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[ThxOne Premium Member]

It's just so he can argue...

I agree. I just voiced my opinion and he just can't help himself.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I agree. I just voiced my opinion and he just can't help himself.

You complain that there is no conversation, but when I ask you to talk about this stuff and what it's all about, you complain that you don't want to converse about it.

Do you want conversation or do you just say that over and over to try to seem like you are being reasonable and a "thinker"?

You can't demand conversation then get upset with conversation. Those are mutually exclusive concepts.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You complain that there is no conversation, but when I ask you to talk about this stuff and what it's all about, you complain that you don't want to converse about it.

Do you want conversation or do you just say that over and over to try to seem like you are being reasonable and a "thinker"?

You can't demand conversation then get upset with conversation. Those are mutually exclusive concepts.

You don't have conversations Rob...you just argue and occasionally cry about spelling errors to change it up...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You complain that there is no conversation, but when I ask you to talk about this stuff and what it's all about, you complain that you don't want to converse about it.

Do you want conversation or do you just say that over and over to try to seem like you are being reasonable and a "thinker"?

You can't demand conversation then get upset with conversation. Those are mutually exclusive concepts.

Your conversations quickly change to demands and arguing. I am not interested in that kind of conversation. I am not going to be constantly questioned about my thoughts, observations or opinions by some random person on the internet who has some kind of grudge against everyone who has HUMAN FEELINGS.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Your conversations quickly change to demands and arguing. I am not interested in that kind of conversation. I am not going to be constantly questioned about my thoughts, observations or opinions by some random person on the internet who has some kind of grudge against everyone who has HUMAN FEELINGS.

Yes. We all have feelings, beliefs, personal opinions. But we're not discussing those here. Those can be discussed over in the "tell us your beliefs" thread.

Were discussing law, politics, economic facts and figures, history, things that Trump has done, things Biden has done.
All stuff that can be verified and proved objectively, not just claimed subjectively.

Over in that thread, I can say I believe Trump has ***** at least one woman.
In this thread I can say that Trump's ex accused him of raping her, as did a minor girl, and I can provide the evidence of the accusations.

See the difference?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yes. We all have feelings, beliefs, personal opinions. But we're not discussing those here. Those can be discussed over in the "tell us your beliefs" thread.

No, YOU are not discussing those here.

Were discussing law, politics, economic facts and figures, history, things that Trump has done, things Biden has done.
All stuff that can be verified and proved objectively, not just claimed subjectively.

You are trying to control the conversations by limiting the conversations to what YOU want to talk about.

Over in that thread, I can say I believe Trump has ***** at least one woman.
In this thread I can say that Trump's ex accused him of raping her, as did a minor girl, and I can provide the evidence of the accusations.

Yes I know what an ACCUSATION is. It DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING HAPPENED. You have no problem thinking and accusation is something that actually happened if it helps your narrative.

See the difference?

Sure do.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I see someone wants to "talk" about anything and everything instead of backing up a 31k comment

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I see someone wants to "talk" about anything and everything instead of backing up a 31k comment

I FEEL that my OPINION on that matter is that he will never back it up.

I wonder if Mr. Math actually knows the odds of all 31,000+ alleged lies being true. Or if he actually THINKS they are all true because that's what he read somewhere.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Yes. We all have feelings, beliefs, personal opinions. But we're not discussing those here. Those can be discussed over in the "tell us your beliefs" thread.

Were discussing law, politics, economic facts and figures, history, things that Trump has done, things Biden has done.
All stuff that can be verified and proved objectively, not just claimed subjectively.

Over in that thread, I can say I believe Trump has ***** at least one woman.
In this thread I can say that Trump's ex accused him of raping her, as did a minor girl, and I can provide the evidence of the accusations.

See the difference?

Anybody can accuse anybody of anything. I can show you video after video of Joe Biden sniffing children and groping women and children, I can show you Ashley Biden's diary and how Joe took showers with her. Where are you criticizing that? I'm not accusing Joe Biden of sniffing and groping women and children, because he straight up has done it over and over on camera, then hunter's laptops, the cocaine in the White House, I mean the picture is pretty clear. Why don't you criticize Joe Biden for sniffing children and being the father of a crackhead, where Joe called his crackhead son the smartest man he knew? Are we living in reality here or not?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Anybody can accuse anybody of anything. I can show you video after video of Joe Biden sniffing children and groping women and children, I can show you Ashley Biden's diary and how Joe took showers with her. Where are you criticizing that? I'm not accusing Joe Biden of sniffing and groping women and children, because he straight up has done it over and over on camera, then hunter's laptops, the cocaine in the White House, I mean the picture is pretty clear. Why don't you criticize Joe Biden for sniffing children and being the father of a crackhead, where Joe called his crackhead son the smartest man he knew? Are we living in reality here or not?

Party matters to Rob...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No, YOU are not discussing those here.

Precisely. I am NOT discussing feelings, beliefs, opinions, hopes, dreams here. I have avoided doing so from the beginning, and have stated as such a minimum of a dozen times. Maybe multiple dozens.

You are trying to control the conversations by limiting the conversations to what YOU want to talk about.

Well. it IS a "Trump being Trump" thread. Shoudl I not be talking about Trump being Trump?
Or, are you thinking it's a thread to talk about your beliefs, feelings, opinions, hopes, dreams?
How exactly to any of those things affect what Trump has done, and what we can prove he has done?

Yes I know what an ACCUSATION is. It DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING HAPPENED. You have no problem thinking and accusation is something that actually happened if it helps your narrative.

Seriously?! THAT is what you got from my analogy? Holy shi*t, I thought I had made it easy enough for you to understand. The big picture had NOTHING to do with whether Trump ***** or not. It had to do with not being able to prove what i believe belief, but being able to prove the accusations really occurred.
OK, FFS, I'll make it even simpler:
I would post my beliefs in the "Things I Believe" thread, not here.
I would post facts and provable evidence here, not in the "Things I Believe" thread.

Sure do.

I guess you didn't. See above.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I see someone wants to "talk" about anything and everything instead of backing up a 31k comment

If your goal is to look like an idiot, you are succeeding.
You can't even prove that ONE of the lies I posted is actually a truth. You actually admitted the "571 mile" one was a lie, which means you already can't prove that Trump is not a liar.

Do you want to prove 30,000 times that he IS a liar? Do the first 30 I have posted, then I will post another 30. And another 30.
Try to cross the starting line before you want a trophy for getting to the finish.

Anybody can accuse anybody of anything. I can show you video after video of Joe Biden sniffing children and groping women and children, I can show you Ashley Biden's diary and how Joe took showers with her. Where are you criticizing that? I'm not accusing Joe Biden of sniffing and groping women and children, because he straight up has done it over and over on camera, then hunter's laptops, the cocaine in the White House, I mean the picture is pretty clear. Why don't you criticize Joe Biden for sniffing children and being the father of a crackhead, where Joe called his crackhead son the smartest man he knew? Are we living in reality here or not?

Like Thxone, you completely missed the point I was making.

I'll help you out. The example was all about arguing beliefs vs. arguing facts
I believe Trump ***** at least one woman. My belief doesn't mean sh*t here if I have no proof. It belongs in the "Things I Believe Thread", not in an argument of facts.

I KNOW Trump has been accused of **** multiple times. I can provide proof of the accusations, so it is something I can state in THIS thread, in an argument of factual info.

See the difference?
It makes no sense to argue beliefs that cannot be proved. It's a fool's folly, and I don't understand why people insist on doing it.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You can't even prove that ONE of the lies I posted is actually a truth

So you need me to make the case that Trump lied 31k times? Why say it if you can't back it up?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I KNOW Trump has been accused of **** multiple times. I can provide proof of the accusations, so it is something I can state in THIS thread, in an argument of factual info.

Any one of can accuse of the same...then innerweb would have a source of reference that you were an accused ******...would that mean as much?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you need me to make the case that Trump lied 31k times? Why say it if you can't back it up?

No. You need to prove your BELIEF that Trump didn't lie and that the list of lies, and proofs that they are lies, is somehow faked or a sham.
It is not incumbent on anyone but YOU to prove your own beliefs.

Either prove he never said the words, prove that the words were said but are actually not lies, or prove the evidence that shows they are lies is actually false.

You've done none of these so far, which makes your statement of belief valueless.

Any one of can accuse of the same...then innerweb would have a source of reference that you were an accused ******...would that mean as much?

Christ on ice and Mary in the penalty box. Are you telling me you didn't get the big picture EITHER?

I'll capitalize so it's easier to see: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUMP **** ISSUE. IT HAS TO DO WITH ARGUING A BELIEF VERSUS MAKING A STATEMENT OF FACT.

ANYONE WHO ARGUES A BELIEF IS LIKELY AN IDIOT. THE ODDS ARE INCREASED EXPONENTIALLY IF THEY DO IT HERE.
ARGUE THAT BIGFOOT EXIST IN THE "THINGS I BELIEVE" THREAD. ARGUE FACTS, EVIDENCE, STATS, AND PROOFS, HERE.
FFS, even the moderator said to do so. What is so confusing about it?