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It's not the same type of damage, exactly. There is both long COVID and long vax. It's dumb to argue about it though, because you'll never admit these are those most dangerous "vaccines" in history of vaccines, and you have no idea if covid caused myo or them taking the vaccine or something else, a lot of it is circumstantial and not isolated in testing for sure. I know there's long covid, but don't pretend the vaccine hasn't caused a massive amount of health problems. I can't take you seriously if you don't, because you're ignoring what all the available facts say.

And that's the whole point of doing this god damn experiment is that nobody knows what's the vaccine or not as far as side effects because there's not really any trials to source from, so it's a big shit show, bunch of lies and deception. Can't convince me the most deadly vaccine in history based on an experimental technology isn't causing massive problems made by some of the most corrupt corporations on the planet, like pfizer. Never gonna buy that narrative that these mRNA shots aren't super dangerous and they on record have horrible side effects and are extremely dangerous compared to every other vaccine we know.
It's odd that the antivax crowd knows how the vax does different damage is somehow different when cardiovascular docs at research hospitals don't know that.

Reality is infection and vaxes both cause myocarditis and nearly every body on the planet either got covid or got the vax or got both. Adverse effects were higher with non-mRNA vaccines (ie J&J). I'm all for moving away from mRNA vaccines, but let's be honest about the data, which shows the mRNA vaxes are both more effective & less dangerous.
 
It's odd that the antivax crowd knows how the vax does different damage is somehow different when cardiovascular docs at research hospitals don't know that.

Reality is infection and vaxes both cause myocarditis and nearly every body on the planet either got covid or got the vax or got both. Adverse effects were higher with non-mRNA vaccines (ie J&J). I'm all for moving away from mRNA vaccines, but let's be honest about the data, which shows the mRNA vaxes are both more effective & less dangerous.
None of them are effective or safe, but you don't understand the mRNA tech and the research from everywhere says myo is different between vaccines and covid. We're talking about data from all over the world and people who have analyzed that. mRNA vaccines are still given, they are my focus and they want to do transhumansim with mRNA and crispr. We'll just have to agree to disagree on whatever.
 
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None of them are effective or safe, but you don't understand the mRNA tech and the research from everywhere says myo is different between vaccines and covid. We're talking about data from all over the world and people who have analyzed that. mRNA vaccines are still given, they are my focus and they want to do transhumansim with mRNA and crispr. We'll just have to agree to disagree on whatever.
What I do understand is I work with numerous technicians, doctors and nurses at research hospital and they're unaware of any differences. They all seem to think there is still a ton of research to be done. Clearly the number of people that suffered myocarditis at or immediately after the onset of Covid blows away the number who suffered myocarditis at or immediately after the jab. It's not even comparable - it's ~100:1.

It's not that "they" want to do "transhuman." "We" want crispr & mRNA. Looks like crispr can fix sickle cell and I'm sure a lot of people will want that. Crispr will probably be the ultimate solution to cancer. They're looking at being able to make modifications on person by person basis. You may think that's evil, etc, but people are gonna want this stuff. If they had a jab that would fix the damage I suffered from brachial plexitis or a shot that would restore my ever fading reflexes, I'd sign up in a second.
 
What I do understand is I work with numerous technicians, doctors and nurses at research hospital and they're unaware of any differences. They all seem to think there is still a ton of research to be done. Clearly the number of people that suffered myocarditis at or immediately after the onset of Covid blows away the number who suffered myocarditis at or immediately after the jab. It's not even comparable - it's ~100:1.

It's not that "they" want to do "transhuman." "We" want crispr & mRNA. Looks like crispr can fix sickle cell and I'm sure a lot of people will want that. Crispr will probably be the ultimate solution to cancer. They're looking at being able to make modifications on person by person basis. You may think that's evil, etc, but people are gonna want this stuff. If they had a jab that would fix the damage I suffered from brachial plexitis or a shot that would restore my ever fading reflexes, I'd sign up in a second.
Nah, you don't know that because of the way the cdc considered people vaccinated. You're just far behind in the way the statistics were counted in the first place with the cdc's 2 week period after receiving the vaccine, when a study in Japan iirc showed most people died within 10 days from vaccine side effects, so they wouldn't have been considered vaccinated by the cdc even though they were and died from it or got myo or whatever. Pure manipulation of data. Don't trust your statistics. We are at war, and there's a lot of lies going around.

People want a lot of stuff they don't even begin to understand, nor do they remotely understand the consequences and the direction that mankind manipulating human dna is going to go. That can end this entire human project, as you'd no longer be human.

"A Rasmussen poll out on the day of the hearing reported 53% of Americans think severe side effects from the vaccines are leading to large numbers of unexplained deaths."

 
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The same people who run the data with the fda and cdc cover for big pharma then they go work for big pharma after their gov job. It's a giant con game, it's ridiculous people trust big pharma and any gov medical institution. These corrupt gov workers literally let big pharma do whatever despite how illegal and evil it is, because then they get hired into big salary jobs by said companies once they leave the gov. It's f*cking ridiculous.
 
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Nah, you don't know that because of the way the cdc considered people vaccinated. You're just far behind in the way the statistics were counted in the first place with the cdc's 2 week period after receiving the vaccine, when a study in Japan iirc showed most people died within 10 days from vaccine side effects, so they wouldn't have been considered vaccinated by the cdc even though they're were and died from it. Don't trust your statistics. We are at war, and there's a lot of lies going around.

People want a lot of stuff they don't even begin to understand, nor do they remotely understand the consequences and the direction that mankind manipulating human dna is going to go. That can end this entire human project, as you'd no longer be human.

"A Rasmussen poll out on the day of the hearing reported 53% of Americans think severe side effects from the vaccines are leading to large numbers of unexplained deaths."

I wasn't referring to CDC stats. I'm talking directly to front line workers: radiologists, cardio docs and nurses, ultrasound techs, CT techs, MRI techs. They know if the charts indicate if the issue was triggered by Covid or the jab. Additionally, we can pretend like CDC, NIH, etc is ignoring adverse reactions to the vax, but they aren't. J&J got pulled after a couple people died from their jab; CDC didn't say "didn't occur after 2 weeks, doesn't count." We've been tracking myocarditis and aware of who it hits and even that it's usually after the second jab.
 
The same people who run the data with the fda and cdc cover for big pharma then they go work for big pharma after their gov job. It's a giant con game, it's ridiculous people trust big pharma and any gov medical institution. These corrupt gov workers literally let big pharma do whatever despite how illegal and evil it is, because then they get hired into big salary jobs by said companies once they leave the gov. It's f*cking ridiculous.
Is it a perfect system - no. Should the "bridge" between the regulators and the regulated be blown up - for sure. But that doesn't make big pharma evil, it doesn't mean there's a cover up and a conspiracy. As has been pointed out again and again, "they" didn't get millions of healthcare professionals to participate in a global conspiracy to do whatever it is "they" are conspiring to do. I'm talk with front line workers. I doubt any of the Ultrasound, CT, MRI techs that I interact with are running cover for Pfizer. I'll talk to a dozen or so docs this afternoon, would you like me to ask them what they'd indicate on a chart if somebody experienced myocarditis or some other adverse reaction 3 days after their first jab?
 
The whole medical system is just about run by the gov! I don't trust any of it, and I'm a long term patient! Most doctors are parrots and don't understand anything outside of their training, and that's real life experience from me. I've studied the statistics world wide. These "vaccines" are the deadliest in all of history and never should've been forced on anyone, and they're deadly according to the metrics of the people you mentioned, yet you say things like VAERS isn't relevant. There's a direct and strong correlation between the release of the vaccines and excess deaths, period. You'd understand more if you understood were already in WW3. Most people are mindless followers, Jim. They do what they're told and think like they're told, and the gov basically runs healthcare.
 
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I wasn't referring to CDC stats. I'm talking directly to front line workers: radiologists, cardio docs and nurses, ultrasound techs, CT techs, MRI techs. They know if the charts indicate if the issue was triggered by Covid or the jab. Additionally, we can pretend like CDC, NIH, etc is ignoring adverse reactions to the vax, but they aren't. J&J got pulled after a couple people died from their jab; CDC didn't say "didn't occur after 2 weeks, doesn't count." We've been tracking myocarditis and aware of who it hits and even that it's usually after the second jab.
Yes they did. You weren't considered fully vaccinated until 2 weeks after vaccinated. This is stupid and lame and you should've known this years ago. So if you died or had a side effect within 2 weeks of vaccination, which is when many people died according to some studies, they blamed it on covid instead of the vaccine. So far behind dude. The whole world has been completely buttf*cked by the world wide elite, now we're in a world war because all the idiots followed the gov and locked down the world and destroyed the world economy, as it was planned by the controllers for the sheep.
 
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This will never be abused...

"In an effort to encourage the discovery of more treatment and diagnostic options in the medical field, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has finalized a rule allowing certain clinical trials to operate without obtaining informed consent from participants."

 
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"He basically said that as soon as the vaccines rolled out, the cause of death on the death certificates changed: “blood and circulatory deaths all of a sudden started going up. They didn’t go up when COVID was around in 2020. They all of a sudden started going up in 2021.”"

 
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"Chinese scientists 'create' a mutant coronavirus strain that attacks the BRAIN and has a 100% kill rate in mice - as they admit there's a 'risk it spills over to humans'"

 
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