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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Stop pretending like you would even read them; I’m not doing all this prove it bullshit, when it’s a waste of time, because you just won’t even look at it, claim the source is bad, whatever. Masks don’t work preventing aerosolized viral transmission.

The healthcare industry disagrees. Even the crap masks the general public wore stopped ~50% of virus particles. Masks, like the vaccine, aren't a magical full proof shield against viruses.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You desperately want to side track the subject by throwing all this other BS in there. And just like I said, I provided info, you don’t read it or even look at it for the information in it. It’s the same rinse and repeat BS that you do to everyone on here. Anyways, idgaf. You certainly aren’t changing my mind in any direction. Have a nice day, Rob.

You provide a link to an article that "compiled" 170 studies.
2 of the studies were immediately recognizable as flawed. if the first few I see are flawed, that speaks a lot about the data.
Sorry, I'm not going to look through every single study to try to find find one that is legit. If you want to share legit info, I'll gladly look at it. But don't ask me to do the work for you.

So instead of rinsing and repeating, please share your personal studies or valid studies done by others, not lists of flawed "studies" or Op/Ed pieces.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The healthcare industry disagrees. Even the crap masks the general public wore stopped ~50% of virus particles. Masks, like the vaccine, aren't a magical full proof shield against viruses.

There’s different factions within healthcare that have opposing positions; people in the US tend to only hear one side because of gov lead censorship. It all comes down to who or what info you trust. Many scientists spoke up against the sort of one size fits all application of masks and vaccines and lockdowns and all of that, but you didn’t hear them, largely, because they were censored.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

There’s different factions within healthcare that have opposing positions; people in the US tend to only hear one side because of gov lead censorship. It all comes down to who or what info you trust. Many scientists spoke up against the sort of one size fits all application of masks and vaccines and lockdowns and all of that, but you didn’t hear them, largely, because they were censored.

That's expected. You follow the factions that don't feel masks have any value.
Show us the proof that these factions offer to support their opinions.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Biden to Spend $5 Billion on New Coronavirus Vaccine Initiative Supported by Gates, Fauci and Republican Lawmakers

The U.S. government will spend $5 billion on a program to accelerate the development of new coronavirus vaccines and therapeutics, White House officials announced this week. Project NextGen, a successor to Operation Warp Speed, has bipartisan support and will receive funding from the Bill &...

childrenshealthdefense.org

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

There’s different factions within healthcare that have opposing positions; people in the US tend to only hear one side because of gov lead censorship. It all comes down to who or what info you trust. Many scientists spoke up against the sort of one size fits all application of masks and vaccines and lockdowns and all of that, but you didn’t hear them, largely, because they were censored.

Censored??? That's odd I heard them, you heard them, the CDC put the oft cited mask critique on it's website. Are you confusing which "news" outlets censored anti-mask rhetoric with gov't censorship? Or is it the fact that some studies were treated with more credibility than others, which isn't censorship.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Biden to Spend $5 Billion on New Coronavirus Vaccine Initiative Supported by Gates, Fauci and Republican Lawmakers

The U.S. government will spend $5 billion on a program to accelerate the development of new coronavirus vaccines and therapeutics, White House officials announced this week. Project NextGen, a successor to Operation Warp Speed, has bipartisan support and will receive funding from the Bill &...

childrenshealthdefense.org

Boo. That's the problem with gov't programs, they never go away.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Censored??? That's odd I heard them, you heard them, the CDC put the oft cited mask critique on it's website. Are you confusing which "news" outlets censored anti-mask rhetoric with gov't censorship? Or is it the fact that some studies were treated with more credibility than others, which isn't censorship.

No, there was direct censorship, as you can find with things like the Twitter files. There’s gov directives to shut down certain types of speech. A lot of what social media (media in general follows narratives) does is censor on the request of our gov or the WHO, organizations like that. It’s not just anti-maskers who were censored, but a lot of different subjects that the gov wants to control the narrative on. It’s happened over and over again throughout history; I don’t find it surprising, but I find it disgusting (stereotypical of a tyrannical power). People got censored on social media for reporting their own family members died after taking the vaccine, for example. That’s really shitty.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

My great friend just passed away 52. Prob think was heart again, had one after the jab.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No, there was direct censorship, as you can find with things like the Twitter files. There’s gov directives to shut down certain types of speech. A lot of what social media (media in general follows narratives) does is censor on the request of our gov or the WHO, organizations like that. It’s not just anti-maskers who were censored, but a lot of different subjects that the gov wants to control the narrative on. It’s happened over and over again throughout history; I don’t find it surprising, but I find it disgusting (stereotypical of a tyrannical power). People got censored on social media for reporting their own family members died after taking the vaccine, for example. That’s really shitty.

So the government is telling Twitter what to do, and Twitter isn’t firing back with a lawsuit regarding violation of the right to free speech?
You think the lawyers would be all over that like flies on shit.

It’s interesting how, in these times of incredible freedom and ability to disseminate info, people think information is being controlled by our government.

They even use the concept in the most ridiculous way for advertising: “The power company doesn’t want you to know…”

I still see these “this was deleted from the internet” posts, and they post the very thing that was “deleted from the internet”.
Almost comical.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That's expected. You follow the factions that don't feel masks have any value.
Show us the proof that these factions offer to support their opinions.

Masks clearly had value. It's also clear that masks weren't an impenetrable shield.

Maybe it's just me, but I thought most folks understand the geometric growth equation and how a small reduction in growth rate can greatly affect the number infected over time. I thought the CDC & pro-lockdown crowd did a decent job of explaining how lockdown/mask measures were just a tactic to slow Covid until a vax could be made available.

In the end it's an exercise in futility. There is overwhelming evidence the vax is better than catching the real deal. No evidence that the Clintons ran a child *** ring out of a pizza parlor. Tests are racist. The crazy shit even intelligent people will claim with the thinnest of evidence or no evidence at all.

No, there was direct censorship, as you can find with things like the Twitter files. There’s gov directives to shut down certain types of speech. A lot of what social media (media in general follows narratives) does is censor on the request of our gov or the WHO, organizations like that. It’s not just anti-maskers who were censored, but a lot of different subjects that the gov wants to control the narrative on. It’s happened over and over again throughout history; I don’t find it surprising, but I find it disgusting (stereotypical of a tyrannical power). People got censored on social media for reporting their own family members died after taking the vaccine, for example. That’s really shitty.

Censored for reporting a family member died post vax? I know people who've done that with no repercussions. Don't get me wrong, I never supported the "censorship." If there was censorship going on, I'd say it was about as half-a$$ed as alleged Jan 6th insurrection.

Were these folks involved in something beyond reporting a death post vax, like urging people not take the vax, claiming the vax kills, starting rumors of a gov't cover up, etc?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So the government is telling Twitter what to do, and Twitter isn’t firing back with a lawsuit regarding violation of the right to free speech?
You think the lawyers would be all over that like flies on shit.

It’s interesting how, in these times of incredible freedom and ability to disseminate info, people think information is being controlled by our government.

They even use the concept in the most ridiculous way for advertising: “The power company doesn’t want you to know…”

I still see these “this was deleted from the internet” posts, and they post the very thing that was “deleted from the internet”.
Almost comical.

Agreed. It's like the "media won't report this" posts with a link to the media reporting it. There are enough real boogie men out there that we don't have to invent make believe ones.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Hmmmm, they both have mandatory vaccination rules.
The common thread.
A mandatory thing.
And it happens to be the same THING for both the military and for school: MANDATORY VACCINATION.

Try to keep up.

Not all vaccines are required or mandated for schools.

State Vaccine-Specific Requirements

List of current 2025 state vaccine-specific requirements for childcare through college.

www.immunize.org

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Nope. I let the experts be the experts.

I consider a study by Stamford/Yale that says masks are effective to carry more credibility than an Op/Ed that says even though the study proves efficacy, masks are ineffective.

Are you like Thxone, who "questions" things a lot? Do you simply "question", or do you actively pursue the truth?

It's Stanford. A progressively liberal college.
Yale is also a progressively liberal college.

Considering the people trying to convince you that these mask are effective are also liberals... Yeah, I am going to probe a lil deeper and ask what is in it for these people that share common views of the world. You know, like deals with companies that make, sale and supply P.P.E.

People like you Rob wont question anything. Just follow along and do what you are told. Then try to shame others for not suckling at the same teats.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Not all vaccines are required or mandated for schools.

State Vaccine-Specific Requirements

List of current 2025 state vaccine-specific requirements for childcare through college.

www.immunize.org

Nobody said ALL vaccines are mandatory or required.
Why did you come to that assumption?