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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Already did. And I used the definition YOU provided to do so.

If that's your idea of proof...You're even lazier in your arguments than I thought...and I already thought you were pretty fckn lazy

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Then why did you blame ME for your actions when you got banned? That sure sounds like your were saying I controlled you and caused you to do something. Change your mind on that accusation, did you?

I honestly don't know. You sure it wasn't sarcasm? Hell, you wouldn't know, you're too stupid to wipe your own ***.

"Us" describes me and anyone else who may be reading the thread or your specific post.
But your tangent shows us you are unable to prove any of those things and will just continue to avoid admitting you fVcked up.
As usual.

And you? How many times have YOU fucked up?

Go ahead, Vote for the piece of sh8t trump. You're on a fixed income and have no worries about the economy, so you'll be fine.
Us folks who work for a living prefer a good economy over a sh*tty one.

Fixed income? Me? Um, no... not even close, bud.

TRUMP 2024!! MAGA!!

 

[Old_Slapper]

Ever heard of the term "polysemous"? It means a word can have multiple definitions.
The result is that every definition does not apply at all times. But if you think it does, can you explain to us all how procreation MUST involve ****** activity, when there have been 8 million test tube babies since 1977.

Are you suggesting those 8 million people do not exist by procreation?
Answer the questions.
And while you're at it, tell me how both of these definitions can apply at the same time to a singular thing
bark- the characteristic short loud cry of a dog; the tough exterior covering of a woody root or stem



You said it was locked down by being locked down. Not much of an explanation of HOW.
I asked you the question in post 1,245, and in post 1,305 you said you answered it.
But you didn't have any posts between 1,245 and 1,305.
How exactly did you answer my question without posting anything?

Never said that, never would. Look at my post history and you'll see that i call out people who are full of sh*t, and I speak the truth with facts, proof, evidence.
As opposed to guys who claim they have been resurrected, that Trump is not a liar, that Trump won the election, that Biden broke the law by selling oil from the SPR, that bones do not have nerves in them, that the Republicans had nothing to do with Roe v Wade being overturned, that monoblock amps have multiple outputs, that Biden sets gas prices, that people didn't drive less during the pandemic lockdowns, that Trump oversaw the best US economy in the history of the world, that Trump only "allegedly" had classified documents at Mara Lago, that Trump won the election, that the insurrectionists on Jan 6th were "tourists" who were only "wearing hats and waving flags", that the events of Jan 6th didn't HAPPEN.

All of those things have been said by people here, and it's the tip of the iceberg.
How do YOU consider people who say stupid sh*t like that?

Nope. I've never seen a SOTU address.

Show me where I am incorrect.
If a pregnant woman wants an abortion, but the Republicans have made it so she cannot, would you agree they are forcing her to continue with a pregnancy by taking away her right to end it?
Answer with a yes or no, please.

OK. So a pro-lifer who smokes and gets lung cancer from smoking should just live with the consequences, and not be allowed surgery or medicine to deal with it. They played Russian Roulette and lost. Correct?
A kid who crashes his bike going over a jump and breaks his arm should be required to let it heal in situ with no setting of the bone, no cast, no painkillers. Live with the consequences. Correct?
A priest who diddles a kid and gets worked over or even shot by the irate father should just live (or die) with the injuries. Correct?
Or are those "living with the consequences" examples unfair because they don't gel with your rule?
Answer the questions, please.

I assume you mean it is very divisive.
So I'll ask this: Why do you think the federal government should decide what we get to do with our bodies?
I don't know you and I don't know your situation, but what if YOU got cancer? Would you be OK with the gov't telling you you may not have treatment for any number of reasons (age, cause of cancer, type of cancer, cost of treatment, skin color, ***, etc)?
Answer the question honestly, please.

By saying "Locking the doors," I'm referring to the laws and actions he was takin to help secure the border. One of the biggest laws was keeping them in Mexico. This law made it so the Mexican government would step in and take some ownership of the border. It started takin place in 2019. However, the government was not set up yet, so people took advantage of that while it was getting ramped up. Also, Trump was putting up the wall. It is proven that crossings slowed where the walls were put up. Again, the immigrants took advantage of the wall not being up. Once up, they knew it would be a lot harder to cross.

A while back, I asked you to tell me what 3 things Biden is doing wrong, as president, and I asked to tell me 3 three things that Trump did right while in office. You only went on about how terrible Trump is.

When responding to people on matters you don't believe in, you should start, and finish, your statement with "In my honest opinion" and/or "my belief is." Do I believe some of the things that were said? NOPE! I would avoid making a statement on it, or I would start off with My honest opinion, on that subject, is... however, I am not a professional on that subject, and/or, I have not received enough information on it.

Here's an example: Let's address the reincarnation topic. In my honest opinion, I don't believe in reincarnation. however, I will not question your belief because I do not have any experience in this matter.

Consequences: I believe you missed my point. The point is, an embryo is a human life form. There is no arguing against that. It is another stage of a human's life. It is a living organism. Dying of cancer, breaking an arm, an extremely perverted and sick priest deserving to die, etc... are different subjects. I am talking about a woman having ***, getting pregnant, then terminating another lifeform because she doesn't want to deal with it. Many people believe a human life is the most precious thing there is. It is a baby, it is a son or daughter, it is you and I. Some people have become desensitized and believe only their life is the most precious.

The most disgusting part that proves my point, about people only caring about themselves, is the fact that non of these pro-abortion people will give a pregnancy time when abortion should no longer be allowed.

However, there are times when an abortion is necessary. It's just not necessary as a form of birth control.

If a republican and many democrats make it so a woman cannot get an abortion can be forcing the woman to procreate. However, it depends on how you look at the definition. Some definitions will say the procreation start is the start of creating life. Other will say procreation is actually giving birth. The term "pro" means to bring into existence. Well, an embryo is an existing human. We all know what creation means.

The Federal government is here to protect all citizens of the country they watch over. There are moral standards that must be upheld. That being said, as I explained before, and embryo is a living human lifeform. Also, there is way too much controversy over it. It is proven that majority of the Americans don't believe in abortion being used as a form of birth control. Due to people living in certain states due to the lifestyle that states provides, it is only ethical and fair to allow the states to decide on abortion laws.

also, I don't believe that at state should have a law against what their citizens do outside that state.

As for abortion being a human right, that is something that the democrats made up. Abortion is not a right, and never was. It was a privilege. It cracks me up when people claim abortion as being a God given right. Do they honestly believe God is up there saying "Sure, you absolutely can kill this living being for your own selfish reason."

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

If that's your idea of proof...You're even lazier in your arguments than I thought...and I already thought you were pretty fckn lazy

So the definition YOU provided to support your argument is not correct and you only realized that after you tried to use it?
OK. Tell us the CORRECT definition of "procreation" then. We should be on the same page when using such words to decide whether a woman has the right to decide what happens to her own body.
I'll wait for your "correct" definition.
What is "Procreation", please?

I honestly don't know. You sure it wasn't sarcasm? Hell, you wouldn't know, you're too stupid to wipe your own ***.

No, you used the "sarcasm" excuse before, after tens of posts arguing a position. Kind of like Trump when he was being "sarcastic" about injecting disinfectants or putting UV light inside the body to stop COVID.

And you? How many times have YOU fucked up?

None that you have been able to show so far.
But that doesn't speak to you proving any of your claims that I referenced earlier.
Can you prove them, or not?

Fixed income? Me? Um, no... not even close, bud.
TRUMP 2024!! MAGA!!

Oh. Did you already burn through your "injury" settlement?
Did that "injury" happen at Camp Ripley? Is that why you declared it biologically "safe" and it was later found to loaded with PFAs? Just wondering.
I'll bet you still wave your Trump 2020 flag proudly, not understanding that he was TROUNCED in the election.
But it's OK. We know you like criminals, and think it's unfair when they get busted.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Uh Oh... Rob is triggered again!

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Did that "injury" happen at Camp Ripley? Is that why you declared it biologically "safe" and it was later found to loaded with PFAs? Just wondering.

See, this is what the left does. They will make statements out of pure IGNORANCE and people will follow them blindly.

I hope you choke on the better America that is coming.

 

[Old_Slapper]

This is so terrifyingly reminiscent of how evil and corrupted govs or regimes target their civilian political opposition. Big gov is illegally spying on you and punishing people for completely legal activities so that the big gov can maintain unwarranted power to enforce a sinister agenda:

Yea, this is old news.
Here are things that will get you on the watch list.

• Purchase ammo. Even if you don't own a gun.
• Purchase a gun.
• Shop at certain outdoor life retailers. Not just Bass Pro.
• Go to certain churches.
• Multiple posts, or even text, something that goes against the democrats mission. Yes, this thread is being recorded and we are all have been noted.
• Go against immigration.
• Purchase MAGA gear.
• Use anything, besides a AM/FM radio, to listen to conservative talk shows.
• Donate to the NRA or a republican party.
• The list goes on and on.

Working for the gov'ment, I have to be careful on what I say. Already, there is a lot of fear, amongst my coworkers, of people losing their jobs because of their personal opinion. We have already seen it. A couple people signed the petition to recall Newsom. Shortly after, they were pulled aside at the same time, on some crap they did 15 years ago. One was due to tax evasion. Apparently, when she was 19, she didn't report a couple hundred dollars to the IRS. She now owes like $10k. I don't know what the guy did, but it wasn't a enough to arrest him for. They both ended up losing their jobs. They were the only ones to sign the petition, and they were pulled aside on the same day, and at the same time. Yes, the FBI was making a statement.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

By saying "Locking the doors," I'm referring to the laws and actions he was takin to help secure the border. One of the biggest laws was keeping them in Mexico. This law made it so the Mexican government would step in and take some ownership of the border. It started takin place in 2019. However, the government was not set up yet, so people took advantage of that while it was getting ramped up. Also, Trump was putting up the wall. It is proven that crossings slowed where the walls were put up. Again, the immigrants took advantage of the wall not being up. Once up, they knew it would be a lot harder to cross.

"One of the biggest laws was keeping them in Mexico"? There were no laws prior that said illegal border crossings were illegal? What government was "not set up yet"? The Mexican gov't?
I thought we had one in place for a few hundred years.

A while back, I asked you to tell me what 3 things Biden is doing wrong, as president, and I asked to tell me 3 three things that Trump did right while in office. You only went on about how terrible Trump is.
When responding to people on matters you don't believe in, you should start, and finish, your statement with "In my honest opinion" and/or "my belief is." Do I believe some of the things that were said? NOPE! I would avoid making a statement on it, or I would start off with My honest opinion, on that subject, is... however, I am not a professional on that subject, and/or, I have not received enough information on it.

Opinions and beliefs are for whether you like strawberries more than apples, or blondes more than redheads, or choose to believe in Jesus as the savior, or Allah or Buddah as your god.
Law, economic figures, price data, historical info, science, etc, are not open to subjective evaluation.
I can be like others here and believe all I want that Trump oversaw the greatest economy in the history of the world, but that belief don't mean sh*t when it comes to the numbers.
I can believe all I want that he didn't have classified docs at Mara Lago, but that don't mean sh*t when it comes to the fact that he AND his attorneys confirmed he had them.
Thx can believe all he wants that his degree in biology makes him just as much an expert as any immunologist or virologist out there, but his belief don't mean sh*t when it comes to the fact that he isn't.

Here's an example: Let's address the reincarnation topic. In my honest opinion, I don't believe in reincarnation. however, I will not question your belief because I do not have any experience in this matter.

Yep. No proof so it cannot be argued. However, Buck claims he was resurrected from the dead.
There is no scientific evidence it has ever happened in RECORDED history. yet, he claims he rose from the dead.
Until it can be proved, a claim like that can be considered BS>

Consequences: I believe you missed my point. The point is, an embryo is a human life form. There is no arguing against that. It is another stage of a human's life. It is a living organism. Dying of cancer, breaking an arm, an extremely perverted and sick priest deserving to die, etc... are different subjects. I am talking about a woman having ***, getting pregnant, then terminating another lifeform because she doesn't want to deal with it. Many people believe a human life is the most precious thing there is. It is a baby, it is a son or daughter, it is you and I. Some people have become desensitized and believe only their life is the most precious.

Yes. it is a human life form, but one that is solely dependent on the host that it lives in and that is procreating it. It is a consequence of an action, but it is not independent in any way. Why is it the second that zygote happens, we decide a woman has no right to decide that she does not want her body to host the parasitic organism?

I fully understand it will eventually be human life, but that is not something that should be used in determining whether the gov't should decide what we do with our own bodies. The decision should lie with whether we have privacy and autonomy.
people were outraged when it was said that China was forcing women to abort a ***** if it was female. How DARE they tell a woman what to do with her body?!?!?!
Yet we have no problem int he US telling a woman what to do with her body.
And that creates a damn slippery slope. What happens when the religious right decides people should not be allowed to use contraception or birth control because it makes god mad?

Crazy idea? No. A bill was introduced to ensure such things continued to be available. 195 Republicans in the House voted AGAINST it.

The most disgusting part that proves my point, about people only caring about themselves, is the fact that non of these pro-abortion people will give a pregnancy time when abortion should no longer be allowed.

A reasonable scientific approach would be if the baby can live without major life support, it is too late to abort.

However, there are times when an abortion is necessary. It's just not necessary as a form of birth control.

The "brith control" fallacy comes up a lot. Turns out it's a false argument, and the stats show why: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://prochoice.org/wp-content/uploads/women_who_have_abortions.pdf

If a republican and many democrats make it so a woman cannot get an abortion can be forcing the woman to procreate. However, it depends on how you look at the definition. Some definitions will say the procreation start is the start of creating life. Other will say procreation is actually giving birth. The term "pro" means to bring into existence. Well, an embryo is an existing human. We all know what creation means.

The argument with Spokey was using the definition that he provided for procreation. The word means many things, but does not have to be used in a way that is inclusive of all those things. Insisting that the use of it encompass ALL of them is a fallacious argument.,
Just like saying a dog bark must be the skin of a tree coming out of its mouth.
And in matters of great import, like our rights, words and their proper usage is critical.

The Federal government is here to protect all citizens of the country they watch over. There are moral standards that must be upheld. That being said, as I explained before, and embryo is a living human lifeform. Also, there is way too much controversy over it. It is proven that majority of the Americans don't believe in abortion being used as a form of birth control. Due to people living in certain states due to the lifestyle that states provides, it is only ethical and fair to allow the states to decide on abortion laws.

The US government has no place in matters of morality for the country. Morality can be universal, but can also be religion-based. Imagine the government deciding that one religion's moral code is superior to another, and those codes contradict each other.
Outlaw burkas in the US, even though it is a religious requirement to be worn. Tell Christians they are not allowed to wear a crucifix in Federal buildings. Tell Islamic people(?) they cannot face the east and pray at the proper time. Tell a married guy it is illegal to cheat on his wife, or vide versa.
No. Morality is not the job of our government to control for us.

also, I don't believe that at state should have a law against what their citizens do outside that state.

Agreed. Imagine getting busted in (whatever state it's still illegal) because you smoked pot in Vegas.
Utterly ridiculous.
But the Republicans would be happy for a woman to be arrested and convicted for going tout of state for an abortion.

As for abortion being a human right, that is something that the democrats made up. Abortion is not a right, and never was. It was a privilege. It cracks me up when people claim abortion as being a God given right. Do they honestly believe God is up there saying "Sure, you absolutely can kill this living being for your own selfish reason."

"God" should NEVER be a part of ANY discussion regarding laws, the constitution, human rights, science, etc.
But I find it interesting that you think women should not have the right to choose what happens to their own bodies. Does this strictly lie with the carrying of a *****, or does it extend to other choices? Does it extend to men doing what they choose?
Should a Catholic woman be allowed to have a hysterectomy in order to prevent the possibility of childbirth?
Should a Catholic man be allowed to have a vasectomy for the same reason?
How about birth control pills or implants?
Those are all against the rules of "God". Should the gov't be allowed to decide/tell a person yes or no to their use?

I appreciate you discussing this reasonably, unlike others here who simply demand their beliefs be accepted as facts or choose to fight back against facts with lame attempts at insults. Or maybe just sidestepping answering any simple question that will immediately show they are wrong.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Yea, this is old news.
Here are things that will get you on the watch list.

• Purchase ammo. Even if you don't own a gun.
• Purchase a gun.
• Shop at certain outdoor life retailers. Not just Bass Pro.
• Go to certain churches.
• Multiple posts, or even text, something that goes against the democrats mission. Yes, this thread is being recorded and we are all have been noted.
• Go against immigration.
• Purchase MAGA gear.
• Use anything, besides a AM/FM radio, to listen to conservative talk shows.
• Donate to the NRA or a republican party.
• The list goes on and on.

Working for the gov'ment, I have to be careful on what I say. Already, there is a lot of fear, amongst my coworkers, of people losing their jobs because of their personal opinion. We have already seen it. A couple people signed the petition to recall Newsom. Shortly after, they were pulled aside at the same time, on some crap they did 15 years ago. One was due to tax evasion. Apparently, when she was 19, she didn't report a couple hundred dollars to the IRS. She now owes like $10k. I don't know what the guy did, but it wasn't an enough to arrest him for. They both ended up losing their jobs. They were the only ones to sign the petition, and they were pulled aside on the same day, and at the same time. Yes, the FBI was making a statement.

It's so bad. It's the same type of mind state with covid and all that too, vaccines and masks and all of that. People need to wake up how we are already like 1930's Germany. It's already so much worse than people think. The federal gov and federal agencies and now almost certainly the upper end of the military has gone against the people now too. Everyone loves big dick in their mouth. If people don't stand up we lose it all. People will die, that's where this is all going. A lot of people will die, but it's green so it's ok.

 

[Old_Slapper]

Here is a video that will explain our inflation right now. This guys in nonpartisan. He just explains what's currently going on in with the economy and taxes.

At about 7:30 is when he gets into more details about inflation.

"One of the biggest laws was keeping them in Mexico"? There were no laws prior that said illegal border crossings were illegal? What government was "not set up yet"? The Mexican gov't?
I thought we had one in place for a few hundred years.

Opinions and beliefs are for whether you like strawberries more than apples, or blondes more than redheads, or choose to believe in Jesus as the savior, or Allah or Buddah as your god.
Law, economic figures, price data, historical info, science, etc, are not open to subjective evaluation.
I can be like others here and believe all I want that Trump oversaw the greatest economy in the history of the world, but that belief don't mean sh*t when it comes to the numbers.
I can believe all I want that he didn't have classified docs at Mara Lago, but that don't mean sh*t when it comes to the fact that he AND his attorneys confirmed he had them.
Thx can believe all he wants that his degree in biology makes him just as much an expert as any immunologist or virologist out there, but his belief don't mean sh*t when it comes to the fact that he isn't.

Yep. No proof so it cannot be argued. However, Buck claims he was resurrected from the dead.
There is no scientific evidence it has ever happened in RECORDED history. yet, he claims he rose from the dead.
Until it can be proved, a claim like that can be considered BS>

Yes. it is a human life form, but one that is solely dependent on the host that it lives in and that is procreating it. It is a consequence of an action, but it is not independent in any way. Why is it the second that zygote happens, we decide a woman has no right to decide that she does not want her body to host the parasitic organism?

I fully understand it will eventually be human life, but that is not something that should be used in determining whether the gov't should decide what we do with our own bodies. The decision should lie with whether we have privacy and autonomy.
people were outraged when it was said that China was forcing women to abort a ***** if it was female. How DARE they tell a woman what to do with her body?!?!?!
Yet we have no problem int he US telling a woman what to do with her body.
And that creates a damn slippery slope. What happens when the religious right decides people should not be allowed to use contraception or birth control because it makes god mad?

Crazy idea? No. A bill was introduced to ensure such things continued to be available. 195 Republicans in the House voted AGAINST it.


A reasonable scientific approach would be if the baby can live without major life support, it is too late to abort.

The "brith control" fallacy comes up a lot. Turns out it's a false argument, and the stats show why: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://prochoice.org/wp-content/uploads/women_who_have_abortions.pdf

The argument with Spokey was using the definition that he provided for procreation. The word means many things, but does not have to be used in a way that is inclusive of all those things. Insisting that the use of it encompass ALL of them is a fallacious argument.,
Just like saying a dog bark must be the skin of a tree coming out of its mouth.
And in matters of great import, like our rights, words and their proper usage is critical.

The US government has no place in matters of morality for the country. Morality can be universal, but can also be religion-based. Imagine the government deciding that one religion's moral code is superior to another, and those codes contradict each other.
Outlaw burkas in the US, even though it is a religious requirement to be worn. Tell Christians they are not allowed to wear a crucifix in Federal buildings. Tell Islamic people(?) they cannot face the east and pray at the proper time. Tell a married guy it is illegal to cheat on his wife, or vide versa.
No. Morality is not the job of our government to control for us.

Agreed. Imagine getting busted in (whatever state it's still illegal) because you smoked pot in Vegas.
Utterly ridiculous.
But the Republicans would be happy for a woman to be arrested and convicted for going tout of state for an abortion.

"God" should NEVER be a part of ANY discussion regarding laws, the constitution, human rights, science, etc.
But I find it interesting that you think women should not have the right to choose what happens to their own bodies. Does this strictly lie with the carrying of a *****, or does it extend to other choices? Does it extend to men doing what they choose?
Should a Catholic woman be allowed to have a hysterectomy in order to prevent the possibility of childbirth?
Should a Catholic man be allowed to have a vasectomy for the same reason?
How about birth control pills or implants?
Those are all against the rules of "God". Should the gov't be allowed to decide/tell a person yes or no to their use?

I appreciate you discussing this reasonably, unlike others here who simply demand their beliefs be accepted as facts or choose to fight back against facts with lame attempts at insults. Or maybe just sidestepping answering any simple question that will immediately show they are wrong.

The law was the Remain in Mexico law. Before, immigrants were held at the border while they wait for a court date to claim they are here to seek asylum. Trump made the Remain In Mexico law to keep the immigrants in Mexico until their court date.

There is no scientific proof that resurrection is real or not. There is evidence to support both sides. At the end of the day, the only person who knows, for a 100% fact, is the person it happened to. Unfortunately, there is no solid way for them to prove their statement to be true.

This argument has been brought up before. An embryo is dependent form, and so is and infant. There is no way an infant will survive without a "host."

Did you know you can be arrested for going out and destroying fertilized chicken eggs where the chick is almost developed in the egg? You will be arrested for animal cruelty. Why is it okay to kill an human embryo, but not a chicken embryo?

I believe a woman, or any person, has the right to do what they want with their body. However, the embryo, or even a developed ***** is not entirely her body. It is the body of another living being. What's to stop people from saying their newborn is a major stress on my mind and body. I believe I have a right to terminate it. It can't live on it's own. The authorities and media are going to stress me out more if I give it up for adoption. I'll do it without anyone knowing. 20 years ago, 90% of the people thought abortions were cruel and disgusting. Now it's celebrated as a form of birth control. Scientifically speaking, it is a human baby.

The biggest issue with abortion, isn't abortion. It's the term at which abortion is still legal. Many democrats believe abortion should be legal up to the point of cutting the umbilical cord. Yes, that is a big thing.

Do some research on what republicans actually believe. We believe that abortion is here to stay. We just want there to be limits and boundaries. No lawmaker will come out and give boundaries or limits. They won't even condone abortion being legal to the point of cutting the umbilical cord.

I didn't say the government had to force morals onto us. I was saying they have to have morals when governing us.

As for God being a part of govern, I do believe a politician should govern under the fear of a higher power. Therefore, their decisions will be more for the good of the people and not for their own personal gain. Otherwise, what's to keep them from going off the rails.

In the US, we have a freedom of religion. This freedom also states that the government cannot intervene with religions, unless it for safety issues. In most religions, abortions are not allowed and some don't allow birth control.

This brings me to the republicans voting against birth control. It wasn't birth control that they were voting against. They were voting against the taxpayers having to pay for the birth control. This low infringes upon the religious groups that don't allow birth control and it infringes upon us who don't believe we should be FORCED to pay for people who want to have ***.

 

[Old_Slapper]

When I started exposing how the politicians were trying to hide COVID centers, once biden took office, I was pulled into the mayors office and asked to standdown and leave it alone. The mayor made even started with "I'm being forced to demand this of you, or things can get really bad for the both of us."

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

When I started exposing how the politicians were trying to hide COVID centers, once biden took office, I was pulled into the mayors office and asked to standdown and leave it alone. The mayor made even started with "I'm being forced to demand this of you, or things can get really bad for the both of us."

So what happens when they start locking political dissidents up? I mean they have with Jan 6th. **** the FBI and CIA for Jan 6th. At what punishment do people stop obeying? Because if you let them do this, then they will do the next step, and the next step, and it's going to be people dying in mass in the end. At what point does it become too far, where what you're trying to save by obeying becomes worth losing due to the heinous activity of the gov? Some people, like the average Germans who ran the holocaust camps never say no, this is too far. There's a ton of people like that in this country too who will help you die, because they are monsters or cowards.

 

[soundstreamluvr]

I see you are taking this way to seriously and getting way too heated.

If you wish to say Trump is a con man, then you have to say the same for Biden. He is stated as being the "Big Guy" in Hunter's emails.

When Clinton lost, she called out for a recount and asked people to find more votes. The same thing Trump did. She didn't concede right away. Did ridicule her for those actions?

You tell me not to compare others, but you have to compare options. Kinda like picking out audio equipment. You weigh the pros and cons. You say Trump is bad. I ask how is the other opponent better?


I will ask three things,
1. Research the judges that he has had in all cases and tell me who put them in office. You stated that not all of them were appointed by a Republican, but yet he was still found innocent.
2. You talk about the judicial system being corrupt, but yet you state he is guilty until proven innocent.
3. What did he do that was so bad?


Isn't this what Trump was saying about the Constitution? I'm sure you will find a way to defend this video.



I am not a republican and I am not a democrat. I would vote for a democrat and I have. Have you vote for a republican, or are you a party voter?

Woah,Hillary didnt tell people to rush the capitol and take back what he lost,Trump did so you cant really compare the two,but nice try though

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

Woah,Hillary didnt tell people to rush the capitol and take back what he lost,Trump did so you cant really compare the two,but nice try though

Could you please show us a transcript of Trump saying these exact words or better yet the entire speech that was given? I encourage you to highlight the parts about any violence, let us know what you find.... ......Nice try though