Current events discussion

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

And he was investigated for ****** assault in 2017.
Starting to seem like a common denominator with Trump, huh?

Oh, and there's this little bit of info:
"Ahead of then President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration in January 2021, The Associated Press reported that 12 U.S. National Guard members were removed from helping to secure the event after vetting by the U.S. military and FBI. The members made extremist statements in posts or text messages or had ties with right-wing militia groups. "3

Hegseth was one of the 12 people.

And rich dudes are constantly target for these types of accusations. You're going to have a hard time convincing me that a guy that's used to banging models and **** stars is out there SA'ing women. If you're referring to E Jean Carroll, I find her totally uncredible. NY & Colorado weaponized the legal system against Trump. The Georgia case, which has merit (IMHO), is being botched by their AG and I assume will be put on hold while Trump is POTUS. Perhaps the Dems can bring the Georgia case to Congress as an impeachment case.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

And he was investigated for ****** assault in 2017.
Starting to seem like a common denominator with Trump, huh?

Oh, and there's this little bit of info:
"Ahead of then President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration in January 2021, The Associated Press reported that 12 U.S. National Guard members were removed from helping to secure the event after vetting by the U.S. military and FBI. The members made extremist statements in posts or text messages or had ties with right-wing militia groups. "3

Hegseth was one of the 12 people.

Hegseth was flagged for having a "Deus Vult" tattoo, which roughly translates to "God's Will." Of course that tattoo makes Hegseth an extremist, terrorist, racist & *********. Deus Vult has been a rallying cry of Christians since the 11th century. I don't care that he got pulled off that detail in an overabundance of security after the Jan 6th riots, but I think is a pretty minor issue that we can ignore unless there some evidence that this guy is actually a white supremist beyond he's white, conservative, Christian and has a tattoo.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

unless there some evidence that this guy is actually a white supremist beyond he's white, conservative, Christian and has a tattoo.

That and the "wrong" political views are all it takes to prove you're a white supremacists these days...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So anything negative that happened under Trump is Biden's fault.
And Trump failed to react to all the things that were Biden's fault.

And Biden snuck millions of illegals across the border when no one was looking.
Maybe they were the people that stole, filled out, and submitted the many millions of "fraudulent" ballots for Biden? Like a secret illegal immigrant SEAL team. Coming here to make $5 an hour picking cabbage, but able to pull off a massive conspiracy without leaving a single trace, hahahahaha.

Biden didn't sneak anybody across the border. But his (Harris's) policy of letting anybody who gets caught here illegally just claim asylum is insanity. Even if the administration thought that was good policy, why didn't they change course when it became obvious that Venezuelan gangs where using lax immigration policy as cover to sneak into the US?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That and the "wrong" political views are all it takes to prove you're a white supremacists these days...

Exactly,

"We shouldn't give kids puberty blockers" means you're a transphobe.
"Treat all races equally" means you're a white supremacist (even if you're a minority)
"Enforce existing laws" means you're a fascist
"Pro-life" means you're a misogynist
etc, etc, etc.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Instead of doing all that, why don't you just stay on topic and speak to the false claim you made about Biden telling immigrants to "surge the border", and speak to the actual words he spoke in the debate?
Here they are. Again.
Please explain how you understood his words as "hey migrants, you should surge the border":

The word "surge" was used 5x in the debate. Three of those were in regard to medical care. Two had to do with the border:
"Look, we can deal with securing the border by national technical means. All the bad things are coming through ports of entry right now, we don't need a wall. And by the way, I would immediately as President, surge to the border, I would end this notion for the first time in history that people seeking asylum have to be in squalor on the other side of the river, in a desperate situation. They should be able to come to the United States and have a judgment made as whether or not they qualify. I would also surge to the border immigration judges to make decisions immediately and no one, no one would be put in jail while waiting for their hearing."

Do you think Biden is an illegal? Do you think immigration judges are illegals? It seems he only suggested himself, or judges, surge the border.

One doesn't have to say surge to create a surge.

During his 2020 presidential campaign, Joe Biden promised a stark departure from the immigration policies of the Trump administration.

He pledged a 100-day moratorium on deportations after taking office. He promised to protect sanctuary cities from federal law enforcement agencies. And he harshly criticized the Trump administration’s treatment of undocumented immigrants at the southern border, asserting that America had the capacity to “absorb people” while calling on asylum seekers to “surge” to the border

“We could afford to take in a heartbeat another two million,” Biden said at one event in August 2019. “The idea that a country of 330 million people cannot absorb people who are in desperate need and who are justifiably fleeing oppression is absolutely bizarre.”

An estimated 3 million migrants who have been encountered at the southern border since Biden took office in January 2021 remain in the US, according to figures flagged by the Biden administration.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/07/politics/kfile-biden-2-million-migrants-asylum-seekers-immigration-crisis/index.html

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Danny Devito is 4'10" tall. is it an insult to say he is short?

You don't even understand inclusiveness yet you talk like you're part of the dem party...

 

[Old_Slapper]

If you look at the chart, it has been over 4% since he took office. Do you think they are simply fabricating all these numbers and our economic history to make Trump look bad?
If so, then any discussion is moot.
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That shows average pay increase. Not the average pay raise. I explained the difference. When minimum wages go up, the average pay goes up for those making minimum wage, which is a huge percentage of workers. Look up the average pay raise that a company gives.

Yet a HIGE talking point for Trump is how great the stock market did while he was POTUS. So, do we consider it a metric for both Biden AND Trump, or do we simply ignore it?
As far as "getting rich" - I know you are a government employee and may be affected less by it, but almost every worker in the US is impacted in some way by the stock market. Retirement accounts. Insurance plans. Corporate profit sharing. Bonuses. Payroll. And so on.
If the markets weren't relevant, no one would care if they crashed.

The stock market went up with, and it will again. The difference is, inflation did not make a huge jump at the same time. Biden's inflation made a huge hump in 2021.

The problem is that there is nothing in the box or outside of the box. He expressed that he has a concept of a plan. That's not a plan. Are we supposed to make one for him? Because he's promising miracles again.
Those don't work.

Obama said "Industry in America is dead. I can't just wave a magic wand and it will be back." So according to Obama, Trump performed a miracle when he brought industry back.

Admit it, life was better under Trump. Interest rates were down, no wars were started, cost of living was down, the was a lot less stress. The only stress was the libs crying because they didn't win the office. Now they are crying again.

No, I didn't. I asked if you did such a thing along with increasing your driving by 58%, just so you could have a reason to complain about gas prices.
An alternate take on Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this" Doctor: "Then stop doing it, dummy"

I drive 1 mile, round-trip, to work. However, there are 3 drivers in my house, and I have to fill up all three tanks. If it were just me, I wouldn't complain so much.

It was a minor joke based on his incessant claims that I am lying about my job and my income.
He was offended by it, but whatever.

I understood it to be a joke.

 

[Old_Slapper]

But that means Trumps plan to reduce inflation will hurt the country and the economy.
That sounds like a bad plan.

How can lowing inflation hurt the economy and the country? It will make life easier for everyone. People will not have to rely on pay raises to survive. People won't be getting thrown out onto the streets because they can't afford rent or their house payment. Life was easy when Trump was in office. That's the fact. That's why so many people flipped from the democrat party and voted for Trump.

 

[Old_Slapper]

When Democrats outnumber Republicans by 9 million voters, a Republican win will always be a minority win. That's just statistics.

Where were those 9 million voters last week? They probably got tired of voting for a candidate that kept screwing things up. Trump won the election, rememeber?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Biden didn't sneak anybody across the border. But his (Harris's) policy of letting anybody who gets caught here illegally just claim asylum is insanity. Even if the administration thought that was good policy, why didn't they change course when it became obvious that Venezuelan gangs where using lax immigration policy as cover to sneak into the US?

The Biden admin set up a program to fly illegals into the country on airplanes, literally, and they did just that

They set up an app that was originally for tracking foreigners shipping stuff into the US, just an app used to track temporary foreigners doing business in the US, into an app that helped people illegally enter the country and had instructions and shit and help on how to invade us. It's the CBP One app. Literally just shipping them up here in these caravans ran by the UN

Where are the 100's of thousands of illegal foreigner children that have just disappeared from border in our (inside of US) custody? Is Biden letting P Diddy and Epstein pick these kids up in the biggest human trafficking event in world history?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

How can lowing inflation hurt the economy and the country? It will make life easier for everyone. People will not have to rely on pay raises to survive. People won't be getting thrown out onto the streets because they can't afford rent or their house payment. Life was easy when Trump was in office. That's the fact. That's why so many people flipped from the democrat party and voted for Trump.

This is one of the only elections where we can directly compare what the 2 administrations accomplished back to back. It's pretty clear what the American public thought of the jobs each administration did.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

My roommates wife (far left Dem) didn't know for sure who I voted for so she asked me. The next 4 hours were filled with hysterics.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That is pathetically sad on your part. According to you, he begins speaking by saying he would, in fact, make sure there is..................... apparently he has a brain fart then according to you, starts a new sentence... We immediately surge to the border. <--- period. Mind you, the government did not surge to the border, migrants did. Then you claim he started yet another sentence... All those people who are seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard.

However, that is not how he spoke. His words state they are going to make sure migrants surge the border. Why is this one true and your interpretation is wrong... because Trump did not want the migrants there and the left was going to do the opposite of what Trump wanted and they did.

That's a lot of words to avoid admitting the fact that your quote was a lie.

It doesn't match the closed-captions of the video YOU offered.
It doesn't match the transcript of the debate that is available on the ABC website.

You created your own quote of what was said, yet insist it is the correct one.
That's not how quotes work.

You were dishonest and are now trying to spin your way out out of it.

A President saying "We" is referring to migrants?
GMAFB