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[RobGMN Premium Member]

It was well under 1%...kinda why I said "less than 1%"...

The CURRENT number is over 9/10 of a percent.
And that number will continue to shrink as people continue to get it but become less likely to die due to vaccination, weakened strains, etc.

What you totally discount (for obvious reasons) is the number of deaths versus the number of people infected early on.
Were the disease as innocuous as you'd like to portray, we wouldn't have had hospitals overflowing, morgues overflowing, mass graves being dug, people panicking as loved ones were suddenly dying.

But no. Early in the game, the CFR and IFR were much higher. And not just in underdeveloped countries. In the UK, it was over 20%.
I'll ask you this: If you knew your chance of death was 1:5 from catching a "cold" (as dumb people often describe it), would you consider that cold a non-issue and just catch it or not, and not care about sharing if you DID catch it?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I didn't discount anything...I was talking in the U.S...but you went worldwide to prove me wrong

You're an idiot

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I didn't discount anything...I was talking in the U.S...but you went worldwide to prove me wrong

You're an idiot

I proved you wrong for both the US stats AND the worldwide stats.

So, the US population is all that matters when discussing deaths from COVID? Why do you think non-US citizens are unworthy of the concern of death?
Regardless, the chart shows the US rates. In the early stages, you think it was far less than 1%?
You might want to learn how to read a graph.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

It's actually both. Simple logic. Stopping or slowing transmission means stopping or slowing the spread.
Are you confusing "slowing transmission" with the idea that the mask makes the COVID move slower through the air?

Mask do not stop the spread of COVID you idiot.

No. You responded to the article that someone posted. You commented on the article (which referenced more than 99% of people being vaccinated). You asked a rhetorical ((and uninformed) question about how you vaccinate part of a PERSON, when the article mentioned a POPULATION. Then you made a weird comment about asking Democrats where the money went. Your answer was "crickets".
DID you think the article was describing a PERSON being more than 99% vaccinated?

Funny how you think you know more about what and why I post than I do.

You are, but you could change that. Try posting something factual instead of some useless crap you made up in your head, or repeating some inaccurate crap simply because it supports your incorrect beliefs.

Useless troll

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I didn't discount anything...I was talking in the U.S...but you went worldwide to prove me wrong

You're an idiot

Notice how he always leaves out natural immunity.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Mask do not stop the spread of COVID you idiot.

Statistics and science say otherwise.
I'll take those over "because Thoxone said so" every day of the week.

Funny how you think you know more about what and why I post than I do.

It is. Maybe I just have a better memory.
Do you think i am wrong in my references? Go look up the post.

Useless troll

Trolling:

Mask do not stop the spread of COVID you idiot.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Notice how he always leaves out natural immunity.

I just assume everything he says anymore is made up...he's got a track record of that these days

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Here is the info you need. I wouldn't ever expect you to believe anything I say or quote, so you can go direct to the sources from this link.

A history of the medical mask and the rise of throwaway culture - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Feel free to share your studies that prove masks do not work. Please don't waste our time with YouTube videos of a guy blowing vape through a mask. There is nothing scientific whatsoever about that garbage.

The people who test masks for how well they work do tests very similar to blowing vape through a mask. They air-blast particles out of a dummy head’s nose and mouth to see how many of whatever particles they’re using make it through, just fyi. I’ve seen pre-covid studies where they used that method to study if they could stop the spread of flu with masks, where they concluded they couldn’t.

Masks didn’t work for Spanish Flu in 1918.

Once again, people fail to understand the nature of an aerosolized bioweapon virus. Aerosolized viruses can’t be stopped by most masks that people wear, therefore making mask wearing very ineffective. Covid can also get in your eyes via air transmission. Cloth masks work, say when surgeons are performing open-wound surgery, where sneeze or cough particles will be caught by the mask.

Cloth masks don’t work with an aerosolized virus, because the virus floats in the air as a very small particle and doesn’t need moisture to travel. So, any mask that doesn’t have smaller-than-the-virus gaps in between the material threads in the structure of the mask won’t stop the virus. Also, and more importantly, most masks don’t fully cover your mouth and nose, where non-filtered air could enter around the sides and top/bottom gaps between the masks and people’s faces. That means if two people wearing cloth masks are right next to each other, they can both catch and spread the virus to each other by the air that escapes around the mask, because the virus is an aerosol.

Imagine an aerosolized covid virus cloud like a yellow colored nerve gas cloud, like it’s something similar to toxic gases used in WW1 trench warfare, or you could imagine it as hair spray or something. Sars-cov-2 floats in the air as a gas does, so, any direct, unfiltered pathway to your nose or mouth means the virus can be directly breathed in and out by you, because it’s not even touching the cloth mask material, so it has zero chance of being filtered out.

I say again, sars-cov-2 is a gain of function aerosolized bioweapon virus; it was a bat cave virus that was naturally found to spread in the air, and they modified the spike protein to make it easily attach to human ACE-2 receptors in your lungs, amongst other modifications.

This type of mask absolutely does not stop covid, because you can breathe in unfiltered air around the edges of the mask:

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

In a population of 10 people, 1% is nothing.
In case you haven't noticed, the world population is almost 8 billion.
If half of that population gets COVID and only 1% dies, that's 40,000.000 deaths.

You think 40,000,000 deaths is worthy of three laughing emojis?
Damn, the Holocaust must have been fekking HILARIOUS to you.

Rob, if you’re worried about holocaust level pandemics, you need to expose the people still working on gain of function viruses in biolabs. Pandemics like covid-19 will continue to happen with so many evil people figuring out how to make viruses more deadly. Your fellow Americans are not the problem; the people weaponizing viruses are the problem. We wouldn’t have to argue about sars-cov-2, if they didn’t create it in a lab.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The people who test masks for how well they work do tests very similar to blowing vape through a mask. They air-blast particles out of a dummy head’s nose and mouth to see how many of whatever particles they’re using make it through, just fyi. I’ve seen pre-covid studies where they used that method to study if they could stop the spread of flu with masks, where they concluded they couldn’t.

Masks didn’t work for Spanish Flu in 1918.

Once again, people fail to understand the nature of an aerosolized bioweapon virus. Aerosolized viruses can’t be stopped by most masks that people wear, therefore making mask wearing very ineffective. Covid can also get in your eyes via air transmission. Cloth masks work, say when surgeons are performing open-wound surgery, where sneeze or cough particles will be caught by the mask.

Cloth masks don’t work with an aerosolized virus, because the virus floats in the air as a very small particle and doesn’t need moisture to travel. So, any mask that doesn’t have smaller-than-the-virus gaps in between the material threads in the structure of the mask won’t stop the virus. Also, and more importantly, most masks don’t fully cover your mouth and nose, where non-filtered air could enter around the sides and top/bottom gaps between the masks and people’s faces. That means if two people wearing cloth masks are right next to each other, they can both catch and spread the virus to each other by the air that escapes around the mask, because the virus is an aerosol.

Imagine an aerosolized covid virus cloud like a yellow colored nerve gas cloud, like it’s something similar to toxic gases used in WW1 trench warfare, or you could imagine it as hair spray or something. Sars-cov-2 floats in the air as a gas does, so, any direct, unfiltered pathway to your nose or mouth means the virus can be directly breathed in and out by you, because it’s not even touching the cloth mask material, so it has zero chance of being filtered out.

I say again, sars-cov-2 is a gain of function aerosolized bioweapon virus; it was a bat cave virus that was naturally found to spread in the air, and they modified the spike protein to make it easily attach to human ACE-2 receptors in your lungs, amongst other modifications.

This type of mask absolutely does not stop covid, because you can breathe in unfiltered air around the edges of the mask:

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Why do you act as if repetition causes a falsehood to become truth?
Science has long-proved the efficacy of masks, and it was statistically proved yet again with this pandemic.

You can repeat all you want that masks don’t work, just like you can repeat all you want that Biden “stole”the election, or that the vaccine is killing us all.
Repeating it doesn’t make it true.

Show us the scientific test results that prove masks don’t work.

Waiting patiently.

BTW - The virus doesn’t just float freely in and out of us and around in the air. It’s attached to moisture vapor or other particles.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

LOL. Buck accuses you of virtue signaling but also wants to let us all know his great empathy for the human race.

What a clown.

It's virtue signaling if/when "we" do things with the greater good in mind. I do find it odd that "they" think "I" find living with some minor inconveniences virtuous.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

From one planned crisis to another…btw, cold kills far more people than heat does, but you don’t see that narrative pushed all across media. Are they going to use climate change and global warming (during the peaks of summer, I might add) to cover up cardiovascular and other problems caused by the mass covid vaccine campaign?

“The WMO has warned that the current heatwave engulfing the Northern Hemisphere will get worse, putting people at increased risk of heart attacks and other heat-related health problems.”

WMO warns of risk of heart attacks, as heatwave intensifies

The WMO has warned that the current heatwave engulfing the Northern Hemisphere will get worse, putting people at increased risk of heart attacks and other heat-related health problems.

www.newarab.com

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The CURRENT number is over 9/10 of a percent.
And that number will continue to shrink as people continue to get it but become less likely to die due to vaccination, weakened strains, etc.

What you totally discount (for obvious reasons) is the number of deaths versus the number of people infected early on.
Were the disease as innocuous as you'd like to portray, we wouldn't have had hospitals overflowing, morgues overflowing, mass graves being dug, people panicking as loved ones were suddenly dying.

But no. Early in the game, the CFR and IFR were much higher. And not just in underdeveloped countries. In the UK, it was over 20%.
I'll ask you this: If you knew your chance of death was 1:5 from catching a "cold" (as dumb people often describe it), would you consider that cold a non-issue and just catch it or not, and not care about sharing if you DID catch it?

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I didn't realize the UK surpassed Italy early on. It's easy in hindsight to say - see it was nothing to worry about. What if Omicron didn't come around for another year? What if a deadlier variant emerged during that year? Then they'd have another conspiracy, another narrative. My favorite narrative is that the vax caused the mutations in the protein spike, but then they never give the vax credit for the lives it saved and bringing us out of the pandemic for causing the Omicron variant. Odd how that works. Just shows they already reached their conclusions, had their list of usual suspects, etc and no matter the outcome this was the narrative they were going to run with and just tweak it fit whatever ended up happening.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

It's virtue signaling if/when "we" do things with the greater good in mind. I do find it odd that "they" think "I" find living with some minor inconveniences virtuous.

LOL. Buck accuses you of virtue signaling but also wants to let us all know his great empathy for the human race.

What a clown.

I warn people about covid and vaccines and bioweapons and tyrannical world gov measures, etc., out of selfishness, not because I'm virtue signaling about doing a greater good for people. The more I warn people about what has been done and what is coming, the better chances of survival I feel I have. I don't do this to feel good about myself; I do it, because I think it helps my own chances of survival.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Statistics and science say otherwise.
I'll take those over "because Thoxone said so" every day of the week.

It is. Maybe I just have a better memory.
Do you think i am wrong in my references? Go look up the post.

Trolling:

You might want to get specific troll, what mask stops the spread. Also, is that the only mask being worn by everyone wearing mask?