a schedule.

If you know the differecne, why bring up "raise" when it has no relevance? Did you once again just want to share a piece of information that you recently learned?
I can't wait 'til you read about Cooper's Color Code, and share with us some information abotu why red paint is used on barns.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to boost your own ego.

No spin at all. You got confused by "promotion", and decided to conflate it with "raise". Perhaps you never got a promotion?

Remember that.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

How many times are you goign to show the group that you don't understand what a verbatim quote is? A dozen? Two dozen? This has to be the tenth time you've done it so far.

verbatim - in a way that uses exactly the same words as were originally used:
Ex: Orlov claimed that Khrushchev had lifted whole paragraphs verbatim from the Russian-language version of his book.

It's sad that you will claim I am wrong, post an example that proves YOU wrong and go on like everything is everything.

For the last time you dumb ****...

If a person says ONE word and you repeat the whole word, that is verbatim.
If a person says a sentence and you repeat the whole sentence from the first word to the last word and every word in between that is verbatim.
If a person say a paragraph and you repeat the whole paragraph from beginning to end leaving out nothing, that is verbatim.

I don't know where you got it in your head that you can leave out words and it be verbatim. At that point it IS a partial quote and not a verbatim quote.

And then you demonstrate how unaware you really are.

Jeff Cooper - Wikipedia

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Half the time I don't even know what YOU are talking about because your mind drifts then claim we were talking about something else.

Why would I disregard facts that prove what someone is claiming is incorrect?
Did your mom and dad reward you for being wrong, or something?

There is that ego of yours again with that NPD. You are never wrong are ya fella.

I said "promotion" in response to your claim I don't advance in my job.
You took "promotion" as "raise", which people commonly get on a schedule.

You don't advance by anything you are doing. As I said before you non comprehending glass licker, they are probably required to promote after a given amount of time.

If you know the differecne, why bring up "raise" when it has no relevance? Did you once again just want to share a piece of information that you recently learned?
I can't wait 'til you read about Cooper's Color Code, and share with us some information abotu why red paint is used on barns.

No spin at all. You got confused by "promotion", and decided to conflate it with "raise". Perhaps you never got a promotion?

Apparently you don't know the phrase "hand and hand". I will just assume it is because you are stupid.

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

It's sad that you will claim I am wrong, post an example that proves YOU wrong and go on like everything is everything.

For the last time you dumb ****...

If a person says ONE word and you repeat the whole word, that is verbatim.
If a person says a sentence and you repeat the whole sentence from the first word to the last word and every word in between that is verbatim.
If a person say a paragraph and you repeat the whole paragraph from beginning to end leaving out nothing, that is verbatim.

I don't know where you got it in your head that you can leave out words and it be verbatim. At that point it IS a partial quote and not a verbatim quote.

"A direct quotation reproduces words verbatim from another work or from your own previously published work."
"For quotations of fewer than 40 words, add quotation marks around the words and incorporate the quote into your own text—there is no additional formatting needed. Do not insert an ellipsis at the beginning and/or end of a quotation unless the original source includes an ellipsis.
Effective teams can be difficult to describe because “high performance along one domain does not translate to high performance along another” (Ervin et al., 2018, p. 470)."

Quotations

A direct quotation reproduces words verbatim from another work or from your own previously published work.

apastyle.apa.org

Hmmm, they provide an example of a verbatim quote that is a PARTIAL sentence.
But of course, you know better than them. Just like you know anatomy better than all of medical science. Just like you know the Aris men's gloves better than the guy who ran Aris-Isotoner for 15 years. Just like you know immunology and virology just as much (if not more) that all the people who worked on the COVID vaccine. Just like you know circuit design better than all the engineers who design amplifiers. Just like you know the COTUS better than the SCOTUS.

Is there ANYTHING you are not the supreme expert in, and know more about, than even the most learned experts?

Half the time I don't even know what YOU are talking about because your mind drifts then claim we were talking about something else.

Well. at least you admit your comprehension and ability to understand is poor.
It's a start.

There is that ego of yours again with that NPD. You are never wrong are ya fella.

If you understood what the word ironic means, you'd see the irony in that.

You don't advance by anything you are doing. As I said before you non comprehending glass licker, they are probably required to promote after a given amount of time.

I don't work for the military. In my agency, promotions are earned.
In case you get confused again, a promotion is not a raise.

Apparently you don't know the phrase "hand and hand". I will just assume it is because you are stupid.

Apparently you don't even know the idiom is "hand IN hand", not "hand AND hand".
Pretty ironic that you use the wrong phrase in an attempt to call me stupid, which demonstrates your own stupidity.

I'll wait for your ten posts where you try to claim you used the right phrase, and everyone else is wrong, or that the way you phrased it is just another version, or some other stupid excuse.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

"A direct quotation reproduces words verbatim from another work or from your own previously published work."
"For quotations of fewer than 40 words, add quotation marks around the words and incorporate the quote into your own text—there is no additional formatting needed. Do not insert an ellipsis at the beginning and/or end of a quotation unless the original source includes an ellipsis.
Effective teams can be difficult to describe because “high performance along one domain does not translate to high performance along another” (Ervin et al., 2018, p. 470)."

Quotations

A direct quotation reproduces words verbatim from another work or from your own previously published work.

apastyle.apa.org

Hmmm, they provide an example of a verbatim quote that is a PARTIAL sentence.
But of course, you know better than them. Just like you know anatomy better than all of medical science. Just like you know the Aris men's gloves better than the guy who ran Aris-Isotoner for 15 years. Just like you know immunology and virology just as much (if not more) that all the people who worked on the COVID vaccine. Just like you know circuit design better than all the engineers who design amplifiers. Just like you know the COTUS better than the SCOTUS.

SHUT THE **** UP!!!

Partial Quotes​

If you decide to leave out part of a quotation within your paper, you must still let your reader know that you have left out part of the quote. This is where an ellipsis (...) is needed.

Example​

• In "How to Write with Style," famed sci-fi writer Kurt Vonnegut (1982) notes that "I myself find that I trust my writing...when I sound most like a person from Indianapolis" (p. 152).

So when you left off the word YOUR when you quoted me your quote should have started with ... then you would site where the quote was from that way the reader can see for themselves what was left off, indicated by the ******* ellipsis. You *******.

Is there ANYTHING you are not the supreme expert in, and know more about, than even the most learned experts?

No, you hold that title.

Well. at least you admit your comprehension and ability to understand is poor.
It's a start.

Right. We all have seen your comprehension level.

If you understood what the word ironic means, you'd see the irony in that.

Still acting like you use the word correctly huh.

I don't work for the military. In my agency, promotions are earned.
In case you get confused again, a promotion is not a raise.
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Here you go trying to teach again. Like I said, YOU don't earn shit. Especially admitting you have no drive to better your job.

Apparently you don't even know the idiom is "hand IN hand", not "hand AND hand".
Pretty ironic that you use the wrong phrase in an attempt to call me stupid, which demonstrates your own stupidity.

Thanks for the lesson... at least you make it easy to prove that you are willfully stupid as well as ignorant. You can get shit like this right by searching Google because you can prove someone wrong but you refuse to be as diligent when facts prove you wrong. In fact, you refuse those facts. It's like you think if you don't verify facts that prove you wrong then technically you haven't been proved wrong. Hand in Hand, Hand AND Hand... who gives a ****. You knew what the **** I meant you douche canoe.

I'll wait for your ten posts where you try to claim you used the right phrase, and everyone else is wrong, or that the way you phrased it is just another version, or some other stupid excuse.

Says the guy who HAS to post or his ******* brain will fry. Clown.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Thanks for the lesson... at least you make it easy to prove that you are willfully stupid as well as ignorant. You can get shit like this right by searching Google because you can prove someone wrong but you refuse to be as diligent when facts prove you wrong. In fact, you refuse those facts. It's like you think if you don't verify facts that prove you wrong then technically you haven't been proved wrong. Hand in Hand, Hand AND Hand... who gives a ****. You knew what the **** I meant you douche canoe.

Total willful ignorance. We supposed to believe "the expert" about leather shrinking over our own real life experiences - that's the definition of willful ignorance. Just because he's willing to ignore that his leather goods didn't shrink up when they got wet, he expects us to too. Ignore the fact that leather is popular due to its water resistance, ignore the fact that leather is treated to resist moisture, etc, etc, etc.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

SHUT THE **** UP!!!

Partial Quotes​

If you decide to leave out part of a quotation within your paper, you must still let your reader know that you have left out part of the quote. This is where an ellipsis (...) is needed.

Example​

• In "How to Write with Style," famed sci-fi writer Kurt Vonnegut (1982) notes that "I myself find that I trust my writing...when I sound most like a person from Indianapolis" (p. 152).

So when you left off the word YOUR when you quoted me your quote should have started with ... then you would site where the quote was from that way the reader can see for themselves what was left off, indicated by the ******* ellipsis. You *******.

A lot of typing to again you don't understand the simple concept .
But of course, I'm sure you know better than all the language experts who create and teach the rules. Right?
Feel free to share the ISBN so I can take a look at YOUR explanation of how a verbatim quote works.

"When removing words at the beginning or end of a quote, you do not need to provide an ellipsis--only use when omitting words from the middle of a quoted sentence."

Challenge | UAGC Writing Center

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"It is rarely necessary to use ellipsis points at the beginning of a quotation, even if the quotation begins mid-sentence."

Ellipses | The Punctuation Guide

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"Ellipses should be used only in the middle and at the end of a quotation; they are not used at the beginning."

Quotations, ellipses in

Quotations, ellipses in

www.skidmore.edu

"Do not use the ellipsis at the beginning of a sentence."

Quotations and Ellipsis Marks in Research | Tutoring Resources

Avoid errors with quotation and ellipsis marks in research by following clear punctuation guidelines.

stlcc.edu

"Do not insert an ellipsis at the beginning and/or end of a quotation unless the original source includes an ellipsis."

Quotations

A direct quotation reproduces words verbatim from another work or from your own previously published work.

apastyle.apa.org

"(Exception: it is not necessary to use an ellipsis when omitting words at the beginning of a quote unless you are using a block quote format)."

Quotation Basics: Grammar, Punctuation, and Style

Some General Quotation Guidelines In an effort to make our handouts more accessible, we have begun converting our PDF handouts to web pages. Download this page as a PDF: Quotation Grammar, Punctuation, and Style Return to Writing Studio Handouts When writing a formal essay, you will often need...

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No, you hold that title.

Right. We all have seen your comprehension level.

Tell us more about how a promotion is just a raise.

Still acting like you use the word correctly huh.

Ironic that you don't understand the word, yet comment on others' use of it.

Here you go trying to teach again. Like I said, YOU don't earn shit. Especially admitting you have no drive to better your job.

A promotion every 4 years on average. Not that you would know what a promotion is, or being able to stay at a job for 4 years...

Thanks for the lesson... at least you make it easy to prove that you are willfully stupid as well as ignorant. You can get shit like this right by searching Google because you can prove someone wrong but you refuse to be as diligent when facts prove you wrong. In fact, you refuse those facts. It's like you think if you don't verify facts that prove you wrong then technically you haven't been proved wrong. Hand in Hand, Hand AND Hand... who gives a ****. You knew what the **** I meant you douche canoe.

I know what the RIGHT phrase is, but you didn't, and posted the WRONG phrase.
Tell me that 2+2=5, then tell me I knew that you MEANT 4.
You still got it wrong, and still look the fool.

Says the guy who HAS to post or his ******* brain will fry. Clown.

More irony.
You should write a book of ironic phrases. But don't TRY. Just write like you normally do.
If you actually tried, you'd probably end up with something like the lyrics to an Alanis Morissette song.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Total willful ignorance. We supposed to believe "the expert" about leather shrinking over our own real life experiences - that's the definition of willful ignorance. Just because he's willing to ignore that his leather goods didn't shrink up when they got wet, he expects us to too. Ignore the fact that leather is popular due to its water resistance, ignore the fact that leather is treated to resist moisture, etc, etc, etc.

We get it. You know more about Aris gloves than the guy who was VP and GM of Aris Isotoner. The guy who was "responsible for the design, manufacturing, production, raw material, sales and marketing of all men's gloves." ( a verbatim quote, BTW).

Which leather glove manufacturer did YOU work for? How many years? What was your position in the company?
Or are you a sideline expert like Thxone, who knows better than the likes of all medical science, all mathematicians, all immunologists and virologists, all linguists, all electrical engineers, all attorneys, all judges, all LE officers...
(ellipsis used to show that there is more to the list)


MR. DARDEN: Mr. Rubin, who was your employer during 1990?
MR. RUBIN: Aris Isotoner.
MR. DARDEN: And what was your position at that time?
MR. RUBIN: I was vice president and general manager.
MR. DARDEN: When did you first begin with the company?
MR. RUBIN: I started with them in 1976.
MR. DARDEN: Okay. And what were your duties in your capacity as vice president and general manager?
MR. RUBIN: I was responsible for the design, manufacturing, production, raw material, sales and marketing of all men's gloves.

MR. RUBIN: What happens when gloves get wet, the water or whatever it is that actually wets the glove absorbs small amounts of the fat liquor which creates shrinkage. Over time, as the gloves try naturally, the gloves actually can come back very close to its original shape, but they will never come back to the original size, because once a certain percentage of the fat liquor disappears, the glove loses a little of it's elasticity.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Total willful ignorance. We supposed to believe "the expert" about leather shrinking over our own real life experiences - that's the definition of willful ignorance. Just because he's willing to ignore that his leather goods didn't shrink up when they got wet, he expects us to too. Ignore the fact that leather is popular due to its water resistance, ignore the fact that leather is treated to resist moisture, etc, etc, etc.

He was probably going off something he believe or was told...very few executives are hands on enough to know much of product beyond knowing if it's profitable to keep making

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

MR. DARDEN: Mr. Rubin, has Rob been a tool since meeting him in 1990?
MR. RUBIN: very much so.
MR. DARDEN: And what was your opinion at that time?
MR. RUBIN: That Rob would have a long career getting someone coffee.
MR. DARDEN: When did you first begin to come to that opinion?
MR. RUBIN: It started when I mentioned the grass was a lovely rich green and he proceeded to argue it was actually the color seafoam and he pulled out a large paint sample ring.
MR. DARDEN: Okay. And what did you believe his career prospects would encompass?
MR. RUBIN: I was positive that at some point in his life he would be a glorified secretary who tell everyone about how he "prosecutes" people. And lord help us all if there were to be an electronic meets of group communication. I'd wager my stake in Aris that he would argue improper punctuation makes point invalid.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Can't argue with the testimony

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

A lot of typing to again you don't understand the simple concept .
But of course, I'm sure you know better than all the language experts who create and teach the rules. Right?
Feel free to share the ISBN so I can take a look at YOUR explanation of how a verbatim quote works.

"When removing words at the beginning or end of a quote, you do not need to provide an ellipsis--only use when omitting words from the middle of a quoted sentence."

Challenge | UAGC Writing Center

writingcenter.uagc.edu

"It is rarely necessary to use ellipsis points at the beginning of a quotation, even if the quotation begins mid-sentence."

Ellipses | The Punctuation Guide

www.thepunctuationguide.com

"Ellipses should be used only in the middle and at the end of a quotation; they are not used at the beginning."

Quotations, ellipses in

Quotations, ellipses in

www.skidmore.edu

"Do not use the ellipsis at the beginning of a sentence."

Quotations and Ellipsis Marks in Research | Tutoring Resources

Avoid errors with quotation and ellipsis marks in research by following clear punctuation guidelines.

stlcc.edu

"Do not insert an ellipsis at the beginning and/or end of a quotation unless the original source includes an ellipsis."

Quotations

A direct quotation reproduces words verbatim from another work or from your own previously published work.

apastyle.apa.org

"(Exception: it is not necessary to use an ellipsis when omitting words at the beginning of a quote unless you are using a block quote format)."

Quotation Basics: Grammar, Punctuation, and Style

Some General Quotation Guidelines In an effort to make our handouts more accessible, we have begun converting our PDF handouts to web pages. Download this page as a PDF: Quotation Grammar, Punctuation, and Style Return to Writing Studio Handouts When writing a formal essay, you will often need...

www.vanderbilt.edu

Tell us more about how a promotion is just a raise.

Ironic that you don't understand the word, yet comment on others' use of it.


A promotion every 4 years on average. Not that you would know what a promotion is, or being able to stay at a job for 4 years...

I know what the RIGHT phrase is, but you didn't, and posted the WRONG phrase.
Tell me that 2+2=5, then tell me I knew that you MEANT 4.
You still got it wrong, and still look the fool.

More irony.
You should write a book of ironic phrases. But don't TRY. Just write like you normally do.
If you actually tried, you'd probably end up with something like the lyrics to an Alanis Morissette song.

Cool, clearly you are just going to blab on and on and on.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Cool, clearly you are just going to blab on and on and on.

But Rob was right...the glove suit really does know he's saying

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

A lot of typing to again you don't understand the simple concept .
But of course, I'm sure you know better than all the language experts who create and teach the rules. Right?
Feel free to share the ISBN so I can take a look at YOUR explanation of how a verbatim quote works.

"When removing words at the beginning or end of a quote, you do not need to provide an ellipsis--only use when omitting words from the middle of a quoted sentence."

Challenge | UAGC Writing Center

writingcenter.uagc.edu

"It is rarely necessary to use ellipsis points at the beginning of a quotation, even if the quotation begins mid-sentence."

Ellipses | The Punctuation Guide

www.thepunctuationguide.com

"Ellipses should be used only in the middle and at the end of a quotation; they are not used at the beginning."

Quotations, ellipses in

Quotations, ellipses in

www.skidmore.edu

"Do not use the ellipsis at the beginning of a sentence."

Quotations and Ellipsis Marks in Research | Tutoring Resources

Avoid errors with quotation and ellipsis marks in research by following clear punctuation guidelines.

stlcc.edu

"Do not insert an ellipsis at the beginning and/or end of a quotation unless the original source includes an ellipsis."

Quotations

A direct quotation reproduces words verbatim from another work or from your own previously published work.

apastyle.apa.org

"(Exception: it is not necessary to use an ellipsis when omitting words at the beginning of a quote unless you are using a block quote format)."

Quotation Basics: Grammar, Punctuation, and Style

Some General Quotation Guidelines In an effort to make our handouts more accessible, we have begun converting our PDF handouts to web pages. Download this page as a PDF: Quotation Grammar, Punctuation, and Style Return to Writing Studio Handouts When writing a formal essay, you will often need...

www.vanderbilt.edu

Tell us more about how a promotion is just a raise.

Ironic that you don't understand the word, yet comment on others' use of it.


A promotion every 4 years on average. Not that you would know what a promotion is, or being able to stay at a job for 4 years...

I know what the RIGHT phrase is, but you didn't, and posted the WRONG phrase.
Tell me that 2+2=5, then tell me I knew that you MEANT 4.
You still got it wrong, and still look the fool.

More irony.
You should write a book of ironic phrases. But don't TRY. Just write like you normally do.
If you actually tried, you'd probably end up with something like the lyrics to an Alanis Morissette song.

Tell us how you haven't been booted off a half dozen forums for this same bullshit.