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[1aespinoza Premium Member]

Nah, I got it. I'd hardly call it "lambasted." Secondly, Trump was making claims about vax being ready in months not a year. He was continually called out for his overly optimistic vaccine release dates. If only they could have got to market in months as Trump suggested, he might still be in office.

Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to.

It was wishful thinking that a vaccine could be thoroughly "vetted" in that time frame. In that instance, I did agree with the Democrats. That is why I say it was "shoved" out the door. It was to allay the fear and panic of the public.
A way to lambast someone is to discredit their actions in public so many times that people start believing him a fool. If it was just a few, it would be a difference of opinion. No, this was EVERY major leftist news outlet in English and Spanish. Even KaKaKamala did a photo op in China to prove that alls' well in the western front; or maybe it was Nancy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Asking A question OR making a statement...

It was a sardonic statement.
Notice the ellipsis at the end of the sentence? Work on your English skills, and you wouldn't have to ask what the sentence means.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. View attachment 46686
It was wishful thinking that a vaccine could be thoroughly "vetted" in that time frame. In that instance, I did agree with the Democrats. That is why I say it was "shoved" out the door. It was to allay the fear and panic of the public.
A way to lambast someone is to discredit their actions in public so many times that people start believing him a fool. If it was just a few, it would be a difference of opinion. No, this was EVERY major leftist news outlet in English and Spanish. Even KaKaKamala did a photo op in China to prove that alls' well in the western front; or maybe it was Nancy.

Is it really lambasting when you are discrediting actions that are wrong?

As for complaining about it being on multiple infotainment outlets? That's just ridiculous unless you think that only ONE infotainment news outlet should run a story.
Our media isn't state run. Each media outlet gets to pick and choose what they want to run, when they want to run it. Should the gov't take over and decide which outlet runs which piece? Maybe one outlet only for Hollywood news, one only for sports, one for blue politics, one for red? And they only run pieces that are preapproved?
No thank you.

I do get a kick out of the "leftist news outlets". How many years have people been griping about the "left leaning media"? I've asked before and I'll ask again: What is preventing the right-wing from creating their own media outlets to match the number of "leftist" media outlets?
And why is it that the right is always griping about "leftist media", yet of the few right-wing outlets, Fox News has been determined to provide the most disinformation?
Legit questions.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. View attachment 46686
It was wishful thinking that a vaccine could be thoroughly "vetted" in that time frame. In that instance, I did agree with the Democrats. That is why I say it was "shoved" out the door. It was to allay the fear and panic of the public.
A way to lambast someone is to discredit their actions in public so many times that people start believing him a fool. If it was just a few, it would be a difference of opinion. No, this was EVERY major leftist news outlet in English and Spanish. Even KaKaKamala did a photo op in China to prove that alls' well in the western front; or maybe it was Nancy.

Trump may have faced some criticism from left leaning media, but they also praised and warp speed and by in large backed the vaccine far more than criticized. Trump was "lambasted" over the mask. I'd say the reporting on warp speed and the vaccine was pretty even handed until ~summer 2021 when it became apparent that we had a good ~1/3rd of the nation that weren't going to vax.

 

[1aespinoza Premium Member]

Is it really lambasting when you are discrediting actions that are wrong?

So we agree that pushing the vaccine so early was wrong.

That's just ridiculous unless you think that only ONE infotainment news outlet should run a story.

How you extrapolate this from my comment is beyond me. I do favor opposing views for everyone should know all sides of a story and arrive at their own conclusion based on their beliefs and/or morals.

What is preventing the right-wing from creating their own media outlets to match the number of "leftist" media outlets?

There are alot of right wing media outlets. The thing is most do not pander to Republican leaders. They tend to lean more centrists so do not quite stand out.

Our media isn't state run. Each media outlet gets to pick and choose what they want to run, when they want to run it.

This would be difficult to prove to an ousider. I know you see how blatantly biased the media is. "Biden dominates Putin because Putin looked away first!" Ashley:"I would take showers with daddy." Media: crickets.

Fox News has been determined to provide the most disinformation?

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[1aespinoza Premium Member]

but they also praised and warp speed and by in large backed the vaccine far more than criticized

I noticed this praise when the Democrats "put out" the vaccine in record time.

Trump was "lambasted" over the mask.

This I did not know. I thought Dems were in favor of the mask mandates.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So we agree that pushing the vaccine so early was wrong.
No. I am saying that Trump was wrong when he was promising 100 Million vaccines by year's end when he had nothing to support such a claim. Just like when he promised COVID would disappear by Easter 2020 "like a miracle". Just like when we found out that he was lying about the severity of the issue.
As POTUS, you shouldn't just make shit up to make yourself seem the hero. You do that and everyone knows you are wrong, you're gonna' get slapped for it. Don't like it? Then STFU until you DO know some facts. Management 101

How you extrapolate this from my comment is beyond me. I do favor opposing views for everyone should know all sides of a story and arrive at their own conclusion based on their beliefs and/or morals.
Your words: "If it was just a few, it would be a difference of opinion. No, this was EVERY major leftist news outlet in English and Spanish." This sure reads as expression of concern or dislike that the finger pointing at him and his statements was done on multiple outlets, (in multiple LANGUAGES even!). If this was not a concern, why bring it up? An infotainment outlet can provide their own spin or focus as they wish. They are not state-run. If you look to any of them for unbiased or just pure reporting, good luck. That's a fool's folly.

There are alot of right wing media outlets. The thing is most do not pander to Republican leaders. They tend to lean more centrists so do not quite stand out.
The top 4 right-wing media outlets are (in order): Fox News; Newsmax; Breitbart; Gateway Pundit. Fox is KNOWN for their partisan reporting going back to at least Bush admin.
Newsmax has been deemed as "Right" in a blind bias survey and are known to being right to far-right. They are gaining viewership from Trump supporters dropping Fox b/c Fox predicted Biden would win AZ when only 73% of the votes were in.
Breitbart is known as a FAR-right based on their pushing right-wing propaganda and conspiracy theories.
The Gateway Pundit is similar to Breitbart with the far-right false reporting, pushing conspiracy theory and lies. Examples are plentiful.
Those are the top 4 outlets by viewership. Can you explain why you thing they are more centrist than right-biased?


This would be difficult to prove to an outsider. I know you see how blatantly biased the media is. "Biden dominates Putin because Putin looked away first!" Ashley:"I would take showers with daddy." Media: crickets.
Fox is considered the worst of offenders when it comes to pushing false information, and they are also the #1 outlet in viewership for right-leaning infotainment. Since you are claiming to be an "insider", you surely should have some data to explain why that is. You should also have no trouble explaining why the right is always griping about the "left-leaning mainstream media" being culpable for so many problems, when a right-wing network is rated the most dishonest of all of them, and why it seems the right can't have their OWN outlets to push their own agenda.
I promise not to do any stock trades with your insider info.
And I really have no idea what your quotes mean.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

It was a sardonic statement.
Notice the ellipsis at the end of the sentence? Work on your English skills, and you wouldn't have to ask what the sentence means.

Wow.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I noticed this praise when the Democrats "put out" the vaccine in record time.

This I did not know. I thought Dems were in favor of the mask mandates.

I have no idea what your talking about. Dems didn't "put out" the vaccine.

Yes dems were in favor of mask mandates and they lambasted Trump for being anti-mask.

 

[1aespinoza Premium Member]

I have no idea what your talking about. Dems didn't "put out" the vaccine.

You missed the press breifing where Biden praised his team for expediting vaccine roll out. It was so long ago that I cannot recall the exact words. Unless he was lying, but I doubt it.

Yes dems were in favor of mask mandates and they lambasted Trump for being anti-mask

Got it.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You missed the press breifing where Biden praised his team for expediting vaccine roll out. It was so long ago that I cannot recall the exact words. Unless he was lying, but I doubt it.

Got it.

Was it this one?

 

[1aespinoza Premium Member]

was promising 100 Million vaccines by year's end when he had nothing to support such a claim. Just like when he promised COVID would disappear by Easter 2020 "like a miracle

I concur 100%. No vaccine should have been sent out, much less mandated.

As POTUS, you shouldn't just make shit up to make yourself seem the hero. You do that and everyone knows you are wrong, you're gonna' get slapped for it. Don't like it? Then STFU until you DO know some facts. Management 101

In this too I agree, but I do understand why he did it. The mounting pressure to provide relief, hope. Trump usually responds with the information given to him so I assume that is what he was promised.

Your words: "If it was just a few, it would be a difference of opinion. No, this was EVERY major leftist news outlet in English and Spanish."

Ah I see. What I meant there is that every left news outlet presented their unbiased opinion verbatim. Everyone knows if you copy homework you can only do 70% of it. I bet you could synchronize and overlap those newscasts and get a chanting effect.

Can you explain why you thing they ar

Trump would get criticized when he would go on a rant. Which was kind of often.

And I really have no idea what your quotes mean

The former is a headline and the latter is an excerpt from Ashely Biden's diary. I do not know how they were able to get their hands on the diary, it does sound far fetched so I take it with a grain of salt.

Was it this one?

View attachment 46692

No, it was a presser on CNN I saw as I was readying for work.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Ironically, I sat an listened to and sided with conservatives who have been for decades been b!tching that it takes too long to get drugs thru the approval process, then we finally fast track something (that needs to be fast tracked) and they're raising a stink about that.

And they give their cult leader props for the vaccination that they won't get that he fast tracked (warp speed) that he was first in line to get. Please explain that thinking?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You missed the press breifing where Biden praised his team for expediting vaccine roll out. It was so long ago that I cannot recall the exact words. Unless he was lying, but I doubt it.

As I recall everybody got credit, Trump, Fauci, FDA, Pfizer, etc.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

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