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[ThxOne Premium Member]

We are talking about finances, mathematics, economics, statistics.
You have no grasp of any of those things, yet attempt to argue your own false and irrelevant points.

REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS HAVE SPENT MORE PER TERM THAN DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS.
THAT MEANS THE REPUBLICANS ADD MORE TO THE DEBT THAN DEMOCRATS.

It's really no wonder you haven't gone anywhere in life. You will argue your false claims to the death, instead of admitting you are wrong and actually <gassp> LEARN something.

You made this false statement.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Please show me where I am wrong when I say that the Republicans added more to the national debt per term than the Democrats id.

Use math, not repetition of your lies.

• Looking at U.S. presidents since 1913, Republican presidents added about $1.4 trillion per four-year term, compared to $1.2 trillion added by Democrats.

Show us all how $1.2 Trillion is more than $1.4 trillion. In case the decimals confuse you, tell us how $1,200,000,000,000.00 is mroe than $1,400,000,000.00

You said that more is more, but want to argue the opposite.
So, show us how less is actually more.

I love how you can't stop yourself from not listening. You just have to keep talking about "per term". How many times do I have to say it? Overall you idiot, Overall!!!

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Even the United States Government says the Democrats add more to the debt...

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

I love how you can't stop yourself from not listening. You just have to keep talking about "per term". How many times do I have to say it? Overall you idiot, Overall!!!

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Even the United States Government says the Democrats add more to the debt...

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An irrelevant metric when talking about who adds more to the debt.

Who is the better team, one that wins 70 of 100 games, or one that wins 100 of 250 games?

The one that wins 100, because it's MORE, right?

I'll bet you were one of those people who felt it was a ripoff that a 1/3 pound burger cost more than a 1/4 pounder.
Four is bigger than three, right?

 

[chillin 10+ year member]

I love how you can't stop yourself from not listening. You just have to keep talking about "per term". How many times do I have to say it? Overall you idiot, Overall!!!

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Even the United States Government says the Democrats add more to the debt...

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But in this situation, Rob is right.
If your wife does the grocery shopping 90% of the time and you only shop 10% of the time, she's going to pay more for groceries than you in a year. Even if ever time she shops, she spends $100 and you spend $200, she's still doing more shopping and spending more overall. Does that mean she's the reason your grocery bills are so high? No, because if you shopped 50% of the time, they're actually be higher.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

No, more is more and OVERALL Democrats have added more to the nations debt. Republicans "chunks" are more but Democrats have more chunks and the total of theirs is more. It's pretty simple math.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

An irrelevant metric when talking about who adds more to the debt.

Is it really? You think Republicans add more because the times they have added it has been slightly more than Democrats however Democrats add to it more often though slightly less each time. Because Democrats have added more overall you claim it is an irrelevant metric. It's all money added to the debt but because factually more has been added by Democrats... it is irrelevant. Do you think the debt resets each term?? No, so it is relevant.

I'll bet you were one of those people who felt it was a ripoff that a 1/3 pound burger cost more than a 1/4 pounder.
Four is bigger than three, right?

So you want to insult me because I am right. Sounds typical.

 

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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Republican #1 adds $100 to the debt
Democrat #1 adds $75
Democrat #2 adds $80
Democrat #3 adds $70
Democrat #4 adds $90
Democrat #5 adds $85
Republican #2 adds $150


By Robs logic the Republicans have added more to the debt. You know, because $250 is MORE than $400. Idiot.

 

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[chillin 10+ year member]

Republican #1 adds $100 to the debt
Democrat #1 adds $75
Democrat #2 adds $80
Democrat #3 adds $70
Democrat #4 adds $90
Democrat #5 adds $85
Republican #2 adds $150


By Robs logic the Republicans have added more to the debt. You know, because $250 is MORE than $400. Idiot.

Yes, the Democrats have added more overall debt than the Republicans because they've been in power more. You are right about that. However, if you look at what you just typed out, after bringing in Republican 2 and he adds almost twice the debt of Democrat 5 in his first term, would you re-elect him? You're kind of proving the point you're trying to make for the wrong side.

I know it's not that simple and there are different policies and tax cuts for certain people that are more attractive to right or left depending on your situation. But you can see in your example why the Democrats have caused more debt. They've been in power more, but based on the numbers you've both shown, the debt would be even higher had the Republicans been in power more.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yes, the Democrats have added more overall debt than the Republicans because they've been in power more. You are right about that. However, if you look at what you just typed out, after bringing in Republican 2 and he adds almost twice the debt of Democrat 5 in his first term, would you re-elect him? You're kind of proving the point you're trying to make for the wrong side.

I know it's not that simple and there are different policies and tax cuts for certain people that are more attractive to right or left depending on your situation. But you can see in your example why the Democrats have caused more debt. They've been in power more, but based on the numbers you've both shown, the debt would be even higher had the Republicans been in power more.

The point was that overall Democrats have added more. I am aware of the rest and never disputed it. RobGMN however has to argue no matter what.

Yes, I would reelect him. Democrats keep electing their party even though they also have amassed a great debt to this country, a greater debt. It's a no win situation.

One more thing... The Debt being higher if Republicans were in the White house more is just an assumption. It takes more money to undo the Democrats screw ups.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I am just happy Rob is wrong and is sticking to being wrong.

It's not just Rob, the DNC & libs in general seem unwilling to change or moderate their positions.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yes, the Democrats have added more overall debt than the Republicans because they've been in power more. You are right about that. However, if you look at what you just typed out, after bringing in Republican 2 and he adds almost twice the debt of Democrat 5 in his first term, would you re-elect him? You're kind of proving the point you're trying to make for the wrong side.

I know it's not that simple and there are different policies and tax cuts for certain people that are more attractive to right or left depending on your situation. But you can see in your example why the Democrats have caused more debt. They've been in power more, but based on the numbers you've both shown, the debt would be even higher had the Republicans been in power more.

Currently, conservatives (as in voters + TrumpCO & Elon, not necessarily politicians) overwhelming support spending cuts. OTHO, the left seems determined to maintain maximum spending even when ridiculous spending pracitices, policies and programs are exposed.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The lawsuits are to prevent Trump, Musk, and DOGE from doing things ILLEGALLY.

Ya' see, we have these crazy looney lefty things in this country called LAWS.
These LAWS help guide the actions of the people by preventing them from doing things they shouldn't do, and (shocking to some), they apply even to Dear Leader and his benefactor boyfriend Musk.

Since you decided to bring up Obama's deportations without ansering the last time, I'll ask again: What part of the deportations were done ILLEGALLY?
And I'll ask the same about Clinton's budget slashing: What part of it was done ILLEGALLY?

Can you at least answer those questions if you're going to compare Obama and Clinton to Trump/Musk?

LOL - now you expect me to believe the left is the law and order party.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

But in this situation, Rob is right.
If your wife does the grocery shopping 90% of the time and you only shop 10% of the time, she's going to pay more for groceries than you in a year. Even if ever time she shops, she spends $100 and you spend $200, she's still doing more shopping and spending more overall. Does that mean she's the reason your grocery bills are so high? No, because if you shopped 50% of the time, they're actually be higher.

If, hypothetically, Dem deficit spending is a result of just spending more time in power, then why have they never used that time in power to reduce spending as Trump currently is attempting to do? Personally, I'm more concerned about the present and at the present the left is highly committed to keeping spending as high as possible regardless of what ridiculous programs, practices and policies DOGE uncovers. They'll use the courts to muck everything up and when these issues go before the legislature, we know the Dems will do everything to grind the system to a halt.