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[RobGMN Premium Member]

We need an updated version of our RobGPT. Preferably one that has reached sentience.

Or an updated version of the NCP Buck, who has a job and contributes to society, instead of feigning illness and ******* the welfare teat.

That shows average pay increase. Not the average pay raise. I explained the difference. When minimum wages go up, the average pay goes up for those making minimum wage, which is a huge percentage of workers. Look up the average pay raise that a company gives.

If you make more money, you make more money whether you call it an "increase" or a "raise".
4% more money in your pay is 4% more money in your pay. More is more.
Or, would you refuse 4% more pay because your employer called it an "increase" instead of a "raise"?

The stock market went up with, and it will again. The difference is, inflation did not make a huge jump at the same time. Biden's inflation made a huge hump in 2021.

Inflation doubled during Trump's first year in office, and held until the pandemic recession forced it down.
Please explain why it's good for Trump to double inflation rates with no major driving factors like a post-recession recovery.
Why did he double the rate if that is a bad thing to do?

Obama said "Industry in America is dead. I can't just wave a magic wand and it will be back." So according to Obama, Trump performed a miracle when he brought industry back.

By "industry", I'll assume you mean manufacturing, and not other business.
Here's the issue with your claim: By the time Trump left office, we were down 178,000 manufacturing jobs.
48,000 of those were gone before the pandemic even started.

So, the growth trend that started under Obama continued under Trump (albeit at a slower rate), but then started to decline in 2019 before the pandemic even hit.

1.2 million more jobs during Obama's term, but Trump made it only 2 years and 0.4 million jobs before things started to tail off. If you factor out the pandemic, and calculate Biden picking up where Trump started to decline, Biden "added" 0.3 million jobs.
But Trump is the industry hero and Obama and Biden are losers?
Interesting math, there.

Admit it, life was better under Trump. Interest rates were down, no wars were started, cost of living was down, the was a lot less stress. The only stress was the libs crying because they didn't win the office. Now they are crying again.

Interest rates dropped because the Fed dropped them in response to the economy going in the shitter.
That's what the Fed DOES.

Do you think banks accept lower interest out of the goodness of their heart? Hell no. It's to stimulate money flow.
Pick your local car dealership as an example. You think they are offering 0% financing ona car becasue business is slamming, and they are happy to just give money away? I sure hope not.
No, they are offering it becasue things are slow, the lots are full of stock, and new stock is coming soon. They need to stimulate sales, and are taking a financial hit to do so.
Economics 101

I drive 1 mile, round-trip, to work. However, there are 3 drivers in my house, and I have to fill up all three tanks. If it were just me, I wouldn't complain so much.

Everyone's life method. I was given my first bike. I wanted better. "Earn the money and buy one". So I did. I wanted a car, and knew damn well I had to earn it, without asking or being told. I WAS told "No way in hell you're going on my insurance plan", so I earned that money too.

If someone is old enough to drive, they are old enough to pay for their own gas, at the very least.
YMMV.

I understood it to be a joke.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That's a lot of words to avoid admitting the fact that your quote was a lie.

It doesn't match the closed-captions of the video YOU offered.
It doesn't match the transcript of the debate that is available on the ABC website.

You created your own quote of what was said, yet insist it is the correct one.
That's not how quotes work.

You were dishonest and are now trying to spin your way out out of it.

A President saying "We" is referring to migrants?
GMAFB

1. It is not MY quote, they are Biden's spoken words.
2. They are closed captions. Either AI generated or typed on the fly by a human which means errors are likely.
3. One video is of the debate the other is not. Of course the transcript from the debate will not match the other video.
4. I created nothing. I copied and pasted from the website hosting the video the quote from the video how he spoke it.
5. That is EXACTLY how a quote works. Welcome to the English language.
6. Posting the exact words someone says in the manner they spoke them is not dishonest.
7. When he said "we" he grouped himself in with the migrants, the topic of discussion.
8. Yes, please... go take a break... a long break.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Why is your tactic to get your personal views across to badger relentlessly everyone you speak to with endless amounts of what you think is proof to back your views up? Nobody cares Rob... TRUMP WON... you claimed he would lose... he WON. **** it up buttercup.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

How can lowing inflation hurt the economy and the country? It will make life easier for everyone. People will not have to rely on pay raises to survive. People won't be getting thrown out onto the streets because they can't afford rent or their house payment. Life was easy when Trump was in office. That's the fact. That's why so many people flipped from the democrat party and voted for Trump.

I was responding the post where Thxone said that prices would drop, and as a result wages would drop and people would get laid off. I said that sounded like a bad plan.

What is Trump's plan to prevent people from being evicted if they can't pay the rent? At least in my state, a person is given time to move out, then they get evicted. I hadn't heard about Trump's plan to force people to house others for free.
Makes me rethink buying another rental property.

1. It is not MY quote, they are Biden's spoken words.
2. They are closed captions. Either AI generated or typed on the fly by a human which means errors are likely.
3. One video is a the debate the other is not. Of course the transcript from the debate will not match the other video.
4. I created nothing. I copied and pasted from the website hosting the video the quote from the video how he spoke it.
5. That is EXACTLY how a quote works. Welcome to the English language.
6. Posting the exact words someone says in the manner they spoke them is not dishonest.
7. When he said "we" he grouped himself in with the migrants, the topic of discussion.
8. Yes, please... go take a break... a long break.

1. It was YOUR quote. YOU typed it the way you wanted it to be, which is different from the way its was spoken, the way it was closed-captioned, and the way it was transcribed. You thinking that your quote is identical to the captions or the transcription is false.
2. That's fair. Show me the corrections that were made to the captions or the transcription. Show me where you copied the quote from that you claimed was Biden's statement.
3. Nope. The quote you gave us in all its glory of big bold text was a modification of what was said. The thing about quotes is that you don't get to alter the words, punctuation, etc, within the quote. Anything in quotes must be EXACTLY what was said or written.
4. Fair enough. Link to the text you copied and pasted, that differs from the captions and the transcript. I'm cool with proof.
5. No, it's not. You don't get to rewrite a quote to make it say what you it to say. If you think it is, then here is a quote of something Trump said: "we're stupid. Come in and raid and **** our country." Do you think he really said that, or maybe I adjusted it for a new meaning?
Welcome to the written word.
6. Fair enough. Show me the captions, the transcript, or the text on a webpage you got your quote from. Should take all of 5 seconds.
7. Ahhh, so Biden thinks he is an immigrant and that our nation is all immigrants trying to get into America. Seems liek this conversation is going the direction of "alternative definitions" that you enjoy using to backpedal over things you have said. The whole in/through/near controversy. We means they. Got it.
8. My life is going to be a lot of breaks for the next 4-5 weeks.

Why is your tactic to get your personal views across to badger relentlessly everyone you speak to with endless amounts of what you think is proof to back your views up? Nobody cares Rob... TRUMP WON... you claimed he would lose... he WON. **** it up buttercup.

Is this your spin/backpedal. BS/misdirection?
1.You tell a lie.
2. You get caught.
3. It is proved that you lied.
4. You deny it, and the proof, but fail to provide any of your own.
5. You complain about the person who caught you, complain that there are facts involved, go off on an irrelevant tangent until short-memory people forget you lied.

I don't have a short memory.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I was responding the post where Thxone said that prices would drop, and as a result wages would drop and people would get laid off. I said that sounded like a bad plan.

What is Trump's plan to prevent people from being evicted if they can't pay the rent? At least in my state, a person is given time to move out, then they get evicted. I hadn't heard about Trump's plan to force people to house others for free.
Makes me rethink buying another rental property.

1. It was YOUR quote. YOU typed it the way you wanted it to be, which is different from the way its was spoken, the way it was closed-captioned, and the way it was transcribed. You thinking that your quote is identical to the captions or the transcription is false.
2. That's fair. Show me the corrections that were made to the captions or the transcription. Show me where you copied the quote from that you claimed was Biden's statement.
3. Nope. The quote you gave us in all its glory of big bold text was a modification of what was said. The thing about quotes is that you don't get to alter the words, punctuation, etc, within the quote. Anything in quotes must be EXACTLY what was said or written.
4. Fair enough. Link to the text you copied and pasted, that differs from the captions and the transcript. I'm cool with proof.
5. No, it's not. You don't get to rewrite a quote to make it say what you it to say. If you think it is, then here is a quote of something Trump said: "we're stupid. Come in and raid and **** our country." Do you think he really said that, or maybe I adjusted it for a new meaning?
Welcome to the written word.
6. Fair enough. Show me the captions, the transcript, or the text on a webpage you got your quote from. Should take all of 5 seconds.
7. Ahhh, so Biden thinks he is an immigrant and that our nation is all immigrants trying to get into America. Seems liek this conversation is going the direction of "alternative definitions" that you enjoy using to backpedal over things you have said. The whole in/through/near controversy. We means they. Got it.
8. My life is going to be a lot of breaks for the next 4-5 weeks.

Is this your spin/backpedal. BS/misdirection?
1.You tell a lie.
2. You get caught.
3. It is proved that you lied.
4. You deny it, and the proof, but fail to provide any of your own.
5. You complain about the person who caught you, complain that there are facts involved, go off on an irrelevant tangent until short-memory people forget you lied.

I don't have a short memory.

The problem Rob, your problem, is you think you are correct. You are not. I didn't type anything, I copied and pasted the quote. I am sorry you are too bitter to just go **** off somewhere but accusing me of doing things I did not do isn't going to help your argument or make you right.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

This is how he spoke in the video.

“I would, in fact, make sure that there is- (this is where he changes the sentence)-we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum. (This is where he emphasized the word asylum and then paused, ending that sentence)(He then starts a new sentence) "They deserve to be heard, that's who we are."

The captions are not correct. I don't care how much you want them to be. Go speak to a non biased English professor or grammar coach, have them watch the video and have them tell you what is what.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The problem Rob, your problem, is you think you are correct. You are not. I didn't type anything, I copied and pasted the quote. I am sorry you are too bitter to just go **** off somewhere but accusing me of doing things I did not do isn't going to help your argument or make you right.

That's what you keep claiming, yet you refuse to share the source where you "copied and pasted " it from.
In the amount of time you spent typing "go **** off somewhere", you could have pasted the link about 75 times.

So, how about in your next post, regardless of what the post is about, you just paste that link?
I'll catch it and see your proof.
Cool?

This is how he spoke in the video.

“I would, in fact, make sure that there is- (this is where he changes the sentence)-we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum. (This is where he emphasized the word asylum and then paused, ending that sentence)(He then starts a new sentence) "They deserve to be heard, that's who we are."

The captions are not correct. I don't care how much you want them to be. Go speak to a non biased English professor or grammar coach, have them watch the video and have them tell you what is what.

Wait a minute. You just said this: "I copied and pasted the quote." yet you are now saying "The captions are not correct." when the captions match the transcript, and neither the captions nor transcript match your quote.

So, did you copy and paste, or type it up from what you thought you heard?
Pick a story and stick to it, if you don't mind.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That's what you keep claiming, yet you refuse to share the source where you "copied and pasted " it from.
In the amount of time you spent typing "go **** off somewhere", you could have pasted the link about 75 times.

So, how about in your next post, regardless of what the post is about, you just paste that link?
I'll catch it and see your proof.
Cool?


Wait a minute. You just said this: "I copied and pasted the quote." yet you are now saying "The captions are not correct." when the captions match the transcript, and neither the captions nor transcript match your quote.

So, did you copy and paste, or type it up from what you thought you heard?
Pick a story and stick to it, if you don't mind.

Are you stupid or something? Two post above your last post is a screen capture of exactly where the quote came from. We are not here to cater to you Rob. You are wrong. Trump won. Go rub some dirt in your wounds.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Accept it or don't Rob, I don't care. You are a crybaby who can't admit defeat. The cool thing is, you don't have to accept it for it to be true.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Are you stupid or something? Two post above your last post is a screen capture of exactly where the quote came from. We are not here to cater to you Rob. You are wrong. Trump won. Go rub some dirt in your wounds.

Perhaps you are having vision problems.
It happens.

Here is what you claimed was a quote of his words, A quote that you somehow "copied an pasted" from the captioning on a YouTube video (we'll get to that later)
“I would, in fact, make sure that there is—we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum.”

Do you actually think that what you posted above is identical to the sentence in this picture you offer as proof?
I'll add your quote right below the picture to help out.

“I would, in fact, make sure that there is—we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum.”

Maybe you should try a few of those "spot the differences" games. I think your mind might be seeing things that don't exist, or failing to see things that DO exist.

As an aside, can you tell me how you copy and paste text from the closed-captioning on a YouTube video?
That could actually come in handy.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Perhaps you are having vision problems.
It happens.

Here is what you claimed was a quote of his words, A quote that you somehow "copied an pasted" from the captioning on a YouTube video (we'll get to that later)
“I would, in fact, make sure that there is—we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum.”

Do you actually think that what you posted above is identical to the sentence in this picture you offer as proof?
I'll add your quote right below the picture to help with the "spot the differences" game.
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“I would, in fact, make sure that there is—we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum.”

Maybe you should try a few of those "spot the differences" games. I think your mind might be seeing things that don't exist, or failing to see things that DO exist.

As an aside, can you tell me how you copy and paste text from the closed-captioning on a YouTube video?
That could actually come in handy.

You are in fact stupid. Thank you for answering by posting this. I never claimed the quote is the same at the captions. I said the captions are incorrect as the punctuation's are not correct. They are indicating he spoke in a different way than he actually did. You are choosing the incorrect punctuation in the closed captions because you think it makes you right. They can't because they are not correct themselves.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I want to know how you have the nerve to open the picture... crop off the quote... then claim I never posted it.

 

[mahc 10+ year member]

How libs/dems sound to normal people:

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You are in fact stupid. Thank you for answering by posting this. I never claimed the quote is the same at the captions. I said the captions are incorrect as the punctuation's are not correct. They are indicating he spoke in a different way than he actually did. You are choosing the incorrect punctuation in the closed captions because you think it makes you right. They can't because they are not correct themselves.

You quoted Kevin McCarthy, who wrote his own quote that differs from the captions AND from the transcript.
Kevin saw the captions, and decided to create his own version of what the captions said.

You did not indicate anywhere that you were quoting Kevin McCarthy, who was in turn misquoting Biden.
That is in fact, a stupid thing to do for someone who claims to understand language so well.
Repeating a misquote doesn't make the misquote correct or accurate.

I would like to know how you have the nerve to post a quote that you attribute to Biden, when it is actually a quote of what Kevin McCarthy chose to type and attribute to Biden.
That's rather dishonest.

I want to know how you have the nerve to open the picture... crop off the quote... then claim I never posted it.

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BTW - Your claim that no one is pushing religion on anybody...that was a lie.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You quoted Kevin McCarthy, who wrote his own quote that differs from the captions AND from the transcript.
Kevin saw the captions, and decided to create his own version of what the captions said.

You did not indicate anywhere that you were quoting Kevin McCarthy, who was in turn misquoting Biden.
That is in fact, a stupid thing to do for someone who claims to understand language so well.
Repeating a misquote doesn't make the misquote correct or accurate.

I would like to know how you have the nerve to post a quote that you attribute to Biden, when it is actually a quote of what Kevin McCarthy chose to type and attribute to Biden.
That's rather dishonest.

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BTW - Your claim that no one is pushing religion on anybody...that was a lie.

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Rob, I don't care. You are a liberal Democrat. Your goal is to argue. You don't care about anything else.

Trump won. Fair and Square. Dispute that.