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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Who was the guy who claimed EVs would not be able to be charged without diesel that runs the charging stations? Here, I'll help jog your vodka-addled memory a bit:

Tell us again why there will be no electrical charging stations without diesel, since petroleum only accounts for 1/2% of electricity production. You failed to explain the last time I asked.

Also. tell us how 12% of electricity coming from renewable sources is inconsequential, when you think the 1/2% that come from diesel will shit down the grid if it's lost.

Man your pattern of thinking is in a line isn't it. If there is no diesel to fuel the trucks that deliver fuel to the power plants to power the grid... how are you going to power the charging stations?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Who was the guy who claimed EVs would not be able to be charged without diesel that runs the charging stations? Here, I'll help jog your vodka-addled memory a bit:

Tell us again why there will be no electrical charging stations without diesel, since petroleum only accounts for 1/2% of electricity production. You failed to explain the last time I asked.

Also. tell us how 12% of electricity coming from renewable sources is inconsequential, when you think the 1/2% that come from diesel will shit down the grid if it's lost.

Maybe you are right... perhaps 11-12% renewable energy is more than enough for my conservative brain to comprehend. I am sure it is enough to power this country, all of it's infrastructure and all of us citizens. LET'S GO GREEN!!!

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Maybe you are right... perhaps 11-12% renewable energy is more than enough for my conservative brain to comprehend. I am sure it is enough to power this country, all of it's infrastructure and all of us citizens. LET'S GO GREEN!!!

I didn't say it was enough, but you are trying to paint it as an inconsequential number. And, it;s actually more than 12%:

Wind	380	9.2%
Hydropower	260	6.3%
Solar (total)	115	2.8%

It's almost 1/5 of the production of electricity.

If 12% is nothing, then immediately reduce your car's gas consumption by 12%. Immediately reduce your electric use by 12%.
Then compare that to a 1/2% reduction.

Petroleum liquids

11

0.3%

I know math isn't your strong suit, but use these examples:
100 gallons of gas used a week would drop to 88 gallons (250 miles less) OR to 99.5 gallons (10 miles less).
Running your refrigerator 100 hours a week would drop to 88 hours (12 extra hours of defrost) or 99.5 hours (30 minutes of extra defrost).
Now try 20%:
100 gallons drops to 80. 400 miles less driving.
100 hours of refrigeration becomes 80. 20 extra hours of defrost.
Inconsequential?

Tell us again how 18% of renewable energy means nothing to the grid, but a loss of .5% would cripple it.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I didn't say it was enough, but you are trying to paint it as an inconsequential number. And, it;s actually more than 12%:

Wind	380	9.2%
Hydropower	260	6.3%
Solar (total)	115	2.8%

It's almost 1/5 of the production of electricity.

If 12% is nothing, then immediately reduce your car's gas consumption by 12%. Immediately reduce your electric use by 12%.
Then compare that to a 1/2% reduction.

Petroleum liquids

11

0.3%

I know math isn't your strong suit, but use these examples:
100 gallons of gas used a week would drop to 88 gallons (250 miles less) OR to 99.5 gallons (10 miles less).
Running your refrigerator 100 hours a week would drop to 88 hours (12 extra hours of defrost) or 99.5 hours (30 minutes of extra defrost).
Now try 20%:
100 gallons drops to 80. 400 miles less driving.
100 hours of refrigeration becomes 80. 20 extra hours of defrost.
Inconsequential?

Tell us again how 12% of renewable energy means nothing to the grid, but a loss of .5% would cripple it.

You are being dramatic again Rob. I am not trying to paint anything less than what it is. I am not so hung up, like you are, on being right and proving people wrong that I can't accept the FACTS presented to me by someone who didn't vote for Joe. If you take away 88% of our energy, this country will stop. If you take away diesel, which is what is used most to transports goods, this country will stop. You don't have to debate it Rob, just accept it.

My math is fine. When I took my SAT back in the day I did pretty damn good... in math too. Your jabs are weak Rob, like your ejaculate.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You are being dramatic again Rob. I am not trying to paint anything less than what it is. I am not so hung up, like you are, on being right and proving people wrong that I can't accept the FACTS presented to me by someone who didn't vote for Joe. If you take away 88% of our energy, this country will stop. If you take away diesel, which is what is used most to transports goods, this country will stop. You don't have to debate it Rob, just accept it.

My math is fine. When I took my SAT back in the day I did pretty damn good... in math too. Your jabs are weak Rob, like your ejaculate.

Let's back up a step.
Show us your info that says diesel provides 88% of the power for this country.
We already know liquid petroleum only accounts for 0.3% of electricity production. That's ONE THIRD of a percent, or OVER SIXTY TIME LESS than wind/solar/hydro.

Tell us how diesel makes up for 88% of energy for all other forms of power.
Tell us how there is no electricity at EV charging stations (or in the grid in general) without diesel.

Present these "facts" that you like to chatter on about but never seem to be able to find.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Let's back up a step.
Show us your info that says diesel provides 88% of the power for this country.
We already know liquid petroleum only accounts for 0.3% of electricity production.

Tell us how diesel makes up for 88% of energy for all other forms of power.
Tell us how there is no electricity at EV charging stations (or in the grid in general) without diesel.

I didn't say Diesel makes up 88% of energy. I said Fossil Fuels. You really gotta start reading and stop leading with your emotions.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

See, you refuse to read post. What are the majority of charging stations powered by in the US?
When did I claim EV was not feasible and show the context.

I love how you ask so many questions then at the end, like an arrogant dick sucker, you claim I destroyed my own argument. Really, don't I have to respond for it to be an argument or will you continue to respond for me?

You know, you are dramatic like a woman.

Tons of them are solar powered. Otherwise they're on the grid which isn't dependent on diesel, so EVs are good to go.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Show me proof Rob that right now if diesel was no more that we have enough renewables to cover the gap and keep America going even up to the level we are at right now. Do we have enough renewables in place Rob.

All that talk and you destroy your own argument with your liberal arrogance and tiny penis.

This one of those false arguments. Diesel isn't going away anytime soon. It's like me saying "show me proof that diesel can cover the gap if renewables were gone tomorrow."

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Tons of them are solar powered. Otherwise they're on the grid which isn't dependent on diesel, so EVs are good to go.

The majority are fed power via fossil fuels. Some are solar.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

This one of those false arguments. Diesel isn't going away anytime soon. It's like me saying "show me proof that diesel can cover the gap if renewables were gone tomorrow."

Like every year since the beginning of fossil fuels?

So how long before Rob and yourself will get the notion of Diesel making Electricity out of your heads or the misconception that I even said that it does?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Man your pattern of thinking is in a line isn't it. If there is no diesel to fuel the trucks that deliver fuel to the power plants to power the grid... how are you going to power the charging stations?

Natural gas is piped to power stations. Again this is an inconsequential question since diesel isn't going away.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The majority are fed power via fossil fuels. Some are solar.

Tell us about the all of the diesel among the fossil fuels used to generate electricity.
Specifically, what percentage of the fossil fuels used are liquid petroleum, and what is the overall percentage contribution of liquid petroleum to the electrical grid?
What percentage of electricity production is derived from fossil fuels?

I am interested in your 88% number.
Are you saying that 88% of all of our energy comes from fossil fuels?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Natural gas is piped to power stations. Again this is an inconsequential question since diesel isn't going away.

I guess we will just wait and see. I am more interested in the upcoming votes.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Tell us about the all of the diesel among the fossil fuels used to generate electricity.
Specifically, what percentage of the fossil fuels used are liquid petroleum, and what is the overall percentage contribution of liquid petroleum to the electrical grid?
What percentage of electricity production is derived from fossil fuels?

I am interested in your 88% number.
Are you saying that 88% of all of our energy comes from fossil fuels?

How about you tell us Rob. You are the one who wants to keep saying that. Tell us about all the electricity and how diesel makes it. Or doesn't. Either way numb nuts, I didn't say diesel makes electricity. Either read what I post or don't respond to it.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Like every year since the beginning of fossil fuels?

So how long before Rob and yourself will get the notion of Diesel making Electricity out of your heads or the misconception that I even said that it does?

You're the one who concocted some crazy scenario where Biden has somehow drained the US of all diesel resulting in a near complete economic shut down. I'm just pointing out if your crazy scenario happens it will be EV that restarts the economy, because the grid can operate without diesel. It will be an EV semi dropping off diesel to the truck stop. Maybe in your scenario Sleepy Joe outlaws diesel?