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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Hey Rob.... Trump is president. Elon is kicking *** with DOGE. America is becoming great again.

DOGE is reporting an $8M "savings" as $8 BILLION.
That sounds like fraud to me.

But among the 1,100-plus contracts purportedly canceled, POLITICO found:

• Contracts that had not yet been awarded
• Instances where a single pot of money is listed multiple times — tripling or quadrupling the amount of savings claimed
• Purchase agreements that have no record of being canceled, but were instead stripped of language related to diversity, equity and inclusion
• Contract savings identified by DOGE that do not match with records they refer to in the Federal Procurement Data System
• Contracts where the underlying document is for an entirely different contract

That sounds like a lot of fraudulent reporting by DOGE, uncovered by Politico.
Maybe that's why they hate Politico so much.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Bumping up those unemployment numbers. MAGA!!!

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I think it's insane to pursue somebody under the guise of fraud when the supposed victim determined Trump's wealth independent of Trump, got repaid and said they weren't defrauded. That would be like you pursuing welfare fraud cases when the State said they weren't defrauded. TDS runs deep.

I would say that would be someone making decisions based on their FEELINGS and not proof or facts.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

DOGE is reporting an $8M "savings" as $8 BILLION.
That sounds like fraud to me.

But among the 1,100-plus contracts purportedly canceled, POLITICO found:

• Contracts that had not yet been awarded
• Instances where a single pot of money is listed multiple times — tripling or quadrupling the amount of savings claimed
• Purchase agreements that have no record of being canceled, but were instead stripped of language related to diversity, equity and inclusion
• Contract savings identified by DOGE that do not match with records they refer to in the Federal Procurement Data System
• Contracts where the underlying document is for an entirely different contract

That sounds like a lot of fraudulent reporting by DOGE, uncovered by Politico.
Maybe that's why they hate Politico so much.

I am sure that is the way Politico wants it to look too. They are biased to the left. Just as you are, just as all the TDS people.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I am sure that is the way Politico wants it to look too. They are biased to the left. Just as you are, just as all the TDS people.

Ahhh, so they can point out specifics where DOGE is committing fraud in their reporting, but that's "biased".

I guess any facts that make Trump, DOGE, or the right look bad must be "biased", huh?

Removing DEI language from a contract saves millions of dollars?
Sounds like a lie to me.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I would say that would be someone making decisions based on their FEELINGS and not proof or facts.

They've convinced themselves that Trump is the second coming of the Austrian painter who started WWII, and therefore see any actions they take as justified. I seriously hope that the standard in the EJ Carroll case doesn't become commonplace as it basically turns he said/she said cases into, she said it, therefore you're liable. Some of playboy friends from back in the day that have had significant financial success better hope that women they encountered in NY don't come looking for them. Crazy thing is these broads don't even need a date and time so there is no way the alleged perp can provide an alibi. How that's legal is beyond me. I hope this is something that SCOTUS can overturn.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Answer the question: Do you think NO ONE should get prosecuted for breaking the law that Trump broke, or just that TRUMP shouldn't get prosecuted for breaking the law that he broke. In at least THIRTY FOUR different instances?

Article 175 | Penal Law | False Written Statements Offenses

Falsifying Business Records. Definition of Terms. Tampering with Public Records. Offering False Statements. False Financial Statements.

ypdcrime.com

Should these folks be exonerated, for committing the same felony Trump did?
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I've answered the question numerous times, just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean the answer hasn't been offered up.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

DOGE is reporting an $8M "savings" as $8 BILLION.
That sounds like fraud to me.

But among the 1,100-plus contracts purportedly canceled, POLITICO found:

• Contracts that had not yet been awarded
• Instances where a single pot of money is listed multiple times — tripling or quadrupling the amount of savings claimed
• Purchase agreements that have no record of being canceled, but were instead stripped of language related to diversity, equity and inclusion
• Contract savings identified by DOGE that do not match with records they refer to in the Federal Procurement Data System
• Contracts where the underlying document is for an entirely different contract

That sounds like a lot of fraudulent reporting by DOGE, uncovered by Politico.
Maybe that's why they hate Politico so much.

Politico? The same Politico that was getting funds from USAID. Do you think they might be a tad biased?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

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Wow, still on the vandalism is domestic terrorism kick huh? You do know a bunch of these vandals have been caught and the DOJ has yet to step in and charge any of them with domestic terrorism. EDS has disconnected the left from reality.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Since when has the left been against higher taxes? And of course CNN assumes the tariffs won't be offset by income tax reductions.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/28/business/consumer-economy-recession/index.html

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I've answered the question numerous times, just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean the answer hasn't been offered up.

You actually haven't answered. You deflect off to irrrlevant stuff about how you think it's petty to go after Trump for breaking the law, or how the BANK doesn't care if he broke the law, or how they got their money back.

The question is whether you think NO ONE should be prosecuted for breaking the laws Trump broke, or if you think just Trump should be exempt?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Politico? The same Politico that was getting funds from USAID. Do you think they might be a tad biased?

"Getting funds".
You realize those "funds" were for paid subscriptions to the sites exclusive content, and that it was $22,000 in funds?

Do you think Politico (a decidedly nonpartisan site) is the only paywalled site that workers in the Federal Government are subscribed to?
Or do all the right-wing paywalled sites allow free access to Federal employees?
Fox News, Fox Business, Fox Nation, all free to federal employees?

Do you think all those federal buildings get free cable TV, or do they pay providers for it?
Trumps cellphone. Free service? Obamaphone, maybe?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Ahhh, so they can point out specifics where DOGE is committing fraud in their reporting, but that's "biased".

I guess any facts that make Trump, DOGE, or the right look bad must be "biased", huh?

Removing DEI language from a contract saves millions of dollars?
Sounds like a lie to me.

Biased... do you know what the word means? It doesn't mean they ONLY report on the bias. How have you gone this far, 50+ years, thinking all things are black and white. There is no in between? Do you think there is only right and wrong? Your post would state otherwise. Your black and white gets real cloudy when it comes to making Trump look bad.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Biased... do you know what the word means? It doesn't mean they ONLY report on the bias. How have you gone this far, 50+ years, thinking all things are black and white. There is no in between? Do you think there is only right and wrong? Your post would state otherwise. Your black and white gets real cloudy when it comes to making Trump look bad.

And yet every time you read about another failure by the right, it's either a conspiracy by Democrats pretending to be Republicans, or a conspiracy by the left to make up lies about the right.

To you, it's black or white: The right wing cannot do wrong; the left wing fabricates reality to make the right wing look bad.

FFS, you're still denying right-wingers culpability for the events of Jan 6th at the Capitol.